Shocking footage of teen stabbed for his Bike

rob316

Couldn't see this posted.

Footage released of a 15 year old boy stabbed for his bike in London. Pretty shocking stuff

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11446164/Alan-Cartwright-stabbing-CCTV-shows-moment-teen-knifed-on-bike-in-Islington.html

Absolute scum, hope they catch them. Taking someone's life for a bike.

**Sorry should of state he cycled on down the road, collapsed and died due to single stab wound**

KungPao

****ing little pricks. Hope they are caught soon.

BeerWolf

Ofc, had to be a gang of blacks... <_<;

humanji

BeerWolf wrote: »

Ofc, had to be a gang of blacks... <_<;

MOD: Don't start.

nokia69

scumbags

Kermit.de.frog

nokia69 wrote: »

scumbags

I believe the British word is "chavs". It looks in the video like he does not even notice he has been stabbed. I have heard that this might be actually common reaction for stab victims - that sometimes it's not noticed straight away.

keanosbeard

No, those weren't chavs. The stereotype of the Chav ( Council Housed And Violent ) is White Anglo Saxon male.

Police have given the description of the suspects as " Male Youths ".

However, on close inspection of the footage, they do appear to be Afro Carribean / British Blacks / Males of the BAME community.

BMJD

keanosbeard wrote: »

No, those weren't chavs. The stereotype of the Chav ( Council Housed And Violent ) is White Anglo Saxon male.

Police have given the description of the suspects as " Male Youths ".

However, on close inspection of the footage, they do appear to be Afro Carribean / British Blacks / Males of the BAME community.

Your accuracy is highly offensive!

mikom

keanosbeard wrote: »

However, on close inspection of the footage, they do appear to be Afro Carribean / British Blacks / Males of the BAME community.

Must be why the police have claimed the stabber is a white male................................

Giggsy11

And I thought only India was unsafe..

mikom

mikom wrote: »

Must be why the police have claimed the stabber is a white male................................

Nee-naw, the PC Brigade is here. :pac:

NachoBusiness

He'll be caught. Can't keep a secret amongst a group of kids that age. Not a chance.

Family appeal earlier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD3vdE7z7OE

Pudders

I live about 300 yards from where this happened. I passed by the flowers on Sunday without realising what had happened.

The amount of teenagers stabbed to death around here is shocking. I can think of at least 6 in the last 2/3 years within a few miles of here.

Automatic jail for people carrying knives I believe is the only solution.

keanosbeard

mikom wrote: »

Must be why the police have claimed the stabber is a white male................................

Hi,

I was addressing the original " Chav " comment. And viewed the footage. The suspects are not dressed, do not appear to be " Chavs ". They appear to be urban youths.

The police didn't say the stabber " is " white.

Their appeal said " thought " to be white. In the video, the colour of the victim was clear, the assailants less so.

http://content.met.police.uk/Appeal/CCTV-released-in-appeal-over-Alan-Cartwrights-murder-in-Islington/1400030223957/1257246745782

‘Suspect one’ is described as a male youth of slim build. He is believed to have been wearing a grey or dark coloured hooded top and dark bottom's which could have had a keychain hanging from the rear pocket. He was wearing some sort of face covering but is thought to be white.

‘Suspect two’ is described as a male youth who was slim to medium build. He was wearing a black sleeveless jacket with a black hooded top underneath. He was wearing a shoulder bag across his body. He was also wearing a type of face covering but is thought to be black.

‘Suspect three’ is a male youth of medium build. He was wearing a thee-quarter length coat with a hood, which appeared to have some sort of trim around it. He is wearing a dark top with a multi-coloured motif on the chest. He is wearing lighter coloured bottoms and dark shoes. He is also covering his face. There is no information as to his ethnicity.

keanosbeard

NachoBusiness wrote: »

He'll be caught. Can't keep a secret amongst a group of kids that age. Not a chance.

Family appeal earlier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD3vdE7z7OE

In certain communities in London, you might be surprised. Open secrets, but never shared with what are called in parts of London " Da Feds ".

MRnotlob606

Should be hanged.

Nodin

keanosbeard wrote: »

Hi,

I was addressing the original " Chav " comment. And viewed the footage. The suspects are not dressed, do not appear to be " Chavs ". They appear to be urban youths.

.

A Chav isn't an urban youth? Do they flock at a different time of year or something?

mikom

keanosbeard wrote: »

The police didn't say the stabber " is " white.

Their appeal said " thought " to be white. In the video, the colour of the victim was clear, the assailants less so.

The police said "thought to be white"

You said "they do appear to be Afro Carribean / British Blacks / Males of the BAME community".

