Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Smith614 · 23-11-2014 07:46PM

TTM.... U got it badly wrong again. Tiredness is used as an excuse in defeat. Matches are an advantage when on a roll and winning but it is an excuse when beaten. Kilmallock thought them a lesson in hurling and will to win.

ShamoBuc · 23-11-2014 08:36PM

Smith614 wrote: »

TTM.... U got it badly wrong again. Tiredness is used as an excuse in defeat. Matches are an advantage when on a roll and winning but it is an excuse when beaten. Kilmallock thought them a lesson in hurling and will to win.

I think there is some truth in what you say but last week Cratloe had a very engrossing and energy sapping Football match that also went to extra time -which they lost. Kilmallock had 2 weeks of just hurling training in the lead up.
That difference would certainly have had an effect on them today and in the extra time in particular Will to win was certainly not the difference. Cratloe were simply out on their feet totally at that point.

thinkstoomuch1 · 23-11-2014 08:56PM

I hope ballyhale win Leinster and they get to the final.
Now if Kilmallock beat them fair play, immense Credit to them.
I will laud them with praise.
I can't see it,I fear it could be a one sided final. Remember all things will be equal in ballyhale have same prepartion in the lead up to it.
They won't be tired.

Cratloe would been competive as they have pace to counter the direct approach ballyhale.
Kilmallock don't have pace and yes they are good under the high ball but simple point is like kilkenny ballyhale are just as strong if not better than Kilmallock at it.
The saving grace for Kilmallock is if a fast portumna beat ballyhale they could have a chance.
Its doubtful though.
Yes shocks happen but shefflin farewell will keep the focus.

Kilmallock wont have a hope in he'll of beating them if they meet.
They have poor forwards bar ghrame mulchay, Jake excellent today doesn't always do it though in big games.

Eoin Ryan poor from play again.
Paudie o brien had a fine game but Kilmallock imo are stuck between a rock and hard place keep o brien up their, but they will need him at half back to mark one of cha, fennellly and Reid.

Gavin O mahony has to come back also to half back.
Loughlin brothers at three at and six struggled to mark cussen and have conceded six goals in two games, tj Reid has destroyed most intercounty full and half backs like shefflin so they will crucify Kilmallock defence goal wise.

Now you put Gavin on fennellly, and o brien on tj Reid,they probably won't hold them but even so who holds cha fitzpatrick, who holds king henry.

Take Paudie and Gavin out of half forward then who limits fennellly at centre back from lording the skies.
Eoin Ryan or Jake mulchay wont do that.

Point is Kilmallock if they meat ballyhale have too many problems to solve with few options to solve them.
There a good club team in certain aeras but they have a lot of weak aeras and sarsfields if they were any good should of won.

Joey holden can mark mulchay If needs be and once he holds him to four points it will suffice.

Kilkenny club team will bring an intensity and drive and passion to match fury and fire of limerick, but so so much more in a cohesion, intelligent hurling game plan with a plan b and limerick direct style approach by Kilmallock like this year senior intercounty game will be meat and drink to ballyhale.

This Kilmallock team I may have been wrong have not been exposed just yet but if they play ballyhale, a team driven to give imo king henry he's farewell in I believe he will retire will absolutely blow this Kilmallock team away.
They want it for king henry.
Kilmallock were lucky Cratloe had dualism but they struggled to beat them.
In essence my point is both teams Kilmallock beat had their own weak aeras but yet had to go extra time.
They won't beat a ruthless ballyhale if they meat.
They must start paddy loughin.
He won't be playing harty cup as charville are out but it's ideal game for him as four week later he's out v cork minors.

Paddy is a terrific player, young but he's definitely able to start for these games.
With Gavin and Paudie if they go to defence,loughin could do a half forward midfield role.
Kilmallock wont beat them going fifteen v 15.
They will loose too many individuals battles.
Must play a sweeper but they won't

Smith you fail to understand the concepts of dualism in playing and training.
Cratloe have been training in hurling and football and playing for bones nine months in both codes, your novel fictional thoughts that it didn't catch up with them is just incorrect.,
You can train up hills Cratloe,go recovery ice baths in ul,take all vitamins,and eat all right food but there comes a time when you need a mental break and physical from the intensity of games or indeed any sport.
Cratloe club players had no such break in three weeks, all were close high intense physical games, of course it told.

