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Irelands toughest estates?

  • 30-11-2014 07:10PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭


    A report was released online today naming Irelands's toughest estates...

    The top 4 toughest areas in the report are all areas of Dublin with Neilstown in Clondalkin coming in at number 1, followed by Dublin 1 (the North inner City), followed by West Tallaght and then Sheepmor in Blanchardstown... Despite there also being decent hardworking families struggling to live and bring up families in these areas these places still are ranked as the toughest areas in the country...

    This report was apparently from the Sunday World. I'm from clondalkin myself and Neilstown is a kip but it's nowhere there as bad as it was 10 years ago. I personally think this report is disgraceful, brings the area's down and gives it a bad name.

    What do you make of this 'report'? Agree or disagree?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Iranoutofideas


    How the fcuk did they calculate that? Load of ****e.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Is it a competition now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    Ah the Sunday World, that explains that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    I'm from the north inner city , it makes me sad we only came second !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,422 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    masti123 wrote: »
    What do you make of this 'report'? Agree or disagree?

    I haven't seen the 'report'. Do you have a link?


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  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Few rough spots in Limerick and Cork too


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭PutDownArtist


    I'm from the north inner city , it makes me sad we only came second !!

    Which north inner city? The one in town?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭masti123


    I haven't seen the 'report'. Do you have a link?

    I've seen this on a popular Dublin Radio Talkshow's Facebook last night. They commented saying it was from the Sunday World but i have yet to find the article. If anyone finds it please link :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    Which north inner city? The one in town?

    Yeah I'm from town .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Seriously good journalism pick one estate in clondalkin, one in Blanchardstown, half of tallaght and half the inner-city, its 2 north side and 2 south just to keep people happy. Absoloute gutter press.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭PutDownArtist


    salmocab wrote: »
    Seriously good journalism pick one estate in clondalkin, one in Blanchardstown, half of tallaght and half the inner-city, its 2 north side and 2 south just to keep people happy. Absoloute gutter press.

    Not really, all non Dubs think the entire place is a kip; it's only you Dubs who quarrel over which 'side' is worse.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭braddun


    limerick


    Moyross has been strongly associated in the media with anti-social behaviour and crime. Delmege Park is considered one of the worst affected areas of Moyross

    O'Malley Park(Southill)



    St Mary's Park The Island Field


    The two city centre parks are not safe at night. Arthur's Quay Park and the People's Park


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    masti123 wrote: »
    A report was released online today naming Irelands's toughest estates...

    The top 4 toughest areas in the report are all areas of Dublin with Neilstown in Clondalkin coming in at number 1, followed by Dublin 1 (the North inner City), followed by West Tallaght and then Sheepmor in Blanchardstown... Despite there also being decent hardworking families struggling to live and bring up families in these areas these places still are ranked as the toughest areas in the country...

    This report was apparently from the Sunday World. I'm from clondalkin myself and Neilstown is a kip but it's nowhere there as bad as it was 10 years ago. I personally think this report is disgraceful, brings the area's down and gives it a bad name.

    What do you make of this 'report'? Agree or disagree?

    It was a bit stupid of the Sunday World to attack their number one reader base.

    Source: I looked out the window at a tree and took a survey after asking many dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Mr_Muffin


    Ireland does not have any really bad or 'rough' estates, everywhere is pretty safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,215 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Not really, all non Dubs think the entire place is a kip; it's only you Dubs who quarrel over which 'side' is worse.

    Well considering everyone thinks its a kip it seems to be full of non dubs who moved in because the paradises they come from can't generate enough jobs to keep them in the the lifestyle they are accustomed to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,157 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Few rough spots in Limerick and Cork too

    Knocka always got a bad name

    http://corkindependent.com/20110901/news/knocknaheeny-to-address-issues-in-ibal-survey-S4210.html

    No idea why it was so bad, just was generally manky with burnt out cars, horses running around the place and rubbish everywhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    I was in Sheepmoor today. I survived, but it was a close thing...i.e it's grand and the survey is shyte..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I know Sheepmore, work in the area. Don't know what they are on about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Moyross has improved drastically in recent years. Doesn't warrant a mention anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    I haven't seen the 'report'. Do you have a link?
    THEY are home to decent, hardworking families who are struggling to live and bring up kids.

    But some of Ireland’s most troubled estates are also under siege from the twin parasites of anti-social behaviour and organised crime.

    The economic boom saw criminals grow rich with cash from drug dealing, piling on the misery for the people who wanted nothing to do with them.
    The recession and the lack of cash saw the tables turned on drug gangs as volunteers, community groups and local authority projects were able to make in-roads.
    Yet the problems caused by anti-social behaviour, drug mobs and money lenders have left decent neighbourhoods locked in a battle to shake reputations and crime statistics they don’t deserve.
     