Who has a better chance of being correct?

Boring username

I hope they nail the bastards on a hate crime too. This is almost certainly racially motivated.

keanosbeard

I don't like the word Chav. It is derogatory and horrible term. But in answer to the pedantic ones question, regarding " flocking ";

A " Chav " is likely to be to be found in a small English " New Town " with predominance of 1950s, 60s, 70s post war housing estates, with the estates built primary to house folk relocated from the cities. " Chav's " would be found in as places like Dartford, Chatham, Hemel Hempsted, Stevenage, Dunstable, Corby, Milton Keynes.

An " Urban Youth " is likely to be found in denser inner city environment of a major city, such as London, in an area such as Hackney, Walthamstow, Euston, Paddington.

mikom

keanosbeard wrote: »

I don't like the word Chav. It is derogatory. But in answer to the pedantic ones question;

A " Chav " is likely to be found flocking to be found in a small English town outside a major city, with predominance of 1950s, 60s, 70s housing estates, such as places like Dartford, Chatham, Hemel Hempsted, Stevenage, Dunstable, Corby.

An " Urban Youth " is likely to be found in denser inner city enviorment of a major city, such as London, in an area such as Hackney, Walthamstow, Euston, Paddington.

What about "Musical youth"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFtLONl4cNc

Nodin

Boring username wrote: »

I hope they nail the bastards on a hate crime too. This is almost certainly racially motivated.

Based on.......?

Menas

Nodin wrote: »

Based on.......?

Based on the colour of the victims bikes. Cant see any other grounds to be honest.

Boring username

Nodin wrote: »

Based on.......?

Black gang members, in a predominantly white part of London (Islington) just happen to target a white youth on a bike, and stab him to death. That is just my opinion of course. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

Sir Gallagher

It's pathetic when people from Ireland use crimes perpetrated in different countries to feed their ignorance and racism towards black people. Unsettling number of them on this forum. Was After Hours always full of wannabe ultra right/left-wing types or has it only came about in the past few years?

Boring username

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

It's pathetic when people from Ireland use crimes perpetrated in different countries to feed their ignorance and racism towards black people. Unsettling number of them on this forum. Was After Hours always full of wannabe ultra right/left-wing types or has it only came about in the past few years?

So being disgusted by gang related murder is now racism?

Undercover Brother

I knew this lad. Used to work in his school. Those animals will be found eventually and when they are the key should be thrown away. And to those posters who say this was racially motivated, I don't think I've ever heard anything as stupid in my life. How could you possibly come to that conclusion?

cruasder777

rob316 wrote: »

Couldn't see this posted.

Footage released of a 15 year old boy stabbed for his bike in London. Pretty shocking stuff

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11446164/Alan-Cartwright-stabbing-CCTV-shows-moment-teen-knifed-on-bike-in-Islington.html

Absolute scum, hope they catch them. Taking someone's life for a bike.

**Sorry should of state he cycled on down the road, collapsed and died due to single stab wound**

He had no chance.

Meanwhile the media concentrate on Chelsea fans singing racist songs :rolleyes:

Obviously this is the priority.

cruasder777

Undercover Brother wrote: »

I knew this lad. Used to work in his school. Those animals will be found eventually and when they are the key should be thrown away. And to those posters who say this was racially motivated, I don't think I've ever heard anything as stupid in my life. How could you possibly come to that conclusion?

Because blacks in London only rob whites, never their own.

circadian

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

It's pathetic when people from Ireland use crimes perpetrated in different countries to feed their ignorance and racism towards black people. Unsettling number of them on this forum. Was After Hours always full of wannabe ultra right/left-wing types or has it only came about in the past few years?

I get the feeling it started as faux outrage to get a reaction, for most anyway. Maybe now they're starting to believe the drivel they post.

Who knows?

Amazingfun

RIP Alan Cartwright.......you won't be forgotten.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2977106/Caught-CCTV-Horrifying-moment-teenager-fatally-stabbed-chest-cycled-friends-London-street.html

Boring username

Boring username wrote: »

Black gang members, in a predominantly white part of London (Islington) just happen to target a white youth on a bike, and stab him to death. That is just my opinion of course. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

Strange then that the police think that one of the black gang members was actually white.

inforfun

If you are willing to kill someone for a ****ing bicycle, you should never see the outside of a prison again.

cruasder777

Deleted User wrote: »

Strange then that the police think that one of the black gang members was actually white.

Highly unlikely, possibly mixed race.

The Police have an agenda.

circadian

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Strange then that the police think that one of the black gang members was actually white.