Sonia sullivan a classic case in point, ran numerous personal best, world records etc, but peaked too soon up to atlanta and suffered the price of not being fresh.
How many times have lions rubgy tours relied on strength of a bench to help them in three back to back weeks.
These are professional, they eat,drink, sleep sport and recovery.

You have a club team here. Take out the intercounty lad's who would some how be prepared slightly better for burnout,you have ordinary club lad's playing train both weeks weeks after weeks, have work or college next day, your telling me they won't burn out you clearly haven't got any ideas demands concepts of the game now,and add ten per cent to demands as physical demands are more in winter

Wexford full of intercounty lad's proved that this year v limerick when dunne said they were out on their feet up to the game.

To break it down, if Joe blogs runs a marathon, he's most important week is actually he's taper week, hardest part for a runner is to ease off but it's got to be done.
You run your marathon you get a pb yes some enter another marathon straight after it maybee four weeks later but yes they will finish it as your body has acclimatised the fitness and endurance side of it and so too the mind to not give up and you'll finish it.But the speed in the legs is gone.
It takes recovery etc to build that up.
Now the Kenyon, ethopianans the elite runners can do it.
The average runner can't hes not professional to do it.

But you wont come anywhere near a pb, you will hit the dreaded wall sooner than you like and your fighting for survival not to break records.

Today Cratloe were that runner.A county struggles in dualism like cork, a small club had no chance.
It was just a matter of time in truth be told.

Between football and hurling they had ran too many marathons,once it went to extra time there were fighting at best to draw for survival they had no chance of winning.

Your oblivious to today's games if you though Cratloe were thought a hurling lesson, they drew at full time.
How were they thought a lesson.
Once it went to extra time they hadn't a hope of winning.
The only lesson they learned today is don't belive hype about dualism can work, in its just a matter of time before the demands catch up with you.

Cratloe between hurling and football had munster games the 26th, October, ninth of November, the 16th and today.
Kilmallock had just two.
Now delve deeper into to the clare championship they won the hurling the sixth October. Football the week after.
That's just from the county finals up, add in all the other games.
You see starting out in a season you get away with it,longer season goes on, boom boom, it catches up with them.

Crucially up to today's game it was Cratloe third game in a row.
Kilmallock had time to focus on this game,Cratloe didn't in had football last Saturday.
I watched Cratloe train. There all about touch and pace and movement. I saw the footballers train one evening, with core group lad's training hurling skills then trying to combine both one night.
A brave effort but you can't short cut to success.

Today espiceally in extra time they were static.If you think it had nothing to do with tiredness your wrong but each to their own.
Killmallock couldn't beat two teams, in two hours of hurling imo tells me there not great and certainly bearable.
If Cratloe had a week off they would imo won.

I don't blame players they couldn't give any more.
What's must be done is dualism has to be looked at in club games now as it's too competive even in schools to do both.
Cusack I didn't agree with then but he has a point players at a young age may have to choose,as it just can't be done nowadays in a successful sense.

citykat · 23-11-2014 09:26PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I hope ballyhale win Leinster and they get to the final.
Now if Kilmallock beat them fair play, immense Credit to them.
I will laud them with praise.
I can't see it,I fear it could be a one sided final. Remember all things will be equal in ballyhale have same prepartion in the lead up to it.
They won't be tired.

Cratloe would been competive as they have pace to counter the direct approach ballyhale.
Kilmallock don't have pace and yes they are good under the high ball but simple point is like kilkenny ballyhale are just as strong if not better than Kilmallock at it.
The saving grace for Kilmallock is if a fast portumna beat ballyhale they could have a chance.
Its doubtful though.
Yes shocks happen but shefflin farewell will keep the focus.

Kilmallock wont have a hope in he'll of beating them if they meet.
They have poor forwards bar ghrame mulchay, Jake excellent today doesn't always do it though in big games.

Eoin Ryan poor from play again.
Paudie o brien had a fine game but Kilmallock imo are stuck between a rock and hard place keep o brien up their, but they will need him at half back to mark one of cha, fennellly and Reid.

Gavin O mahony has to come back also to half back.
Loughlin brothers at three at and six struggled to mark cussen and have conceded six goals in two games, tj Reid has destroyed most intercounty full and half backs like shefflin so they will crucify Kilmallock defence goal wise.

