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lmimmfn · 08-01-2015 11:01pm

Shiminay wrote: »

"the hot chick on youtube" - really? :rolleyes:

lol, well she is! :rolleyes:

dreamers75 · 08-01-2015 11:26pm

http://www.pcgamer.com/intels-compute-stick-is-a-149-chromecast-sized-pc/

thats kinda cool

/waits for revision 2

Shiminay · 08-01-2015 11:28pm

And that's all she is, yea?

If you ever hear people talking about everyday or casual sexism, that's the classic example. You have reduced a human being to nothing more than an object by saying she is nothing more than "hot" whilst saying nothing about who that human is as a person. I know you didn't mean it as any sort of an insult or in any sort of negative way, but if you see this sorta thing, you gotta call it out or it never goes away, and I'd really rather it went away.

lmimmfn · 08-01-2015 11:43pm

AH is the place for talking about sexism :P

dreamers75 · 08-01-2015 11:45pm

this thread has gone seriously fcuked up the last few days.

from men arses to hot chicks....teh fcuk ?

Gbear · 08-01-2015 11:45pm

Shiminay wrote: »

"the hot chick on youtube" - really? :rolleyes:

She also makes funny noises.:p

Taylor365 · 08-01-2015 11:51pm

Shiminay wrote: »

And that's all she is, yea?

If you ever hear people talking about everyday or casual sexism, that's the classic example. You have reduced a human being to nothing more than an object by saying she is nothing more than "hot" whilst saying nothing about who that human is as a person. I know you didn't mean it as any sort of an insult or in any sort of negative way, but if you see this sorta thing, you gotta call it out or it never goes away, and I'd really rather it went away.

An object with a cool personality and sense of humour! :pac:

wotzgoingon · 09-01-2015 12:08am

lmimmfn wrote: »

mines the UD5, but as far as i know the UD7 officially supports it, check the official Gigabyte site for that mobo. Like i said though X58UD5 rev 1 doesnt officially support it on the Gigabyte page, says support alright for rev 2 but it works on mine no problem.
The best threads to check are hardocp - http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1820772&page=12
and http://www.overclock.net/t/1461359/official-xeon-x5660-x58-review-discussion-and-xeon-l5639-benchmarks-inside

the 5660, 5670 and 5675 are also options depending on your budget, they have higher multipliers for overclocking, so probably get a higher overclock or wont strain the chip much to get 4.4Ghz or thereabouts.

Cheers for the heads up. I was actually thinking about upgrading to the i7 970 for the extra cores but the xeon is just as good maybe even better as it runs cooler.

I just ordered a x5660, in Ireland as well but the fella had sterling prices as well as sterling shipping , £7 shipping day light robbery, should have called to his house.

Shiminay · 09-01-2015 12:09am

Here she is singing a song as Eevee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMohWRpL2ig

Links234 · 09-01-2015 12:14am

dreamers75 wrote: »

this thread has gone seriously fcuked up the last few days.

from men arses to hot chicks....teh fcuk ?

if we can have sexy female characters in games, why not sexy male characters?

lmimmfn · 09-01-2015 12:21am

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Cheers for the heads up. I was actually thinking about upgrading to the i7 970 for the extra cores but the xeon is just as good maybe even better as it runs cooler.

I just ordered a x5660, in Ireland as well but the fella had sterling prices as well as sterling shipping , £7 shipping day light robbery, should have called to his house.

no probs, yeah it should run cooler and use less power than a 970( and a lot cheaper on average ). Sweet that you got it in ireland.
Be careful when overclocking it, dont go above the limits mentioned in the HardOCP thread i linked( page 1 ) for vcore, PLL/HTT etc. actually i wouldnt go above 1.35 on vcore.

Its a cool upgrade

, 3DMark Firestrike increased by 1000 for me to ~ 11500 and min FPS in games are up ~20% from my 920@4Ghz, more for games like BF4 and DA:I which use 6 cores.

dreamers75 · 09-01-2015 12:27am

Links234 wrote: »

if we can have sexy female characters in games, why not sexy male characters?

K use the off topic thread for that, this is for cheap assed games.

Did you see what I did there

gizmo · 09-01-2015 1:58am

Kiith wrote: »

I'm a bit worried that a lot of developers have lost the ability to properly optimise games now. We've had hardware that was 3-4 times more powerful for so long, optimisation wasn't that big a deal. But now as we see good looking games come out on consoles more often, unless they get properly optimised, minimum specs are going to keep rising.

Hopefully the fact that the consoles are practically pc's anyway, will help keep things reasonable.

