Debate on the Working Group on Review of Firearms Licensing

clivej · 17-12-2014 11:51AM #1

Tune into the Oireachtas Justice, Defence and Equality (Joint Committee) this morning from 10:30am to watch a debate on the Working Group on Review of Firearms Licensing [with Officials from the Department of Justice and Equality and Representatives from An Garda Síochána].

It can be watched at the following link:
http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/watchlisten/live-flashplayer/committeeroom2/

extremetaz · 17-12-2014 12:02PM

linky no worky

clivej · 17-12-2014 12:05PM

I'm watching it live now at

http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/watchlisten/live-flashplayer/committeeroom2/

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:17PM

That's not sounding fantastic for us at the moment...

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:18PM

"Of those 200,000 firearms, about 145,000 are shotguns and about 70,000 are rifles".
Erm...

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:24PM

"weapon"
Oh ffs. And now we use assault rifles in the Olympics.
/facepalm

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:26PM

We shouldn't have any pistols in private ownership, period.
But if they're used for sporting purposes, that's okay.
/facepalm

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:27PM

Listening to this is *fecking hard*.

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:34PM

"The smith and weston .38 is an unrestricted weapon?"
GAAAAAH

Cass · 17-12-2014 12:35PM

He (Garda) is avoiding saying that they cannot be licensed NOW. Only those before 2008. (Handguns)

HE (Garda) says that a restricted rifle can be licensed in the morning. Funny that everyone has been refused, and had to go to court.

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:35PM

And we don't care about shotguns as we're not from farms and so know nothing about them, but we're worried about rifles so lets talk about them...

Cass · 17-12-2014 12:39PM

Why does Alan Farrel keep on asking about uses for handguns OTHER than sporting use?

Cass · 17-12-2014 12:40PM

FFS - Pakistan, Dunblane,

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:41PM

The garda view on keeping your pre-2008 centerfire pistol?
No answer given.

And now we're on to comparing us to Dunblane and yesterdays Taliban attack in Pakistan where 132 children were murdered.

Grizzly 45 · 17-12-2014 12:41PM

Oh sweet jumping JAYSUS!!! Pakistan and Dunblane could happen here !!!
This is is feckin pathetic!!

Cass · 17-12-2014 12:44PM

Produce numbers to prove that show stolen guns were used - oh wait, he cannot. Speculation again.

Grizzly 45 · 17-12-2014 12:45PM

Sean Kenny TD,a blithering IDIOT!!:mad:
Honest to GOD...I've never heard such ignorance and downright lies from AGS!!

Cass · 17-12-2014 12:45PM

Automatic guns - IOW prohibited guns.

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:46PM

http://twitter.com/SeanKennyTD

Might be nice to ask him why he thinks we want to murder children.
:mad:

Cass · 17-12-2014 12:47PM

FFS - YOU CANNOT GET A 9MM ANYMORE. NO CENTRFIRE.

The law says only target shooting for ANY handgun. Fergus Healy. Remember that name. Cherry picking his stats and bastardising the facts.

Cass · 17-12-2014 12:52PM

Starting pistols classed as firearm?????????????????/

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:53PM

Yup, and that makes up the three recovered stolen pistols it seems...

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:54PM

Now blurring the lines between magazines and clips in shotguns, though bringing up the question of banning all shotguns where you can change the magazine and now have a capacity over three shells. And then saying the same thing about handguns.

Cass · 17-12-2014 12:54PM

Now we are all law breakers because we COULD make an unrestricted gun into a restricted one.

Cass · 17-12-2014 12:56PM

Kinda makes the whole background check, and previous history a mockery. I mean if we are capable of breaking the law why license us at all.

It's a f**king joke and people should bee getting these people's names and e-mailing them picking apart this biased, derogatory, attack.

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:56PM

Oh, here we go, we have emotional attachments to our weapons now.

CJhaughey · 17-12-2014 12:57PM

How the hell can a right thinking person link events by extremists in Pakistan to firearm ownership here?
Oh wait..

Cass · 17-12-2014 12:58PM

The guns that were "surrendered" in 1972.

Y'is changed the law and made them unlicenseable otherwise we'd have our stolen property back.

Sparks · 17-12-2014 12:59PM

And the Chair (who thinks we have "emotional attachments to our weapons" - his words, not mine) wants us to store them with the Army because he was in the FCA.

Cass · 17-12-2014 01:01PM

Marion Walsh
David Stanton
Alan Farrell
Sean Kenny

And of course Garda Chief Super Fergus Healy.

Cass · 17-12-2014 01:02PM

Expertise my bollix.

Three admitted to knowing nothing about guns, and one was a weekend warrior.

We're f**ked.

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