Now you put Gavin on fennellly, and o brien on tj Reid,they probably won't hold them but even so who holds cha fitzpatrick, who holds king henry.

Take Paudie and Gavin out of half forward then who limits fennellly at centre back from lording the skies.
Eoin Ryan or Jake mulchay wont do that.

Point is Kilmallock if they meat ballyhale have too many problems to solve with few options to solve them.
There a good club team in certain aeras but they have a lot of weak aeras and sarsfields if they were any good should of won.

Joey holden can mark mulchay If needs be and once he holds him to four points it will suffice.

Kilkenny club team will bring an intensity and drive and passion to match fury and fire of limerick, but so so much more in a cohesion, intelligent hurling game plan with a plan b and limerick direct style approach by Kilmallock like this year senior intercounty game will be meat and drink to ballyhale.

This Kilmallock team I may have been wrong have not been exposed just yet but if they play ballyhale, a team driven to give imo king henry he's farewell in I believe he will retire will absolutely blow this Kilmallock team away.
They want it for king henry.
Kilmallock were lucky Cratloe had dualism but they struggled to beat them.
In essence my point is both teams Kilmallock beat had their own weak aeras but yet had to go extra time.
They won't beat a ruthless ballyhale if they meat.
They must start paddy loughin.
He won't be playing harty cup as charville are out but it's ideal game for him as four week later he's out v cork minors.

Paddy is a terrific player, young but he's definitely able to start for these games.
With Gavin and Paudie if they go to defence,loughin could do a half forward midfield role.
Kilmallock wont beat them going fifteen v 15.
They will loose too many individuals battles.
Must play a sweeper but they won't

Smith you fail to understand the concepts of dualism in playing and training.
Cratloe have been training in hurling and football and playing for bones nine months in both codes, your novel fictional thoughts that it didn't catch up with them is just incorrect.,
You can train up hills Cratloe,go recovery ice baths in ul,take all vitamins,and eat all right food but there comes a time when you need a mental break and physical from the intensity of games or indeed any sport.
Cratloe club players had no such break in three weeks, all were close high intense physical games, of course it told.

Sonia sullivan a classic case in point, ran numerous personal best, world records etc, but peaked too soon up to atlanta and suffered the price of not being fresh.
How many times have lions rubgy tours relied on strength of a bench to help them in three back to back weeks.
These are professional, they eat,drink, sleep sport and recovery.

You have a club team here. Take out the intercounty lad's who would some how be prepared slightly better for burnout,you have ordinary club lad's playing train both weeks weeks after weeks, have work or college next day, your telling me they won't burn out you clearly haven't got any ideas demands concepts of the game now,and add ten per cent to demands as physical demands are more in winter

Wexford full of intercounty lad's proved that this year v limerick when dunne said they were out on their feet up to the game.

To break it down, if Joe blogs runs a marathon, he's most important week is actually he's taper week, hardest part for a runner is to ease off but it's got to be done.
You run your marathon you get a pb yes some enter another marathon straight after it maybee four weeks later but yes they will finish it as your body has acclimatised the fitness and endurance side of it and so too the mind to not give up and you'll finish it.But the speed in the legs is gone.
It takes recovery etc to build that up.
Now the Kenyon, ethopianans the elite runners can do it.
The average runner can't hes not professional to do it.

But you wont come anywhere near a pb, you will hit the dreaded wall sooner than you like and your fighting for survival not to break records.

Today Cratloe were that runner.A county struggles in dualism like cork, a small club had no chance.
It was just a matter of time in truth be told.

Between football and hurling they had ran too many marathons,once it went to extra time there were fighting at best to draw for survival they had no chance of winning.

Your oblivious to today's games if you though Cratloe were thought a hurling lesson, they drew at full time.
How were they thought a lesson.
Once it went to extra time they hadn't a hope of winning.
The only lesson they learned today is don't belive hype about dualism can work, in its just a matter of time before the demands catch up with you.

Cratloe between hurling and football had munster games the 26th, October, ninth of November, the 16th and today.
Kilmallock had just two.
Now delve deeper into to the clare championship they won the hurling the sixth October. Football the week after.
That's just from the county finals up, add in all the other games.
You see starting out in a season you get away with it,longer season goes on, boom boom, it catches up with them.

