Debate on the Working Group on Review of Firearms Licensing

clivej

Tune into the Oireachtas Justice, Defence and Equality (Joint Committee) this morning from 10:30am to watch a debate on the Working Group on Review of Firearms Licensing [with Officials from the Department of Justice and Equality and Representatives from An Garda Síochána].

It can be watched at the following link:
http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/watchlisten/live-flashplayer/committeeroom2/

extremetaz

linky no worky

clivej

I'm watching it live now at

http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/watchlisten/live-flashplayer/committeeroom2/

Sparks

That's not sounding fantastic for us at the moment...

Sparks

"Of those 200,000 firearms, about 145,000 are shotguns and about 70,000 are rifles".
Erm...

Sparks

"weapon"
Oh ffs. And now we use assault rifles in the Olympics.
/facepalm

Sparks

We shouldn't have any pistols in private ownership, period.
But if they're used for sporting purposes, that's okay.
/facepalm

Sparks

Listening to this is *fecking hard*.

Sparks

"The smith and weston .38 is an unrestricted weapon?"
GAAAAAH

Cass

He (Garda) is avoiding saying that they cannot be licensed NOW. Only those before 2008. (Handguns)

HE (Garda) says that a restricted rifle can be licensed in the morning. Funny that everyone has been refused, and had to go to court.

Sparks

And we don't care about shotguns as we're not from farms and so know nothing about them, but we're worried about rifles so lets talk about them...

Cass

Why does Alan Farrel keep on asking about uses for handguns OTHER than sporting use?

Cass

FFS - Pakistan, Dunblane,

Sparks

The garda view on keeping your pre-2008 centerfire pistol?
No answer given.


And now we're on to comparing us to Dunblane and yesterdays Taliban attack in Pakistan where 132 children were murdered.

Grizzly 45

Oh sweet jumping JAYSUS!!! Pakistan and Dunblane could happen here !!!
This is is feckin pathetic!!

Cass

Produce numbers to prove that show stolen guns were used - oh wait, he cannot. Speculation again.

Grizzly 45

Sean Kenny TD,a blithering IDIOT!!:mad:
Honest to GOD...I've never heard such ignorance and downright lies from AGS!!

Cass

Automatic guns - IOW prohibited guns.

Sparks

http://twitter.com/SeanKennyTD

Might be nice to ask him why he thinks we want to murder children.
:mad:

Cass

FFS - YOU CANNOT GET A 9MM ANYMORE. NO CENTRFIRE.

The law says only target shooting for ANY handgun. Fergus Healy. Remember that name. Cherry picking his stats and bastardising the facts.

Cass

Starting pistols classed as firearm?????????????????/

Sparks

Yup, and that makes up the three recovered stolen pistols it seems...

Sparks

Now blurring the lines between magazines and clips in shotguns, though bringing up the question of banning all shotguns where you can change the magazine and now have a capacity over three shells. And then saying the same thing about handguns.

Cass

Now we are all law breakers because we COULD make an unrestricted gun into a restricted one.

Cass

Kinda makes the whole background check, and previous history a mockery. I mean if we are capable of breaking the law why license us at all.

It's a f**king joke and people should bee getting these people's names and e-mailing them picking apart this biased, derogatory, attack.

Sparks

Oh, here we go, we have emotional attachments to our weapons now.

CJhaughey

How the hell can a right thinking person link events by extremists in Pakistan to firearm ownership here?
Oh wait..

Cass

The guns that were "surrendered" in 1972.

Y'is changed the law and made them unlicenseable otherwise we'd have our stolen property back.

Sparks

And the Chair (who thinks we have "emotional attachments to our weapons" - his words, not mine) wants us to store them with the Army because he was in the FCA.

Cass

Marion Walsh
David Stanton
Alan Farrell
Sean Kenny

And of course Garda Chief Super Fergus Healy.

Cass

Expertise my bollix.

Three admitted to knowing nothing about guns, and one was a weekend warrior.

We're f**ked.