If anything, developers ability to optimise has increased over the previous console generations. I mean look at what was achieved towards the end of the last generation on the PS3. Sure it required mastering of SPU programming but, intricacies of that aside, you're still dealing with hardware with only 256MB of RAM and VRAM.

The actual problem is, resources have traditionally been directed at optimising specifically for the console platforms. Unfortunately the idea that consoles are basically PCs and that we're going to get more optimised ports for free has, at times, been dramatically overstated. The change is certainly going to aid devs but the goal of most studios will still be to target the precise specs of the consoles and eke out every bit of performance they can from them.

Either way, I'd wager we're only going to see real change when the next gen engines mature and some of the bigger studios really get the time to push them.

In the meantime I'll be over here with my trusty Q9550 waiting for Skylake to hit for an upgrade. :pac:

ShadowHearth · 09-01-2015 12:25pm

Shiminay wrote: »

And that's all she is, yea?

If you ever hear people talking about everyday or casual sexism, that's the classic example. You have reduced a human being to nothing more than an object by saying she is nothing more than "hot" whilst saying nothing about who that human is as a person. I know you didn't mean it as any sort of an insult or in any sort of negative way, but if you see this sorta thing, you gotta call it out or it never goes away, and I'd really rather it went away.

Well, she is hot as hell.

I really miss times where men could just say to women that they are beautiful and not get called out sexist pigs...

Anyway, looks like very soon I will be building a second gaming PC for myself, which technically will be as powerful or even more powerful then my current gaming PC. I love that "specing and playing around with setups on paper" time!

TheDoc · 09-01-2015 12:53pm

Shiminay wrote: »

And that's all she is, yea?

If you ever hear people talking about everyday or casual sexism, that's the classic example. You have reduced a human being to nothing more than an object by saying she is nothing more than "hot" whilst saying nothing about who that human is as a person. I know you didn't mean it as any sort of an insult or in any sort of negative way, but if you see this sorta thing, you gotta call it out or it never goes away, and I'd really rather it went away.

People being way to precious about this topic lately.

While I'm all for recognising talented females in the gaming industry, I'm also perfectly comfortable in also discussing how segments of females in the gaming industry use "sex" as a method for increasing viewership and exposure.

For every one good female caster, writer, streamer or presenter that emerges, their credability is unfortunately tarnished by the 100 who also appear being absolutely rubbish at games, have pink and kittens all over their content, and a camera shoved down their top....

Was casually browsing the World of Warcraft Twitch page last night as my favourite streams were not on. In the top 10 were three female gamers, with webcams pointed at nothing but their cleavage, and the webcam ratio clearly at the size where they are chasing male viewers more then warcraft viewers.

Seems to an emerging trend on the Warcraft scene for streamers and it really annoys me. Their chat is full of trolls, their gaming ability is absolutely garbage, and their stream content is rubbish. But because there is a rack on display it gets viewers. Makes it very difficult for the high quality players and content providers lower in the lists to move up in prominence.

So you can happily call it out on me, and I'll happily debate how if woman in the gaming enviroment want to shake the stereotyping and the casual sexism, they need to take a bit of a stronger stand against the untalented members of the cohort, who do nothing but exploit that stereotype, and exploit "sex" in order to boost their revenue, viewership and in some cases just attention.

Gbear · 09-01-2015 1:21pm

TheDoc wrote: »

People being way to precious about this topic lately.

While I'm all for recognising talented females in the gaming industry, I'm also perfectly comfortable in also discussing how segments of females in the gaming industry use "sex" as a method for increasing viewership and exposure.

For every one good female caster, writer, streamer or presenter that emerges, their credability is unfortunately tarnished by the 100 who also appear being absolutely rubbish at games, have pink and kittens all over their content, and a camera shoved down their top....

Was casually browsing the World of Warcraft Twitch page last night as my favourite streams were not on. In the top 10 were three female gamers, with webcams pointed at nothing but their cleavage, and the webcam ratio clearly at the size where they are chasing male viewers more then warcraft viewers.

Seems to an emerging trend on the Warcraft scene for streamers and it really annoys me. Their chat is full of trolls, their gaming ability is absolutely garbage, and their stream content is rubbish. But because there is a rack on display it gets viewers. Makes it very difficult for the high quality players and content providers lower in the lists to move up in prominence.

So you can happily call it out on me, and I'll happily debate how if woman in the gaming enviroment want to shake the stereotyping and the casual sexism, they need to take a bit of a stronger stand against the untalented members of the cohort, who do nothing but exploit that stereotype, and exploit "sex" in order to boost their revenue, viewership and in some cases just attention.

I seem to recall Twitch trying to take a stand against it by banning topless people, women in bikinis and so forth.