Crucially up to today's game it was Cratloe third game in a row.
Kilmallock had time to focus on this game,Cratloe didn't in had football last Saturday.
I watched Cratloe train. There all about touch and pace and movement. I saw the footballers train one evening, with core group lad's training hurling skills then trying to combine both one night.
A brave effort but you can't short cut to success.

Today espiceally in extra time they were static.If you think it had nothing to do with tiredness your wrong but each to their own.
Killmallock couldn't beat two teams, in two hours of hurling imo tells me there not great and certainly bearable.
If Cratloe had a week off they would imo won.

I don't blame players they couldn't give any more.
What's must be done is dualism has to be looked at in club games now as it's too competive even in schools to do both.
Cusack I didn't agree with then but he has a point players at a young age may have to choose,as it just can't be done nowadays in a successful sense.

I think what will equally have done for Cratloe will be simply that they didn't do as much hurling as Kilmallock this year. If you're playing both codes, you couldn't possibly do as much hurling as the single code club. I imagine in the lead up to a football match, Cratloe will have been doing all football. The single code club will have hurled away that week. That's going to tell on you, at some stage, the further you go.

Rightwing · 23-11-2014 09:45PM

citykat wrote: »

I think what will equally have done for Cratloe will be simply that they didn't do as much hurling as Kilmallock this year. If you're playing both codes, you couldn't possibly do as much hurling as the single code club. I imagine in the lead up to a football match, Cratloe will have been doing all football. The single code club will have hurled away that week. That's going to tell on you, at some stage, the further you go.

Cratloe won a weak Clare, beat 14 man Ballygunner (who were on top at the time of the sending off) and a 14 man Thurles from the off.

Unproven and badly exposed today.

Hammer Archer · 23-11-2014 09:54PM

Guys, the clue is in the name. Cork GAA discussion thread.
There's a Club championships thread if you want to discuss clubs from other counties or instead if you're talking about a particular club from one county you can of course talk about them in their thread.

CORKDOUBLE · 24-11-2014 11:57AM

Just thinking out loud.....Andy Walsh is Killeagh as is Mark Landers.........Brian Murray is Bishopstown as is Johnny Crowley......Glen O Connor is St.Finbarrs as is JBM ......just saying like !! Miny you if O Connor is as tough as his sister he would be o.k. he was involved with the Minors when they last got to the All-Ireland final in 2007....

thinkstoomuch1 · 24-11-2014 01:01PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Just thinking out loud.....Andy Walsh is Killeagh as is Mark Landers.........Brian Murray is Bishopstown as is Johnny Crowley......Glen O Connor is St.Finbarrs as is JBM ......just saying like !! Miny you if O Connor is as tough as his sister he would be o.k. he was involved with the Minors when they last got to the All-Ireland final in 2007....

Murray has got a few runs Waterford Crystal cups etc before he's not up to what's required

Same with cork underage never stood out.
Fine in an open game no good in a battle

Andy walsh I don't see potential
Eoghhan kinery the minor is better
Glen o connor has potential and there is a bit of dog and bite to hes hurling

Jbm must look for that bit of dog in a player

Guy easterby was asked the same regards Tadhg furlong prospect in rubgy
He's exact word he used was he has a bit of dog in him ideal for battle

Cork have to realise fast tappy wristy elusive hurler is useless unless they have the dog within for a battle
Any player that plays for cork the question is who would survive v kilkenny as that's the standard
Who has the dog and fight within

Nash,cahalane, joyce,Ellis,kearney, walsh copper,harnedy, coughlan, cronin, mcdonnell, o Neill would I have no doubt.
There made for a battle.
Kearney also such a warrior never flinches

Lehane???? But we can not full judge as he's played out of position

Horgan?????

Lawton??
Roche??
Murray??
Haughney???

I have my doubts but I hope to be proven wrong with those
Luke o farrell has the talents but must prove he has the stomach for battle
Paudie sullivan is fine
Moylan possibly as a sub I'm not sure you can start him

Likes of Murphy, nagle, spillane all have hurling and aggression that you need

Looking through the panel so far Daire lordan look the best forward prospect in he's potential and for the ist time in cork get good coaching
Obviously pa Callaghan fits the bill

thinkstoomuch1 · 24-11-2014 01:15PM

CORKDOUBLE wrote: »

Just thinking out loud.....Andy Walsh is Killeagh as is Mark Landers.........Brian Murray is Bishopstown as is Johnny Crowley......Glen O Connor is St.Finbarrs as is JBM ......just saying like !! Miny you if O Connor is as tough as his sister he would be o.k. he was involved with the Minors when they last got to the All-Ireland final in 2007....

