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False ecomomy - What do you refuse to buy budget versions of?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,085 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    Chanel No 5 is kind of horrible old lady perfume.
    A lot of those old scents were designed for an era when everyone smoked and probably had lost the ability to pick out subtle smells.

    That and there would have been lots of coal smoke, heavy exhaust fumes, people didn't shower very often etc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭Username exists


    Batteries - Duracell, none of that cheap crap from the Euro shops 30 batteries for €2 my arse.
    Tea Bags - Barrys Classic Blend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭RhubarbCrumble


    Has to be Batchelors beans, Heinz ketchup and Kerrygold butter. After that it's Aldi all the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,744 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Ketchup and Baked Beans - has to be Heinz
    Mayonnaise - Has to be Hellmans
    Toothpaste - not too fussy but I wouldn't by a supermarkets own brand, it would have to be Colgate or something like that
    Teabags - Lyons, PG Tips or Bewleys - I would have to be pretty broke to resort to buying a supermarket brand, they are just never as good

    That's all I can think of for now

    Have you tried Heinz mayonnaise? It makes Hellmans' taste like wallpaper paste, imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Matta Harri


    Wasn't it actually favoured by most people, over chanel no 5 in a smell test?

    I'll see if I can find the link.

    Oh quite possible but I think it rank! All my friends got it. Now that was powerful advertising. It's not as bad as the Coco Madamoiselle one though. That was cat altogether.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Meangadh


    Don't buy them often, but when I do I wouldn't buy cheap sausages. Other than that:

    Razors
    Diet Coke
    Runners (I don't care if it's just casual wear, but for exercise I need decent ones)
    Orange juice. Cannot stand stuff made from concentrate, bleugh.
    Tyres
    Hair straighteners- HAS to be a GHD. I've tried dozens, but they're the only ones that really work.

    Other than that I don't care. Even tea, which I love, the brand itself doesn't bother me so long as the tea isn't weak and watery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭Wurly


    Marketing can't fool people all the time though.
    I think most people would be able to tell the difference between clothes washed and conditioned with Lidl brand products vs Lenor products, regardless of marketing.

    If it doesn't smell as good, taste as good, or work as good, no amount of marketing will compensate imo.

    I mean, yeah, I buy the stuff once to try it, maybe more so if it's well marketed ... but I won't buy it again if it doesn't live up to expectations.

    It kinda can....

    A lot of the products mentioned are loaded with sugar and harmful chemicals. Marketing works so that we don't see the ugly side. We see the glossy, luxurious side.

    If you're not looking at convenience food in terms of chemicals or sugar, then marketing has won!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,926 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    All that comes to mind is shoes and razor blades. The cheap ones become unuseable way too quickly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Condescending waffle! Why is it so hard for some to believe that many people find branded products superior having tried the cheaper alternative?

    It's not condescending - we are ALL susceptible to influence by marketing and advertising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,926 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    It's not condescending - we are ALL susceptible to influence by marketing and advertising.

    Bit of a stretch to argue that people who prefer the brand version only do so because they've fallen victim to marketing though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    whiskey brandy or wine. Steak, sausages,razors, tyres, deodorant,jeans, jelly sweets,chocolate, coffee, tea, crisps, condoms, watches, footwear, cakes or tarts or pies, burgers ,pizzas, cooked meats, any processed meat products for that matter, accountant, That's all I can think of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    Batteries - Duracell, none of that cheap crap from the Euro shops 30 batteries for €2 my arse.
    Tea Bags - Barrys Classic Blend.

    Someone who worked in a shop once told me that SuperValue Goldblend is made by Barrys. I've no way to verify that though but the SV goldblend is tasty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    osarusan wrote: »
    Bit of a stretch to argue that people who prefer the brand version only do so because they've fallen victim to marketing though.

    If you always buy brand, not really! Like, why would anyone buy brand granulated sugar, for example. It's sugar!


  • Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oh quite possible but I think it rank! All my friends got it. Now that was powerful advertising. It's not as bad as the Coco Madamoiselle one though. That was cat altogether.

    I think people's preferred perfumes are something that varies a lot though (though proper branded ones are going to be far far superior to anything you get in aldi). For instance my gf's favourite perfume is coco mademoiselle and I have to say I really like the scent also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    KERRYGOLD BUTTER!

