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Shocking footage of teen stabbed for his Bike

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    I once saw a black African get mugged by blacks of a west Indian background outside the university of the Southbank, there is tension with Africans. This is unusual.

    So, "blacks don't rob blacks" except for the one time the "cruasder" was fortunate enough to witness and actually verify the backgrounds of all involved. It's a shame that people will be taken in by this nonsense.

    RIP to the young lad. Terrible stuff. A similar thing happened across the road from the college I was in in London, the victim survived, fortunately. Glad to be out the place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭circadian


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Try reversing the races in this terrible event and then imagine both the media coverage and worldwide "outrage" in response. You think racial motivation would be considered then? So...yeah, it works both ways.

    I think you missed the point. There is no evidence that this was a black gang. One member is suspected as black one as white and another uncertain race.

    The poster was basically saying because the victim was white then the gang must be black.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Cheerios


    I hope they nail the bastards on a hate crime too. This is almost certainly racially motivated.

    Are you being serious?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭HoratiJoe


    Heartbreaking that is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    circadian wrote: »
    I think you missed the point. There is no evidence that this was a black gang. One member is suspected as black one as white and another uncertain race.

    The poster was basically saying because the victim was white then the gang must be black.

    This was a random attack, they didn't care who was riding those bikes, could even have been women it wouldn't have mattered they were going to take them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭sadie06


    I don't think I've ever come across such a random and careless act of violence. That poor family.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Wide Load


    It seems some people on here are trying their hardest to make this out to be race related when it's not. They would have robbed whoever they came across black, white, asian, whatever. Total scum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭TommyOM


    You have to laugh at the logic of the boards.ie resident racists. A group of three - including one who is white - attack three people, rob their bikes and cycle off and according to our resident dummies this was a crime motivated by race.

    I think anyone with half a braincell can see that they were evidently motivated with robbing the bikes. The fact that one of the attackers is white just makes it even more ridiculous.

    RIP to the victim, I think its disgusting that the boards.ie resident racists have tried to use his death to push their disgusting agenda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    Ofc, had to be a gang of blacks... <_<;
    No, those weren't chavs. The stereotype of the Chav ( Council Housed And Violent ) is White Anglo Saxon male.

    Police have given the description of the suspects as " Male Youths ".

    However, on close inspection of the footage, they do appear to be Afro Carribean / British Blacks / Males of the BAME community.

    According to the Londons Evening Standard, one is thought to be WHITE, the second black, third unknown.

    Either way, knife laws neee to be toughened up again, with stricter penalties. Following the murder of Stephen Lawerence things seemed to improve, but recently thre just seems to be a downward spiral of violence and brutality. I know its only a minority, but its a bad reflection on a City that I was brought up in, and love so much.

    :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭circadian


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    This was a random attack, they didn't care who was riding those bikes, could even have been women it wouldn't have mattered they were going to take them

    My point exactly.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    I believe the British word is "chavs". It looks in the video like he does not even notice he has been stabbed. I have heard that this might be actually common reaction for stab victims - that sometimes it's not noticed straight away.

    It's true. Knew a guy who got into an altercation in Dalston in London. Blows were traded and took a punch or what he thought was a punch to the lower back. He got away but a while later noticed the blood on the back of his jeans. He'd been stabbed. Missed his liver by an inch. Could have been fatal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    In fairness its Irelands not too distant future.....theres so many scumbags walking around nowadays.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    TommyOM wrote: »
    You have to laugh at the logic of the boards.ie resident racists. A group of three - including one who is white - attack three people, rob their bikes and cycle off and according to our resident dummies this was a crime motivated by race.

    I think anyone with half a braincell can see that they were evidently motivated with robbing the bikes. The fact that one of the attackers is white just makes it even more ridiculous.

    RIP to the victim, I think its disgusting that the boards.ie resident racists have tried to use his death to push their disgusting agenda.

    Early reports described the attack as a gang of black youths stabbing a white youth to death. Going by this, is was reasonable to suggest there may have been a racial angle. So not quite racist, as you keep repeating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Early reports described the attack as a gang of black youths stabbing a white youth to death. Going by this, is was reasonable to suggest there may have been a racial angle. So not quite racist, as you keep repeating.

    Even if they were all black it still wouldn't be race related. They didn't have time to see who was coming down the road, they just saw people riding bikes.
    The black gangs are not racist, they rob/stab all colours/sex


  • Registered Users Posts: 315 ✭✭TommyOM


    Early reports described the attack as a gang of black youths stabbing a white youth to death. Going by this, is was reasonable to suggest there may have been a racial angle. So not quite racist, as you keep repeating.