In the end of the day, supply and demand will decide whether people want to see tits and it's not up to women making good content to save their gender from stereotyping. Women using boobs to get people to watch doesn't stop others from using ability, insight or humour.

And regardless, there's nothing wrong with using sex to sell a stream. Some people seem to like it. I think music by Nikki Minaj is total bollocks and dumber than a bag of hammers so I just avoid it. It doesn't take anything away from good artists.

Shiminay · 09-01-2015 1:29pm

There is a world of difference between these "cam-girls with a game" sorts (which Twitch recently made rules about - there used to be a lot of toplessness on those streams) and a lady like Dodger who runs a legit gaming channel.

I'm not for one moment suggesting that we simply ignore the "sex sells" argument, my point was that when a question was asked about who this person is, the response was nothing more than "the hot chick from YouTube" - again, not said out of malice or intention to offend or anything of the sort, but that's casual sexism and when you're casual about anything, you perpetuate the idea that it's ok. Dodger is a very beautiful lady, and there's nothing wrong in saying that but to diminish her (or any human) to being nothing more than that (a mere characteristic and not a person) is simply wrong.

If I had mentioned Flash for example, and someone asked who he is, no one would have answered with "he's some gook" because we know that's racist - casual or not. 20 years ago, no one would have batted an eyelid at that response though, so it's just about changing attitudes. I'm not trying to demonize anyone, I'm just saying "hey, lets remember we're talking about an actual person, not a character trait of a person."

Links234 · 09-01-2015 2:15pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Well, she is hot as hell.

I really miss times where men could just say to women that they are beautiful and not get called out sexist pigs...

Well to be fair, I didn't know who she was so I asked. Getting a response that she's "a hot chick" is kinda useless, it tells me nothing. I've no problems with people making observations about the attractiveness of others, but it's kinda different when you're asking a question and get a frankly crap reply.

It'd be a different thing entirely if the poster had said oh she's someone who does reviews on YouTube and she's also really hot.

TheDoc · 09-01-2015 5:16pm

That's a fair point Shiminay, I guess I feel there is just a crest of a wave relating to that kind of topic, and some of it is getting way too fragile.

But if describing someone as hot is now being defined as sexist,in any shape or form, I'm locking myself in my house and never coming out again, because society is broken.

Conriocht · 09-01-2015 7:25pm

We're allowed describe someone as hot. Nobody is saying otherwise. But defining someone merely as hot, when asked who they are, is something else though.

lmimmfn · 09-01-2015 10:00pm

Links234 wrote: »

Well to be fair, I didn't know who she was so I asked. Getting a response that she's "a hot chick" is kinda useless, it tells me nothing. I've no problems with people making observations about the attractiveness of others, but it's kinda different when you're asking a question and get a frankly crap reply.

It'd be a different thing entirely if the poster had said oh she's someone who does reviews on YouTube and she's also really hot.

Saying dodger is a hot chick on YouTube is enough information. Type dodger in youtube and she's the top result, so I disagree with it being a crap reply. You asked who she was and got enough info to get her channel.

People take things too seriously.

dreamers75 · 09-01-2015 10:02pm

#streamergate

wotzgoingon · 09-01-2015 10:02pm

That dodger girl ain't that hot anyway.

lmimmfn · 09-01-2015 10:17pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

That dodger girl ain't that hot anyway.

boo

On topic in off topic, ive been too lazy to install my Corsair H100i cpu cooler that i bought a year ago( the hassle.... ), but im getting my Crucial M550 next week so will finally take the plunge and install both next weekend, will take forever moving around the existing fans in the case to make room etc. grrrr.

Taylor365 · 09-01-2015 11:14pm

Conriocht · 09-01-2015 11:24pm

So apart from adaptive/freesync monitors, anything decent for gamers at CES? Haven't really been following it this year.

lmimmfn · 10-01-2015 12:15am

Conriocht wrote: »

So apart from adaptive/freesync monitors, anything decent for gamers at CES? Haven't really been following it this year.

Oculus rift Crescent Bay

dreamers75 · 10-01-2015 12:28am

CES has a 34 inch monitor i will have!!! freesync etc

this isnt it but it looks like it.

want want want

Also related to lmimmfn issue in my haste building my X99 Pc i attached the watercooler fan to the back of the caseand continued on, after the 1st few successful boots i put the side on.........**** it didnt fit (fan was protruding from the case)...

I made it fit!!!!

Kiith · 14-01-2015 1:41pm

Even if you buy it on Steam, it still uses UPlay. There's not escaping it.

Jerichoholic · 14-01-2015 1:51pm

Uplay is fine though, never had an issue with it.

wandatowell · 14-01-2015 1:52pm

Kiith wrote: »

Even if you buy it on Steam, it still uses UPlay. There's not escaping it.

