Cheltenham Festival 2015

Shemale wrote: »

Does anyone know where you can check all of a horses entries, ATR and RP only show one race even though the horse could be in a few markets with the bookies. I may have found a nice one.

Just because they are in the betting doesn't actually mean they have an entry

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Just because they are in the betting doesn't actually mean they have an entry

I know, this horse is not in the market for the race I think he may go for but is entered in another race and is in that market.

I think those sites only show one entry anyway even if he does hold two entries.

Little King Robin has really grabbed my attention, just spotted her at 16/1 in the Mares, doubt she will go to the Champion and she has some decent form in the book. Bowe is a fair man for getting a horse right for the day.

Shemale wrote: »

Little King Robin has really grabbed my attention, just spotted her at 16/1 in the Mares, doubt she will go to the Champion and she has some decent form in the book. Bowe is a fair man for getting a horse right for the day.

She'd only be a target for Quinn's mare and Annie. Impossible to see her put enough of a gap between herself and the rest and stay up the hill, imo

With Boyles going NRNB on Ryanair today I've had a bet on two against the field. I know Don Cossack has been visually impressive this season but he has beaten a disappointing horse in Wonderful Charm (I was a massive fan but he clearly lacks tactical speed), stayers in Boston Bob & LW and a highly inconsistent, if talented, chaser in Champagne. He's clearly talented but given his price, the fact he has plenty to prove at the festival, I think he's too short. I've never been a fan of Dynaste at Cheltenham and think he'll have to battle harder if he's to win this years renewal and not sure he'll be up to it. Champagne Fever, Al Ferof and Hidden Cyclone are QM bound and while I love Balder Sucess as an animal, his Cheltenham record puts me off - while 2m4 is clearly his trip, the hill would be a worry.

The two I like, and have backed are Cue Card (8/1) and Ballycasey (12/1). As Aidan pointed out on his thread a good while back, Cue Card if anywhere near his best will take all the beating. He's the best horse in the race, and while he was never a 3miler, has a superb festival record and the perfect blend of speed, bold-jumping and staying power for this race. Bettef ground should really help him too. I was hoping to get the 16/1 about Ballycasey but unfortunately missed the boat earlier, though happy to take 4pts shorter with NRNB. The reason I like Mullins horse is that IMO he falls perfectly into what's needed to win the race. Although shown up over 2m at Christmas, he travels very well through his races, jumps lovely bar the odd hiccup and having watched back last seasons RSA for the first time, I was amazed at how well he went until stamina gave way. His form over the intermediate trip is very strong too - 1f1- beating Don Cossack readily over it last season and falling when having Rebel Fitz hard at it. When you compare his price to the favs, I think he's a standout bet.

All aboard the Cue Card express!
8/1 still an excellent price for me.
If he gets a nice early rhythm to his jumping going I think he'll be very hard to beat. Massive fan of Don Cossack but at the prices, I can't have him- this is another step up in class and we've yet to see him compete at this level. Would still absolutely love if he won but from a betting point of view the value lies with Tizzard's for me.

tomaussie wrote: »

Dudes.

I have Vautour for the Arkle in nearly all my anti post combos.

So first question - will he run in it ?

No, sorry man, looks a cert for JLT unless something happens the beast.

tomaussie wrote: »

Thought as much. Thanks for the heads up.

Second question - are all my combos including Valtour for the Arkle now dead ?

My little brain is telling me they are. It's a loser right ?

For example -

My EW accum is a loser ?

My treble is a loser ?

My double is a loser ?

But one of my other bets, a Yankee, becomes a trixie ?

Yep infortunately. Yea, any Yankee would become a Trixie.

jimjamcos wrote: »

With Boyles going NRNB on Ryanair today I've had a bet on two against the field. I know Don Cossack has been visually impressive this season but he has beaten a disappointing horse in Wonderful Charm (I was a massive fan but he clearly lacks tactical speed), stayers in Boston Bob & LW and a highly inconsistent, if talented, chaser in Champagne. He's clearly talented but given his price, the fact he has plenty to prove at the festival, I think he's too short. I've never been a fan of Dynaste at Cheltenham and think he'll have to battle harder if he's to win this years renewal and not sure he'll be up to it. Champagne Fever, Al Ferof and Hidden Cyclone are QM bound and while I love Balder Sucess as an animal, his Cheltenham record puts me off - while 2m4 is clearly his trip, the hill would be a worry.