    Not really, even if they were all black (which they were not) they were in a predominately white neighbourhood (as our resident racists have already pointed out) and they didn't attack any of the dozens of white people walking around.

    So they must have attacked that particular group for another reason. That group was singled out for their violence for some unknown reason.

    Oh yeah, because they wanted to rob their bikes. It's pretty simple stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,215 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    Fcukers should be strung up , im just glad my kids grow up where they do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Wide Load


    Early reports described the attack as a gang of black youths stabbing a white youth to death. Going by this, is was reasonable to suggest there may have been a racial angle. So not quite racist, as you keep repeating.

    Black people commit crime on white people, white people commit crime on black people. In almost every case it's not because of the colour of the other persons skin, it's because they wanted to commit a crime and they were the first people to bump into them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    It's frightening how calmly they just walk away with the bikes after stabbing him. Why the **** do you stab someone to steal their bike. Absolute gob****es, some people need to be shipped off to a secluded island for being a complete waste of space.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Even if they were all black it still wouldn't be race related. They didn't have time to see who was coming down the road, they just saw people riding bikes.
    The black gangs are not racist, they rob/stab all colours/sex

    Not necessarily, we have no idea what the motives were with this gang. It depends on the gang I guess. Some are out and out opportunists, some are definitely racially motivated in their choice of victims.
    Although I am happy to clarify that my original opinion was based on an early news report that has since been deleted. So I will retract my opinion that the attack was race related. (Later developments will tell us more on the motives of the group).
    TommyOM wrote: »
    Not really, even if they were all black (which they were not) they were in a predominately white neighbourhood (as our resident racists have already pointed out) and they didn't attack any of the dozens of white people walking around.

    So they must have attacked that particular group for another reason. That group was singled out for their violence for some unknown reason.

    Oh yeah, because they wanted to rob their bikes. It's pretty simple stuff.

    I was the one who pointed out that Islington is a predominantly white (and rich) neighbourhood, and I would appreciate if you didn't call me a racist for pointing out that fact. I think you might be trolling here tbh. See above for my revised opinion based on what we now know to be the facts so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Because blacks in London only rob whites, never their own.

    You're such a f*cking liar. You know nothing about this city.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69





    I was the one who pointed out that Islington is a predominantly white (and rich) neighbourhood, and I would appreciate if you didn't call me a racist for pointing out that fact. I think you might be trolling here tbh. See above for my revised opinion based on what we now know to be the facts so far.

    Islington is a borough, not just a neighbourhood. The young lad was killed on Cally Road which is a fairly multicultural place. Like your friend above, you're talking through your hoop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Islington is a borough, not just a neighbourhood. The young lad was killed on Cally Road which is a fairly multicultural place. Like your friend above, you're talking through your hoop.

    Ok, we get it. You really, really, really have a hard on for London. Is this you by any chance?

    http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/chris-crocker.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Black gang members, in a predominantly white part of London (Islington) just happen to target a white youth on a bike, and stab him to death. That is just my opinion of course. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

    So based on sweet fuck all then. Grand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Ok, we get it. You really, really, really have a hard on for London. Is this you by any chance?


    Or maybe he lives there.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    If hes white, it would be unusual, you cant tell from the video. Its more likely hes mixed race, but some whites do go "native"in black neighborhoods.

    Either way they will be caught.

    This does not negate the point that blacks dont rob blacks in London.
    Because blacks in London only rob whites, never their own.



    Mod

    Banned.

    Please don't reply to this poster from here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    Nodin wrote: »
    So based on sweet fuck all then. Grand.

    Try reading all my posts for context.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Try reading all my posts for context.

    I did. They robbed them to get the bikes. One of them is clearly some form of psycho who will doubtless attack again given the chance. That's what happened, not a race attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    Nodin wrote: »
    I did. They robbed them to get the bikes. One of them is clearly some form of psycho who will doubtless attack again given the chance. That's what happened, not a race attack.

    You obviously didn't read them. See post 70 then come back to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Nodin wrote: »
    I did. They robbed them to get the bikes. One of them is clearly some form of psycho who will doubtless attack again given the chance. That's what happened, not a race attack.


    Aren't we so lucky to have so many experts on the inner workings and motivations of these "yoofs". Can't imagine how they are so sure they just know what their intentions were/are...:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    You obviously didn't read them. See post 70 then come back to me.