Really? :eek:

Feckin hell

Maximus Alexander · 14-01-2015 1:59pm

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Uplay is fine though, never had an issue with it.

Jerichoholic · 14-01-2015 2:51pm

Well I haven't. What horrors have you experienced with it apart from it not being steam?

ScumLord · 14-01-2015 2:59pm

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Well I haven't. What horrors have you experienced with it apart from it not being steam?

I haven't had any problems with it personally but I bought far cry 3 for my brother in law last year on steam and it never actually worked, the jump between the two systems didn't work.

Kiith · 14-01-2015 3:03pm

Try it at when a game launches and come back to us. Watch Dogs was completely unplayable for days after it's release.

Justwinginit · 14-01-2015 3:06pm

Apart from the slow download speeds, I bought Splinter cell: Blacklist and it's stuck on an update loop. On researching, there's loads of people with the same issue. Still no fix. Will I get my money back? Will I F**K.... First and last experience with u(no)Play.

J Mysterio · 14-01-2015 3:11pm

Justwinginit wrote: »

u(no)Play.

:pac:

Shiminay · 14-01-2015 3:19pm

Yea, their platform just doesn't have the bandwidth to cope with launch days. If they solved that, I'd wager it'd take care of 75% of the UPlay complaints.

As an aside, I kinda admire the trick where your achievements actually unlock in-game things and you get to pick what you want. I'd like to see other platforms take that idea on.

Jerichoholic · 14-01-2015 4:12pm

I bought The Crew on launch and was able to play fine.

AlmightyCushion · 14-01-2015 4:17pm

I was playing far cry 3 when far cry 4 was released and uplay kept crapping out on me. The way it handles updates is horrendous as well compared to steam. Each update has to be downloaded and installed individually one after the other. Complete pain in the arse.

Maximus Alexander · 14-01-2015 4:46pm

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Well I haven't. What horrors have you experienced with it apart from it not being steam?

I haven't touched it since Far Cry 3, because I now flat out refuse to buy anything that requires it (even though I really want Child of Light). But, to answer your question, early on it hogged resources and crashed regularly, while later it was plagued with connectivity issues, especially around, but not limited to, launches of major titles.

Add that to the fact that there are enough people shoving DRM shop platforms down my throat as it is without every publisher forcing their own one on me.

I gave it a fair chance, I'm not drinking from that well again.

abbir · 14-01-2015 4:58pm

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The way it handles updates is horrendous as well compared to steam. Each update has to be downloaded and installed individually one after the other. Complete pain in the arse.

I think their newer games have fixed that, Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed Unity and Far Cry 4 are supposed to update sort of like Steam.

salamanca22 · 14-01-2015 5:03pm

I have lost saves multiple times in Uplay. It's garbage.

Maximus Alexander · 14-01-2015 5:21pm

salamanca22 wrote: »

I have lost saves multiple times in Uplay. It's garbage.

Yes that reminds me, it used to require always on connection and if you lost connection it would dump you out of the game and you'd lose your progress. Not to mention that online pass they tried to implement. They just seemed to have utter contempt for their customers...

Anyway, not the thread for it. I'll shut up.

psugrue · 14-01-2015 6:26pm

Justwinginit wrote: »

Apart from the slow download speeds, I bought Splinter cell: Blacklist and it's stuck on an update loop. On researching, there's loads of people with the same issue. Still no fix. Will I get my money back? Will I F**K.... First and last experience with u(no)Play.

yea i had this problem too, it keeps re-downloading update 1 over and over again, there are 2 more updates to the game, you have to install them manually, if you just google for update 2 and 3 you should find them.

Grumpypants · 15-01-2015 2:18pm

I downloaded 17gb of watchdogs last night in an hour at around 4mb/s same speed I get from steam. Never had any issues with uplay and it offers rewards for playing games I like that.

Considering Ubi are one of the best dev in the industry it would be silly not to want to play their games and introduce some self imposed ban because you might have to wait a few extra hours to play on release day due to server load.

Links234 · 15-01-2015 4:07pm

So, Hotline Miami 2 has just been banned in Australia. **** that noise

ShadowHearth · 15-01-2015 4:13pm

Links234 wrote: »

So, Hotline Miami 2 has just been banned in Australia. **** that noise

That only means that HM2 is going to be really epic!

Kiith · 15-01-2015 4:15pm

I'm not really surprised. Their rating system is stupid. That reminds me...i should really finish the first game.

john the one · 15-01-2015 4:17pm

Links234 wrote: »

So, Hotline Miami 2 has just been banned in Australia. **** that noise

Reason enough for me to buy it so!

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