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Farmer Pudsey · 19-02-2015 12:22AM

davidk1394 wrote: »

They were being fed since the 2nd week of November

Not long enough. I always found with bulls taht iy was best to feed outside during late August and September for 6 weeks at 3kgs/day and build to 5/day during last week outside and house first week in October. They be going at Christmass and all be gone by end of January. This was best time as glut started early february.

However you had good weight on them for age and weight pays. Wheat is good to get fat cover and it speed up maize through rumen as maize can really slow down Rumen. It a bit like adding kerosene to diesel to make it burn hotter.

Willfarman · 19-02-2015 09:41AM

With the inconsistenties that the grading shows in differant factories and sometimes even the same factory it is hard to fine tune a feeding regime that will give predictable results.

I said · 19-02-2015 03:03PM

Coveney denies Goodman association or past will affect Irish beef exports
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/coveney-denies-goodman-association-past-will-affect-irish-beef-exports/

Wondering when it would rear it's head

Miller80 · 19-02-2015 03:48PM

What price are fr culls going? Have 6, 3 should be close to 400kg dw and 3 around 350kg dw.

Willfarman · 19-02-2015 09:05PM

I said wrote: »

Coveney denies Goodman association or past will affect Irish beef exports
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/coveney-denies-goodman-association-past-will-affect-irish-beef-exports/

Wondering when it would rear it's head

Well super shiny Simon and the Boulder larry did a wonderful job of making the horse meat scandal fade away from the public eye...

simx · 19-02-2015 10:37PM

Miller80 wrote: »

What price are fr culls going? Have 6, 3 should be close to 400kg dw and 3 around 350kg dw.

3.55/60

Jb1989 · 19-02-2015 10:46PM

My man in the know says a further pull in prices next week as in some places this week. Along with the next 6 weeks under par with the previous Couple. Supose the 100 day cattle is Takeing it's impact

Willfarman · 20-02-2015 10:29PM

I think thet meeting a bit of resistance this time. No kill in slaney on Monday. But a lot of cattle bought up early last week at 4.15 steers for Tuesday. Trying for 4.10 for anyone looking for quote today.

davidk1394 · 21-02-2015 01:45PM

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Not long enough. I always found with bulls taht iy was best to feed outside during late August and September for 6 weeks at 3kgs/day and build to 5/day during last week outside and house first week in October. They be going at Christmass and all be gone by end of January. This was best time as glut started early february.

However you had good weight on them for age and weight pays. Wheat is good to get fat cover and it speed up maize through rumen as maize can really slow down Rumen. It a bit like adding kerosene to diesel to make it burn hotter.

Thanks for the info only started at the bulls 3 years ago so still learning !!

severeoversteer · 21-02-2015 02:40PM

davidk1394 wrote: »

Thanks for the info only started at the bulls 3 years ago so still learning !!

last years bulls on this farm, some of them ended up being fed adlib for 150 days ! but they didn't go stale for a finish as they were still gaining weight based on regular weighing

they were some beasts after the end of it though!

was holding for a better price that never came.

expectationlost · 21-02-2015 04:25PM

will there be any ongoing inspections of beef production in Ireland by American or Chinese officials?

rangler1 · 21-02-2015 05:15PM

severeoversteer wrote: »

last years bulls on this farm, some of them ended up being fed adlib for 150 days ! but they didn't go stale for a finish as they were still gaining weight based on regular weighing

they were some beasts after the end of it though!

was holding for a better price that never came.

Bord bia say that the market for bull beef is still very difficult, supermarkets say that they can get bull beef anywhere but they are very interested in Irish steer/ heifer beef

mf240 · 21-02-2015 05:49PM

rangler1 wrote: »

Bord bia say that the market for bull beef is still very difficult, supermarkets say that they can get bull beef anywhere but they are very interested in Irish steer/ heifer beef

Must be true if bord bia said it.

Farmer Pudsey · 21-02-2015 06:03PM

rangler1 wrote: »

Bord bia say that the market for bull beef is still very difficult, supermarkets say that they can get bull beef anywhere but they are very interested in Irish steer/ heifer beef

Steer beef is unenomical over the winter efficiency of bulls very important in system. As we have no access to byproduct at competitive prices we need bulls in the winter system.

rangler1 · 21-02-2015 06:12PM

mf240 wrote: »

Must be true if bord bia said it.

Yea... people thought they were lying last year too: :rolleyes:

mf240 · 21-02-2015 07:37PM

rangler1 wrote: »

Yea... people thought they were lying last year too: :rolleyes:

Oh horses ya horses.

rangler1 · 21-02-2015 11:26PM

mf240 wrote: »

Oh horses ya horses.

It's alright, you can leave it to agriland to undermine the Irish beef exports

Bullocks · 21-02-2015 11:32PM

rangler1 wrote: »

It's alright, you can leave it to agriland to undermine the Irish beef exports

What did they do ?

Willfarman · 22-02-2015 12:43AM

We can leave it to the abp group under the stewardship of larry goodman and greencore under the the stewardship of the brother of our beloved minister to undermine our exports by selling nags of horses as beef to unsuspecting consumers..

Nettleman · 22-02-2015 01:03AM

rangler1 wrote: »

It's alright, you can leave it to agriland to undermine the Irish beef exports

I think you should explain what you mean by that remark, because I don't know what your on about ? I've always found thier reporting to be unbiased , and from my experience not all good news stories in agriculture are good news for farmers and this website seems to hit that nail on the head everytime!