I don't think he has got anything do with clubs

If so Eoin keane would got more games

I think all three hurler who you mention and add Daniel Roche are the prototype fast hands stick work jbm, séanie mcgrath,and crowley crave as those three are hurling purists

Now I'm a hurling purist my self but beautiful hurling alone will not win cork all ireland

What should be remembered is cork have realistically three tough games to peak for to win an all ireland

They will never get a huge a chance as again in the back door

Waterford is the fourth game but I don't think they are any threat to cork once mcgrath stays

There is always a risk mcgrath got sacked in the lead up and Waterford had a backs to wall performance where every player plays above themselves brings huge intensity to the game

But if that happens cork once the intensity is matched they should win
Cork could not have asked for a better draw next year
Munster final I hope and want cork to loose it.
Irrelevant in the bigger scheme of things
Munster title means nothing now days, give me national hurling league title any day of the week now

Mountainlad · 24-11-2014 01:20PM

Lehane gets surprising amount of stick given what he contributed to Cork this year. Best forward bar none, I would imagine Harnedy would be next in line but he was missing v Clare and Tipp. Thought Lehane should have got man of the match v Limerick ahead of him as well.

Hes small, but other than that think he has absolutely everything and at only 22 reckon he'll definitely continue to prove himself as a huge player for Cork.

thinkstoomuch1 · 24-11-2014 01:25PM

Mountainlad wrote: »

Lehane gets surprising amount of stick given what he contributed to Cork this year. Best forward bar none, I would imagine Harnedy would be next in line but he was missing v Clare and Tipp. Thought Lehane should have got man of the match v Limerick ahead of him as well.

Hes small, but other than that think he has absolutely everything and at only 22 reckon he'll definitely continue to prove himself as a huge player for Cork.

I'm a huge fan of him always have been but he's played out of position

Ucc done the same last week to him, talking to a guy at it he was poor at full forwar
forward

There going to ruin this player

If hes played at ten he's fine but at fourteen he fades in and out of the game

He's better roaming and drifting in than staying on the square

If he doesn't perform coughlan is well able to do a job
Coughlan should get game time in the league even at midfield with walsh just to have cover for kearney
O shea like wise

Mountainlad · 24-11-2014 01:36PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I'm a huge fan of him always have been but he's played out of position

Ucc done the same last week to him, talking to a guy at it he was poor at full forwar
forward

There going to ruin this player

If hes played at ten he's fine but at fourteen he fades in and out of the game

He's better roaming and drifting in than staying on the square

If he doesn't perform coughlan is well able to do a job
Coughlan should get game time in the league even at midfield with walsh just to have cover for kearney
O shea like wise

Was he not playing at 10 all year for Cork?

Figsy32 · 24-11-2014 01:37PM

Mountainlad wrote: »

Lehane gets surprising amount of stick given what he contributed to Cork this year. Best forward bar none, I would imagine Harnedy would be next in line but he was missing v Clare and Tipp. Thought Lehane should have got man of the match v Limerick ahead of him as well.

Hes small, but other than that think he has absolutely everything and at only 22 reckon he'll definitely continue to prove himself as a huge player for Cork.

I think it's just there's so much obvious potential there that people are expecting too much from him a little too quickly. He drifts in and out of games a little and maybe isn't the most ruthless in terms of going for goals. Slightly frustrating but that's what happens with young players.

They're things that will come in time I'm sure though. No doubt he'll be a massive players for Cork for the next 10 years.

thinkstoomuch1 · 24-11-2014 01:38PM

Mountainlad wrote: »

Was he not playing at 10 all year for Cork?

He was listed there but in numerous games he went in for spells at full forward which Is ridiculous.
The lad needs space to utilise he's pace.

Mountainlad · 24-11-2014 01:43PM

Figsy32 wrote: »

I think it's just there's so much obvious potential there that people are expecting too much from him a little too quickly. He drifts in and out of games a little and maybe isn't the most ruthless in terms of going for goals. Slightly frustrating but that's what happens with young players.