    KERRYGOLD is just a brand, it's produced by multiple different companies who each also produce their own brands and no doubt some of them produce supermarket brands too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,705 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    Wurly wrote: »
    It kinda can....

    A lot of the products mentioned are loaded with sugar and harmful chemicals. Marketing works so that we don't see the ugly side. We see the glossy, luxurious side.

    If you're not looking at convenience food in terms of chemicals or sugar, then marketing has won!

    But that applies to both branded and unbranded stuff, budget or gourmet alike.

    Also, it possibly is more of a life choice sort of question, rather than marketing. If I choose convenience over organic, it's not necessarily that I have been taken in by marketing, maybe it is simply that I choose to overlook the chemicals and sugar when it suits me.

    For example when I drink Coke, or when I eat a packet of sauce/salt/chemical loaded dried pasta, I am aware of what I'm consuming, I just might fancy that at that particular time.

    Like I fancy Pringles, yum, salty chemical goodness :D

    Or would I rather a gorgeous juicy avocado for my lunch ?

    I do both, at different times, regardless of how they're marketed.


  • Site Banned Posts: 7 Gyrocream


    sblythe wrote: »
    If you don't have the money to maintain your car, don't drive it, and put others lives at risk driving your poorly maintained car.

    How do you know they are driving it? maybe they left it parked outside their house until they could afford repairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Paramite Pie


    Toiletries are the main thing but I do stock up on them when there's special offers going (Boots 3 for 2, Gillette 25 razor blade packs they do at christmas etc..).
    La Roche Posay is an expensive face-wash but it lasts me forever and I use my boots points to knock about a tenner of the 17euro price tag.

    Meat from the Butchers is better quality but sometimes it also works out a lot cheaper too.
    Larianne wrote: »
    Tomato Ketchup or Mayonaise. Has to be Heinz and Hellman's.

    Ugh.... Heinz anything is gross....:cool:

    Chef ketchup all the way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭StormWarrior


    I've discovered some great budget versions of things. When your shoes wear out, instead of wasting money buying new ones, you can wrap some old towels round your feet and cover them with plastic bags to make them waterproof, elastic band round the top to hold them on. Instead of new clothes, make head and arm hole in a binbag, put it on. That's good enough for summer but for extra warmth in winter, nick a bale of straw from your local farm to use as padding underneath. It's waterproof but if you want extra protection then make a cloak out of another binbag. This is what I do and I am warm and dry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    alias no.9 wrote: »
    KERRYGOLD is just a brand, it's produced by multiple different companies who each also produce their own brands and no doubt some of them produce supermarket brands too.

    See, I'm susceptible too. :D

    Chef ketchup all the way.

    Eww, no. Condiments are supposed to compliment, not overpower. ALL you can taste is the Chef ketchup when you put it on stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Woshy


    Like others have said it has to be Heinz ketchup and Helmanns Mayo for us. If I buy other brands I always regret it.

    Otherwise:
    Shampoo and conditioner
    Make-up
    Sausages (rudds or Superquinn for me!)
    Cat food

    Oh and diet coke. I love me some diet coke but hate any other brand. I especially hate when you order diet coke and they bring you Pepsi without even saying anything to you first. Pepsi is rank so I always send it back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Coke Zero and Irish Pride slimster bread are the only brand names I'd really go out of my way to buy. I find most other budget brands are just as good as the main brands.

    Although, there is a ketchup they sell in Tesco call The Ketchup Company and it's divine. It's quite dear, but they often have it on special for €1 and I always stock up on it when I see it at that price. Beats Heinz and Chef hands down.

    As for tyres, I simply can't afford the more expensive brands. We live on a fairly tight budget, drive a budget car and have to make do with part worn tyres (we have to buy them a tyre a week when we do). Not everyone can afford such a large outlay on tyres in one go. When you live week to week, you just make do. I've never failed an NCT yet, either, so unless the testers are incompetent at their jobs, I'm not at any risk of killing other road users just because I haven't bought Michelin or Goodyear tyres.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Coke Zero and Irish Pride slimster bread are the only brand names I'd really go out of my way to buy.

    Pepsi Max is nicer and cheaper :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Coke Zero and Irish Pride slimster bread are the only brand names I'd really go out of my way to buy. I find most other budget brands are just as good as the main brands.

    Although, there is a ketchup they sell in Tesco call The Ketchup Company and it's divine. It's quite dear, but they often have it on special for €1 and I always stock up on it when I see it at that price. Beats Heinz and Chef hands down.

    As for tyres, I simply can't afford the more expensive brands. We live on a fairly tight budget, drive a budget car and have to make do with part worn tyres (we have to buy them a tyre a week when we do). Not everyone can afford such a large outlay on tyres in one go. When you live week to week, you just make do. I've never failed an NCT yet, either, so unless the testers are incompetent at their jobs, I'm not at any risk of killing other road users just because I haven't bought Michelin or Goodyear tyres.

    The thread is about budget brands. If you have a good brand of tyre with good tread, that's fine. If you have a budget brand, IMO they are not cost effective.

    Leaving aside the part worns, for me the difference between a budget brand and a brand name tyre is roughly 30 euro per corner. So 120 euro extra for the car. The slightest accident would cost more than that.

    I had a bad accident years ago where I completely lost control of a car in the rain with 4 brand new tyres but they were cheap chinese sh1te. I nearly killed myself and my passengers. Never again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,151 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    People need to do some blind tests. It's actually a bit of fun doing them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    Campo Largo beans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Meat, especially with fowl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Pepsi Max is nicer and cheaper :)

    My oh would agree, but Pepsi to me, is rank! Can't beat the real thing ;)
    pablo128 wrote: »
    The thread is about budget brands. If you have a good brand of tyre with good tread, that's fine. If you have a budget brand, IMO they are not cost effective.

    Leaving aside the part worns, for me the difference between a budget brand and a brand name tyre is roughly 30 euro per corner. So 120 euro extra for the car. The slightest accident would cost more than that.

    I had a bad accident years ago where I completely lost control of a car in the rain with 4 brand new tyres but they were cheap chinese sh1te. I nearly killed myself and my passengers. Never again.

    If I could afford the more expensive brands, I would buy them over other brands or part worn tyres hands down. €120 extra we just don't have, it's honestly as simple as that! As long as the tyres on the car have the proper thread and have been tested and deemed safe, I'm happy enough. Never been in an accident either - touch wood!

    We use a family friend as a mechanic, who services the car yearly for less than it would usually cost in a garage and even doing that, we have to cut back drastically on other bills that month. The car is well maintained, we just can't afford to spend extra on a car that costs us a lot of our weekly/monthly budget to run as it is. I do get your point, but for many people that extra €120 adds up to a hell of a lot.
    The comment from the mechanic guy earlier in the thread bothered me a bit when he said he sighed at people looking to buy part worn tyres - for some people, they're not doing it just to be cheap, that's all their budget can allow is all. I mean, we have to go into the tyre place and ask them for a tyre a week - that's embarrassing enough without thinking they're judging us for being idiotic cheapskates who don't care about other road users too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    wine
    Champagne.
    Cienciano wrote: »
    People need to do some blind tests. It's actually a bit of fun doing them

    The wine/champagne snobs mightn't like this !!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1497870/Tesco-champagne-is-top-of-the-pops.html


    For me it's shirts, sunglasses (surprised no-one mentioned them yet!!) and shoes - in that order.
    I love the comfort and longevity of decent shirts and shoes and IMO cheap sunglasses are absolutely useless.
    My day to day pair, which I keep in the car, cost about €180 in a sale about 6/7 years ago, have been on at least 10 sunshine holidays and are used on a regular basis in the car so value for money I can't complain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,614 ✭✭✭Mozzeltoff


    Cat litter. I always buy a brand called Sepi Cat because it tends to be that bit more absorbent and you don't have to be changing it as often as you would if you were using Tesco or Supervalu brand. It's a bit pricey however a local hardware sells 15 kg bags for around 11 or 12 euro and it lasts for ages. OH bought home Tesco value cat litter once. The cat used the tray twice and I ended up having to clean it out because the litter wasn't absorbing anything and the smell was just horrendous!

    Buy most meats from the butchers as we get some great deals!!

    Beans have to be Heinz. Bathroom products have to be name brand too. Also cleaning products have to be name brand too.


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