    Sorry I didn't see the retraction. Apologies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    For fck sake THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRIME


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    Stabbings in urban UK are getting more common. There's a strange knife culture there that I've (thankfully) yet to see in Ireland. A mate was working as a supply teacher in London a couple of years ago and it was a particularly rough school. She hated working there for ages, but finally cracked and booked a flight home when a kid (all of 14) brought a knife to school.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    Nodin wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't see the retraction. Apologies.

    No problem. My original opinion was way off the mark and based on a suspect news article.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Halloween Jack


    Going from
    I hope they nail the bastards on a hate crime too. This is almost certainly racially motivated.

    To 'we have no idea of motive' just because it's apparent that one of the attackers could well be white is a fairly hilarious back-track


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Early reports described the attack as a gang of black youths stabbing a white youth to death. Going by this, is was reasonable to suggest there may have been a racial angle. So not quite racist, as you keep repeating.

    How early were these early reports?

    I read this morning that one was thought to be white.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Boring username


    Going from



    To 'we have no idea of motive' just because it's apparent that one of the attackers could well be white is a fairly hilarious back-track

    I will ask you to read all my posts for the full picture, thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    He's withdrawn his statement lads, its more than a great many others would do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    humanji wrote: »
    MOD: Don't start.

    *Presses the Start button*


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    R.I.P to the poor lad, bad way to go.

    We can't really say whether it was just theft related and/or race related can we ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,822 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    inforfun wrote: »
    If you are willing to kill someone for a ****ing bicycle, you should never see the outside of a prison again.

    Send him over to the middle east and let ISIS deal with him.

    See what kind of a big man he is then.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    For fck sake THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRIME

    LOL aren't you a naive soul.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    LOL aren't you a naive soul.


    Care to explain?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Nodin wrote: »
    Care to explain?

    You and the other poster are the ones making such 100% certain claims that race had nothing to do with the motivation of this crime, ought not you be the ones to "explain" how it is you just know this to be true?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Do you think that if he wasn't skinny white kid he wouldn't have been attacked ?

    do you think a Black or Asian kid is as likely to be the victim of a crime in that or any part of london ?

    If you do then might be you dont know london as well as you might think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Yet again, for the slower ones out there, one of the killers was WHITE. Likewise if you think that black and Asian kids don't become the victim of violent crime you're codding yourselves. It's sad to say, but young black men and boys are forever getting injured and killed in London. Some of it is inter-gang stuff, and some of it is just lads being in the wrong place at the wrong time; being a victim of a random row at a party, mistaken identity or just being targeted for being in the wrong postcode.

    Have a look at articles about young people getting stabbed and shot in London and they're probably going to be black, Asian or Turkish.

    So please, spare us the b*llocks about black people not being the victim of crime please.

    I mean for f*ck's sake, the term "black on black" crime exists for a reason.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    Do you think that if he wasn't skinny white kid he wouldn't have been attacked ?

    do you think a Black or Asian kid is as likely to be the victim of a crime in that or any part of london ?

    If you do then might be you dont know london as well as you might think

    I was one of 2 white people in my class in a south London college and at least a quarter of the boys in the class had been robbed at some stage of their lives. My fiance is black and has been robbed, in Lambeth no less. I have no idea why anyone on here would think that being black is effectively robbery immunity in London, but it's not reality. Sure the "cruasder" himself even wtnessed a black on black robbery!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    You and the other poster are the ones making such 100% certain claims that race had nothing to do with the motivation of this crime, ought not you be the ones to "explain" how it is you just know this to be true?


    There's no evidence, white person was involved, I don't have a racist agenda nor do I intend to use this thread as a platform for such views, bumped now and again to keep it going...that kind of thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I cannot believe it. The poor kid was stabbed for just minding his own business for being only on his bike. wtf?. I hope the scum that killed him will get their key thrown away for good behind bars.

    R.I.P Alan and sincere condolences to his family.


  • Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭LincolnsBeard


    For fck sake THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRIME

    The point I think a lot of people are trying to make is that this gang "culture" that now exists in London tends to have been created in "multicultural" environments. You see similar behaviour and types of crimes across anywhere in Europe where you get high levels of multiculturalism. I feel like the criminals in those areas tend to feel even less remorseful about their actions and are much more vicious. This is perhaps because they feel less connected to the societies in which they live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin



    The point I think a lot of people are trying to make is that this gang
    "culture" that now exists in London tends to have been created in
    "multicultural" environments. You see similar behaviour and types of crimes
    across anywhere in Europe where you get high levels of multiculturalism.

    Have you a few examples of where this happens elsewhere?


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