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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    Lads I came here and asked a question. Most of you who've answered (Including the mod) have decided that I was trespassing on private land, couldn't give a sh!te about private land, or am here to wind you up.

    If you want to have a thread called 'I'm pissed off with hikers' have one, but I'm not gonna take a ton of **** about 'you lot' etc.

    Like I said, I appreciate all the answers that took me at face value (or actually had a clue where I was at the time I was hiking). Good luck.
    Hillwalkers seem to think they have a divine right across other peoples land but dont like anyone else using it.
    Cass wrote: »
    i've no time for knee high sock wearers that get stuck up mountains due to lack of knowledge and preparation.
    I'm actually sick to the teeth with hill walkers and the likes.
    I have permission to hunt on some great land or well it used to be until you lot turned up walking everywhere.
    Go to parks or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭yubabill1


    OP, if there were more hikers like you it would be great.

    You can't really blame the lads for being a bit prickly - we get trolled more often than not, usually in an insidious way where the poster's intentions are not immediately obvious.

    As you can see, we are more than capable of defending ourselves.

    We live in a beautiful country, let's continue to enjoy it together.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 28,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    yubabill1 wrote: »
    I think it's fair enough if hikers are conscientious enough to know that hunters are around and come here to ask genuine questions if they have concerns. .
    But the OP didn't. He knew nothing about the hunters until the shot. Meaning the responsibility for their welfare lay with the hunters. Like a bad driver that depends on the alertness of others to prevent him having an accident.
    Amazed that this answer took so long to come. Too many overly defensive hunters here.
    It's the hunting forum, and we get trolled regularly so thread carefully with your accusations.
    Interesting. I'd always have a good look around for anyone when taking a shot. Even on private land. Someone trespassing accidently doesn't justify possibly putting them at risk. .
    Accidental trespass is still trespass, and as above, why should the responsibility of your welfare rest with a hunter/shooter or other simply because you are too lazy to identify the land you are on and whether you have permission to be on it. (you is the metaphorical you, not literal you).
    aaakev wrote: »
    The op was not trespassing and asked a simple question because he didn't know something
    The OP did not know.


    Here is a thread from 2 weeks ago. Started off innocent enough, and within an hour it turned into a witch hunt in which the OP seemed to be the offended party, but actually was the offending party. That thread was closed fairly sharply, but shows where threads can and do go.
    Forum Charter - Useful Information - Photo thread: Hardware - Ranges by County - Hunting Laws/Important threads - Upcoming Events - RFDs by County

    If you see a problem post use the report post function. Click on the three dots on the post, select "FLAG" & let a Moderator deal with it.

    Moderators - Cass otmmyboy2 , CatMod - Shamboc , Admins - Beasty , mickeroo



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭CaptainInsano


    Cass wrote: »
    But the OP didn't. He knew nothing about the hunters until the shot. Meaning the responsibility for their welfare lay with the hunters. Like a bad driver that depends on the alertness of others to prevent him having an accident.

    It's the hunting forum, and we get trolled regularly so thread carefully with your accusations.

    Accidental trespass is still trespass, and as above, why should the responsibility of your welfare rest with a hunter/shooter or other simply because you are too lazy to identify the land you are on and whether you have permission to be on it. (you is the metaphorical you, not literal you).

    The OP did not know.


    Here is a thread from 2 weeks ago. Started off innocent enough, and within an hour it turned into a witch hunt in which the OP seemed to be the offended party, but actually was the offending party. That thread was closed fairly sharply, but shows where threads can and do go.

    But just answer his question from the start then and if he continues to pursue the topic negatively then fair enough. Everyone shouldn't come out all guns blazing, if you'll forgive the pun, from the get go. Its makes everyone look bad and everyone else get their backs up.
    And sorry, I think a hunters number one priority should be the safety of his fellow humans. If, heaven forbid, the Op was shot and had accidentally trespassed, I would sincerely hope no one here would say ''well what was he doing there in the first place?''


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭deeksofdoom


    I think a hunters number one priority should be the safety of his fellow humans. If, heaven forbid, the Op was shot and had accidentally trespassed, I would sincerely hope no one here would say ''well what was he doing there in the first place?''

    Safety is always the number one priority for anyone out shooting, the same should go for anyone out hiking, that should be fcuking obvious.

    Enough of the bullsh1t statements.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭Wadi14


    I just had another look at the Forum Rules No1 is interesting reading hhhmmmm lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭deeksofdoom


    Wadi14 wrote: »
    I just had another look at the Forum Rules No1 is interesting reading hhhmmmm lol

    He's preaching to the converted.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    But just answer his question from the start then and if he continues to pursue the topic negatively then fair enough. Everyone shouldn't come out all guns blazing, if you'll forgive the pun, from the get go. Its makes everyone look bad and everyone else get their backs up.
    And sorry, I think a hunters number one priority should be the safety of his fellow humans. If, heaven forbid, the Op was shot and had accidentally trespassed, I would sincerely hope no one here would say ''well what was he doing there in the first place?''

    Well suppose il ask.
    What wa he doing there in the first place??
    We as hunters have to ask around to get permission which is hard as it is so what makes hill walkers or anyone for that matter think they can ignore that and walk onto land that they have no right to be on completely ignoring the fact that there may be lads out hunting animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Well suppose il ask.
    What wa he doing there in the first place??
    We as hunters have to ask around to get permission which is hard as it is so what makes hill walkers or anyone for that matter think they can ignore that and walk onto land that they have no right to be on completely ignoring the fact that there may be lads out hunting animals.
    if you knew the area you would know you dont need permission to be there, he was doing no wrong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 457 ✭✭CaptainInsano


    Safety is always the number one priority for anyone out shooting, the same should go for anyone out hiking, that should be fcuking obvious.

    Enough of the bullsh1t statements.

    I don't doubt it. But walking onto land by accident is far below shooting someone by accident. Anyway, it's been established that neither party did anything wrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    I have had permission and have hunted on the other side of that mountain for many years now, he dosen't need permission to be there as there is a public right of way... Still all parties need to have their whits about them up there it is dangerous enough as it is.


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