The two I like, and have backed are Cue Card (8/1) and Ballycasey (12/1). As Aidan pointed out on his thread a good while back, Cue Card if anywhere near his best will take all the beating. He's the best horse in the race, and while he was never a 3miler, has a superb festival record and the perfect blend of speed, bold-jumping and staying power for this race. Bettef ground should really help him too. I was hoping to get the 16/1 about Ballycasey but unfortunately missed the boat earlier, though happy to take 4pts shorter with NRNB. The reason I like Mullins horse is that IMO he falls perfectly into what's needed to win the race. Although shown up over 2m at Christmas, he travels very well through his races, jumps lovely bar the odd hiccup and having watched back last seasons RSA for the first time, I was amazed at how well he went until stamina gave way. His form over the intermediate trip is very strong too - 1f1- beating Don Cossack readily over it last season and falling when having Rebel Fitz hard at it. When you compare his price to the favs, I think he's a standout bet.

Good analysis and while I think Cue Card is still a very talented horse, I think he might just not be the force of old. He just seemed to run very flat behind God Own early in the year and was only 4th in the Betfair when fav and 5th in the King George. I do think the break will help him though. Ballycasey is a horse I've always had a soft spot for but I think he has a soft spot himself! Just doesn't seem to enjoy a battle.

The horse I've backed is John's Spirit at 12/1. He obviously loves it around Cheltenham winning there this year and coming second to Caid Du Berlais in the paddypower. Only one place behind Cue Card in the King George then and I think he'll go very close come March.

skippymac6 wrote: »

Good analysis and while I think Cue Card is still a very talented horse, I think he might just not be the force of old. He just seemed to run very flat behind God Own early in the year and was only 4th in the Betfair when fav and 5th in the King George. I do think the break will help him though. Ballycasey is a horse I've always had a soft spot for but I think he has a soft spot himself! Just doesn't seem to enjoy a battle.

The horse I've backed is John's Spirit at 12/1. He obviously loves it around Cheltenham winning there this year and coming second to Caid Du Berlais in the paddypower. Only one place behind Cue Card in the King George then and I think he'll go very close come March.

Regarding Cue Card, I'm happy to ignore all his form over 3m (Betfair win wasn't even 3m) and see little point in comparing his and John Spirits King George run as neither are best over that trip. Johns Spirit is a thoroughly likeable horse but given he's been mixing it with decent handicappers mostly, I'd be disappointed if he was good enough to win what looks a strong Ryanair. Think his price is short tbh.

With regards to Ballycasey and his battling qualities, I'd be happy enough with how he's finished races when over correct trip. As I've said, just think he's maybe seen as softish due to weakening over a trip he'd never get.

jimjamcos wrote: »

Regarding Cue Card, I'm happy to ignore all his form over 3m (Betfair win wasn't even 3m) and see little point in comparing his and John Spirits King George run as neither are best over that trip. Johns Spirit is a thoroughly likeable horse but given he's been mixing it with decent handicappers mostly, I'd be disappointed if he was good enough to win what looks a strong Ryanair. Think his price is short tbh.

With regards to Ballycasey and his battling qualities, I'd be happy enough with how he's finished races when over correct trip. As I've said, just think he's maybe seen as softish due to weakening over a trip he'd never get.

Yep I agree with you regarding Cue Card and his form over 3 miles. If he was back to close to his best for this then I would not hesitate in backing him but as I said, I just think he has just regressed a bit this year. Ballycasey is probably another one that is not a 3 miler and I'll agree that he looked very good when beating Don Cossack and Carlingford Lough over this trip at Leopardstown last January before the festival too. Ruby has always said he oozes class so hopefully he can put it altogther at the festival.

Generally handicappers don't translate into Grade 1 animals and especially not at the festival but in the last few years we've seen the likes of Carlilngford Lough & Road To Riches win handicaps including the Galway Plate and translate into Grade 1 horses. Also last year Double Ross ran well in handicaps and the Paddypower and was a close third to Taquin du Seuil and Uxizandre then in the JLT. It's a bit of stretch to say that johns Spirit might win it but I think he's a very genuine horse and he usually runs his race so I'm happy to take 12/1 at the minute and hope Jonjo's are in better form come March.

fuzzydunlop85 wrote: »

Is there anyway uds won't go in the arc lads? Gonna start doing small doubles / trebles every day from now till March and don't think it's nrnb,

No chance UDS doesn't go the Arkle Fuzzy unless he has some sort of setback, that's the only way he doesn't line up there.

Itziger wrote: »

Ah Jaysus, he's not that good, is he??

At least you have 6 more months after March to get your doubles and trebles on

He's a gelding can't run :cool: