Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - See Mod Warning in OP, 09/11

Pro. F wrote: »

The transfer market is not a perfect indicator of player quality and when it comes to central midfielders, the English market is an extremely poor indicator. English footballing culture is utterly inept at judging central midfield players. They favour athleticism, positioning, shooting and the ability to hit accurate long passes over first touch and close control. You can see the evidence for this every second summer when England's, supposedly, best CMs get passed off the park by every half decent opposition they meet.

I'm not making this a general "English teams don't know what they are doing" argument. Do you think that Michael Carrick was never a better player than Leon Britton even when he was just about helping Swansea from dropping out of the Football League?

bucketybuck wrote: »

If we do start getting defenders in, I wonder which of the sicknote crew will leave first? Jones, Evans or Smalling?

Sorry about the late reply. I'm not too sure but it was Sheringham with the goal after they scored first. I being 9 or 10 at the time was bounced around the place when he scored, it was mayhem.

Oh lawd the bitterness off of Dayum!

Pro. F wrote: »

You did try to make the argument that English managers/teams are good at judging central midfielders. I dispute that argument.

I wasn't watching Britton then so I can't say either way. What I can say is that since Britton has been in the PL he has been the best DM in the league every season.

I've always found your posts funny just because how ridiculously arrogant you are even when you are completely wrong. I wondered to myself what you could ever have done in your life to make you think your opinion on football matters is so superior to others. You have even argued in the past that some of the top managers in the world or top players in the world don't know what they are doing but you some how do. Then you posted this one day:

Pro. F wrote:

This is all I have done:
- Watched a lot of football, both in the flesh and on TV
- Played a little bit of football
- Read four or five coaching/tacitcs books
- Watched about three or four good coaching videos and a lot of shorter and/or lower quality ones
- Read a few autobiographies
- Read a lot of websites of widely varying quality
- Spent a lot of my time talking and thinking about football on here over the last five years or so

Its actually cringeworthy. The average footballer and manager will be exposed to more knowledge of the game in a week than you will get in your whole lifetime.

Its possible that in your own little world, with your own ideal way of playing football, where the defensive midfield just passes the ball 5 yards as quickly as possible that Britton could be the best defensive midfielder in the premier league but in the real world where managers are picking a team of players to try win as many points as possible Carrick is going to be picked ahead of Britton all day long! Do you think Carrick would be on the bench for Swansea because of Britton?

And before you say it, I don't always think i'm right about football opinions either, but I rarely disagree with managers decisions because I can see what they are thinking. Obviously managers make mistakes too but you've got to think they made what they thought was the best decision at the time with the information they had. The top managers are the ones who make the most right decisions.