I don't mean to make light of the situation but the continual ignoring of the reports that one of the gang was white and another of unidentified race makes me think some posters see him as a bit of a J-Roc.



Edit:my point being guilty by association or as someone mentioned above, mixed race.

I despair. It's about a murder, race doesn't come into it.

mikom

cruasder777 wrote: »

Highly unlikely, possibly mixed race.

lol.

Gay as well probably........ or at least bi........

Boring username

Deleted User wrote: »

Strange then that the police think that one of the black gang members was actually white.

The ITV reports earlier described the suspects as a 'black gang'. The link is not working now. Although I see in the Mail the police have indeed described one of the suspects as white.

cruasder777

mikom wrote: »

lol.

Gay as well probably........ or at least bi........

If hes white, it would be unusual, you cant tell from the video. Its more likely hes mixed race, but some whites do go "native"in black neighborhoods.

Either way they will be caught.

This does not negate the point that blacks dont rob blacks in London.

LDN_Irish

cruasder777 wrote: »

Because blacks in London only rob whites, never their own.

Complete and utter bollocks, you don't know what you're talking about.

cruasder777

LDN_Irish wrote: »

Complete and utter bollocks, you don't know what you're talking about.

I grew up in Lambeth my friend. I know all about black street gangs.

Had numerous experiences of them.

circadian

cruasder777 wrote: »

If hes white, it would be unusual, you cant tell from the video. Its more likely hes mixed race, but some whites do go "native"in black neighborhoods.

Either way they will be caught.

This does not negate the point that blacks dont rob blacks in London.

I'm mixed race. Who am I more likely to rob?

cruasder777

circadian wrote: »

I'm mixed race. Who am I more likely to rob?

You are saying youre a thief ?


Middle class mixed race males often identify with white, in the ghetto black.

LDN_Irish

cruasder777 wrote: »

I grew up in Lambeth my friend. I know all about black street gangs.

Had numerous experiences of them.

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise you had such solid credentials. It's still complete bollocks.

cruasder777

LDN_Irish wrote: »

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise you had such solid credentials. It's still complete bollocks.

Go away :mad:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html

circadian

cruasder777 wrote: »

You are saying youre a thief ?


Middle class mixed race males often identify with white, in the ghetto black.

The idea that I'm going to rob someone is hypothetical. You knew that but nice deflection nonetheless.

Oh and I grew up in a working class area in Northern Ireland. I'm sure you'd have some solid assertstions based on what community I'm from.

mikom

cruasder777 wrote: »

I grew up in Lambeth my friend. I know all about black street gangs.

Had numerous experiences of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fgKn3SbCYQ

circadian

circadian wrote: »

I don't mean to make light of the situation but the continual ignoring of the reports that one of the gang was white and another of unidentified race makes me think some posters see him as a bit of a J-Roc.



Edit:my point being guilty by association or as someone mentioned above, mixed race.

I despair. It's about a murder, race doesn't come into it.

You know what I'm saying?

circadian wrote: »

I'm mixed race. Who am I more likely to rob?

Koreans?

cruasder777

circadian wrote: »

The idea that I'm going to rob someone is hypothetical. You knew that but nice deflection nonetheless.

Oh and I grew up in a working class area in Northern Ireland. I'm sure you'd have some solid assertstions based on what community I'm from.

If you were mixed race, hung around in a black street gang, obviously whites would be your victims.

I once saw a black African get mugged by blacks of a west Indian background outside the university of the Southbank, there is tension with Africans. This is unusual.

But most victims are overwhelmingly white.

LDN_Irish

cruasder777 wrote: »

Go away :mad:


elegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html[/url]

The only part of that link that says anything about the race of victims of crime is this:

"The police figures also show that black men are twice as likely to be victims. They made up 29 per cent of the male victims of gun crime and 24 per cent of the male victims of knife crime."

So, have you anything to back up your claim that "blacks never rob blacks"? And no, where you're from or where you went on your holidays last year does not make your claims gospel

circadian

cruasder777 wrote: »

If you were mixed race, hung around in a black street gang, obviously whites would be your victims.

I once saw a black African get mugged by blacks of a west Indian background outside the university of the Southbank, there is tension with Africans. This is unusual.

But most victims are overwhelmingly white.

Regardless of the validity of your statement, because the victim was white then it's instantly related to a black gang and is racially motivated?

Amazingfun

circadian wrote: »

Regardless of the validity of your statement, because the victim was white then it's instantly related to a black gang and is racially motivated?

Try reversing the races in this terrible event and then imagine both the media coverage and worldwide "outrage" in response. You think racial motivation would be considered then? So...yeah, it works both ways.