Farmer Pudsey · 22-02-2015 03:54AM

Nettleman wrote: »

I think you should explain what you mean by that remark, because I don't know what your on about ? I've always found thier reporting to be unbiased , and from my experience not all good news stories in agriculture are good news for farmers and this website seems to hit that nail on the head everytime!

Unbiased means that they do not support the status quo. The rag is the only official propaganda leaflet. Any news source that differs from Der Fuhrer and its propaganda are undermining the war effort.

TBH Nettleman you are long enough on boards to understand that.

Cop yourself on. :P

rangler1 · 22-02-2015 08:59AM

Willfarman wrote: »

We can leave it to the abp group under the stewardship of larry goodman and greencore under the the stewardship of the brother of our beloved minister to undermine our exports by selling nags of horses as beef to unsuspecting consumers..

Is this not begrudgery, are these guys not selling enough beef for you, have you anyone better at it, there was no big rush to buy Kildare chilling.
Why should it bother you how they're doing it.
I'm sure no one was envious of Larry when he was starting out.
Agriland were fairly desperate when they had to report on Deputy Paul Murphys' concerns about the beef tribunal.

Fuxake · 22-02-2015 10:32AM

rangler1 wrote: »

Is this not begrudgery, are these guys not selling enough beef for you, have you anyone better at it, there was no big rush to buy Kildare chilling.
Why should it bother you how they're doing it.
I'm sure no one was envious of Larry when he was starting out.
Agriland were fairly desperate when they had to report on Deputy Paul Murphys' concerns about the beef tribunal.

Jeez IFA must be getting worried about Agriland impact when resorting to this sort of obvious blackening propaganda. But then again, the editor of Agriland doesn't have to get everything cleared with IFA before they publish. Shocking new world out there!!!

Willfarman · 22-02-2015 10:34AM

rangler1 wrote: »

Is this not begrudgery, are these guys not selling enough beef for you, have you anyone better at it, there was no big rush to buy Kildare chilling.
Why should it bother you how they're doing it.
I'm sure no one was envious of Larry when he was starting out.
Agriland were fairly desperate when they had to report on Deputy Paul Murphys' concerns about the beef tribunal.

You are trying to antagonise me now.

rangler1 · 22-02-2015 11:20AM

Fuxake wrote: »

Jeez IFA must be getting worried about Agriland impact when resorting to this sort of obvious blackening propaganda. But then again, the editor of Agriland doesn't have to get everything cleared with IFA before they publish. Shocking new world out there!!!

IFA, What's that!!!!!
There' a small barber shop in the local village, about 10ft by 12ft rented from a local young fellow who bought it 30yrs ago after qualifying as a butcher, he rented a yard in the village for killing and started with nothing selling meat. I wouldn't imagine many on here worked as hard as he did, but now he has a nice farm, huge house, and a fine abbatoir sending out two lorry loads a day.......and of course the original shop set to a barber.
Whatever about the new world, that's the real world out there and that opportunity is available to everyone that wants it, if they just pull the finger out...no quotas needed nor subsidies nor entitlements either

Willfarman · 22-02-2015 11:39AM

rangler1 wrote: »

IFA, What's that!!!!!
There' a small barber shop in the local village, about 10ft by 12ft rented from a local young fellow who bought it 30yrs ago after qualifying as a butcher, he rented a yard in the village for killing and started with nothing selling meat. I wouldn't imagine many on here worked as hard as he did, but now he has a nice farm, huge house, and a fine abbatoir sending out two lorry loads a day.......and of course the original shop set to a barber.
Whatever about the new world, that's the real world out there and that opportunity is available to everyone that wants it, if they just pull the finger out...no quotas needed nor subsidies nor entitlements either but if people prefer begrudgery:eek:

There was a butchers shop in every village killing there own stock, and several in every town up to 20 years ago until our dept of agriculture made their own interpretation of eu legislation on small abattoirs and persisted in closing most of them. Same e.u legislation in France and and they were let survive. And yes I begrudge larry goodman making billions at the expense of rural communities and economies. I believe him to be a sociopath.

rangler1 · 22-02-2015 11:43AM

Willfarman wrote: »

There was a butchers shop in every village killing there own stock, and several in every town up to 20 years ago until our dept of agriculture made their own interpretation of eu legislation on small abattoirs and persisted in closing most of them. Same e.u legislation in France and and they were let survive. And yes I begrudge larry goodman making billions at the expense of rural communities and economies. I believe him to be a sociopath.

I wonder, this guy expanded despite all the regulations

Willfarman · 22-02-2015 11:53AM

rangler1 wrote: »

I wonder, this guy expanded despite all the regulations

Have to hand it to him he triumphed over adversity. Only two survived in co. Wexford. One has expanded to a medium sized enterprise. The other small to medium. But I concur the one thing they all have in common is they work all hours they have.

rangler1 · 22-02-2015 12:10PM

Willfarman wrote: »

Have to hand it to him he triumphed over adversity. Only two survived in co. Wexford. One has expanded to a medium sized enterprise. The other small to medium. But I concur the one thing they all have in common is they work all hours they have.

As does anyone self employed in this country if they want a decent wage,
Ok, Larry is too big to fail now, but he wasn't always that way.
Isn't the government now showing a lot of undeserved respect to failed developers now because this country needs every entrepreneur it can get,
Larry employs up to 10000 now across England and Ireland...

Miname · 22-02-2015 12:16PM

rangler1 wrote: »

I wonder, this guy expanded despite all the regulations

I often agree with some of your sentiments but this one is way off. Rebranding meat, horse meat scams and bullying everyone. He's the biggest but he's pretty much pissed on everyone else and got there by bullying and tricks. Nearly every problem there has been with meat exporting he's been at the root of it.

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