    Neilstown, Dublin
    This west Dublin suburb is home to thousands of honest citizens, but is also the stomping ground of a hard core of the city’s serious criminals. 
    At times, open drug dealing has made trips to the shops an ordeal for some people, while for years burnt-out cars were a regular feature of the landscape. One woman previously told the Sunday World how she became the target of thugs who left a burning wheelie bin at her front door.
     

    Dublin 1
    The Sunday World recently revealed how drug addicts flocked to an inner-city flat to buy a version of crystal meth-style drug. The drug-induced erratic behaviour is witnessed by residents and workers in the area. The area has Ireland’s most concentrated and obvious problem, with street addicts involved in drug-dealing, petty crime and violent altercations.
     

    West Tallaght, Dublin
    Home to some of the Ireland’s most prolific criminals, such as the ‘Subaru Gang’, the people living on the estates of west Tallaght have had to endure more than their fair share of anti-social behaviour. The presence of community groups and sports clubs has gone some way to cancelling the evil influence of the drug-dealing gangs.
     

    Sheepmoor, Dublin
    In the western part of Dublin, Sheepmoor has witnessed a litany of gang-related crimes including a number of murders. Drugs dealers and users have blighted the lives of people trying to get on with their daily business. It is part of the territory once ruled by the infamous Westies gang, whose ultra-violence eventually cost several lives, including those of its leaders Shane Cotes and Stephen Sugg.
     

    Fairview Crescent, Limerick
    The most expensive public housing scheme ever to be built in Limerick has been dubbed the “estate from hell” after being taken over by rampaging, gun-wielding teens.
    In just five years, 20 law-abiding families have been forced to abandon their homes in the estate after being targeted by “wild” teenage gangs. 
     

    South Hill, Limerick

    For years, the sprawling estate of O’Malley Park had become a byword for criminality. The ordinary people living there often had to run the gauntlet of gang-connected thugs involved in drug dealing and violent attacks.

    People such as McCarthy-Dundon lieutenant Paul Crawford were barred from the estate in a bid to stop anti-social yobs from entering the area.
    Community groups and volunteers have made huge in-roads in turning things around.

    Moyross, Limerick
    This collection of smaller estates has seen more than its fair share of violence. Pineview Gardens was where ‘Fat’ Frankie Ryan was shot and kids Millie and Gavin Murray suffered horrendous burns in a firebomb attack. There are active community groups working to help youngsters find an alternative way of life away from criminality and anti-social behaviour.
     

    Ballincurra, Limerick

    The violent Dundon brothers – Wayne, John, Ger and Dessie – did their best to turn this part of central Limerick into a no-go area. 
    In some cases, residents who refused to sell up property to them for less than the market value were the target of devastating arson attacks. 
    ballybeg, waterford
    Drug gangs, feuding traveller clans and violent money lenders have given Ballybeg a reputation that the majority of residents don’t deserve.            
    The Sunday World recently revealed how gang violence has been specifically targeted at people working to improve the lives of people in the area.

    Muirhevnamor, Dundalk
    Gun and arson attacks this summer have highlighted how serious criminals have established a presence in this huge estate in Dundalk. 
    One gun attack this summer was a reckless and dangerous attack which could easily have cost the life of an innocent bystander. Criminals with paramilitary connections have allowed serious crime to become embedded in the region.

    http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/crime-desk/estate-of-fear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Is this a tv3 special with henry mckean?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    The toughest estate I ever was in was a ford escort one ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭Frogeye


    Mr_Muffin wrote: »
    Ireland does not have any really bad or 'rough' estates, everywhere is pretty safe.


    possibly the most naive post I have ever seen on boards....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    How the fcuk did they calculate that? Load of ****e.

    Stakeouts. "Oh look he has a tracksuit on him. 1 point. There's an empty can of Dutch Gold on the ground. 2 points. There's a group of teenagers with hoodies. 2 points."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    realies wrote: »
    The toughest estate I ever was in was a ford escort one ...

    Volvo, surely?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    Mr_Muffin wrote: »
    Ireland does not have any really bad or 'rough' estates, everywhere is pretty safe.

    I remember, before I moved to Dublin, being worried about the high crime. I had read that Dublin was the murder capital of Europe (or gun murder capital). Anyway, my wife and I were on the fence about moving here because of it.

    Then I looked up the per-capita murder rate:
    Dublin was like 2 per 100,000.
    My home town was 19 per 100,000.

    I felt pretty silly after that. Sure, there are parts of town I'd probably want to avoid at certain hours or whatever; but overall, I consider Ireland to be very safe.

    Maybe I just have low standards because of my childhood though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭boobar


    Lyrath Estate in Kilkenny....

    Got robbed there once


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    Toughest??
    Or scummiest???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I've been in Moyross once, it was pretty bad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭ardle1


    Who the fcuk wants to read that?!
    Certainly not the decent hard working people(of whom there are many)who come from those areas.


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