They're things that will come in time I'm sure though. No doubt he'll be a massive players for Cork for the next 10 years.

Yeah agree 100% on goals. Cadogan is the exact same. They need to be coached to go for it more, you don't win games scoring points alone.

thinkstoomuch1 · 24-11-2014 02:09PM

Figsy32 wrote: »

I think it's just there's so much obvious potential there that people are expecting too much from him a little too quickly. He drifts in and out of games a little and maybe isn't the most ruthless in terms of going for goals. Slightly frustrating but that's what happens with young players.

They're things that will come in time I'm sure though. No doubt he'll be a massive players for Cork for the next 10 years.

There's a fair point there but he's now going on four years senior panel so he's not young inexperienced any more
You see padraig walsh, Tommy walsh, Paul Murphy doing it so young, aidan walsh in football Won two all stars young players of the year all at a young age.

Robbie henehshsw was just 21 in rubgy

Cork have a habit of making excuses for their own. Yes we should to a point but there comes a time when performances must be judged with ruthless conviction

I backed him against criticism for years but now he's what I would say entering peak years

I will excuse him if he's at full forward but otherwise no

He was brilliant v limerick and clare in the all ireland final he has the talents.
He needs consistency but to be fair hard to do when your moved about.

I would give him leniency but pat horgan is just taking the biscuit imo no excuse for this year.
Seven years around senior player,all star, vice captain once he's been appalling from play yet no one questions it.
Guaranteed he would not start under Brian cody he would be lucky to make the panel imo.

It's up to jbm now, to be ruthless with him.
Landers doesn't do reputations so hopefully he'll bust he's bubble and landers was limited hurling wise but gave everything to the cork jersey so I'm hoping he'll tell horgan what cork jersey means and there is a mininium standard expected in every game

Cork attuide has to change, fans, media, players, etc all have a part to play in defeats must be scrutinised more and none of the absolute nonense that went on after poor league displays last year.

Gavin o mahony gave a wonderful interview,absolutely brilliant to be fair to him in the Sunday paper yesterday, he said that the loss to kilkenny was a moral defeat to some and he didn't accept it but he said limerick still have that moral victory attitude and it's hard to change longer you don't win all irelands

What honesty, brilliant read.
I would love if a cork footballer said the same regards corks loss to mayo and blow this nonense one point loss to mayo was acceptable or progress
That moral victory nonense is in cork football and it's hard to change in because people are not ruthless enough to say it's not acceptable.
Some coaches, some fans, some media, cork county board mainly as it accepts mediocrity, some ex pundits,are not helping imo where they attuide to defeats is poor yet they still wonder year on year why cork football is not reaching potential

That attuide won't serve cork well and is hugely significant in why cork football will imo never be a true force as lot cork people don't set standards high and belive years failure we have no right to think higher

The hurling it's crept in to too.
That attuide must be blown away in cork
When cork got relegated it wasn't seen as a disaster
It should of been
When we had an absolute appalling league with no game reaching top form it was not questioned last year.
Such cork had this culture where the players were never pushed to consistently reach mininium performance standards of excellence and when cork were good they were brilliant but when they were bad they were awful and that inconsistency combined with poor team selections carried on from the league to championship.

Jbm has no no excuse if cahalane doesn't play full back as he's now hurling alone

thinkstoomuch1 · 24-11-2014 02:46PM

Any venue for Saturday's all ireland u16 final in hurling good counsel v midelton?? Anyone know please

Orizio · 24-11-2014 03:33PM

Corn Thomáis Mhic Choilm 18.5 B Hurling Quarter-Finals

Abbey CBS v CBC Cork
Col Spioraid Naomh v Clonakilty CC
Causeway CS v St Joseph’s Tulla
John The Baptist Hospital v Col Chriost Ri

thinkstoomuch1 · 24-11-2014 03:58PM

Abbey be tough to beat for old christians so good test for them and they will be better for these games

I'm not sure if current limerick hurler minors keeper and eligble next year Eoghhan McNamara is still there

They have won rice b and munster u15 b titles recently

They were harty a few years ago

They have current u21 coach limerick outstanding john kiely principle there

Darach o donnell ex limerick trainer son former cork stats man Eddie o donnell was teaching there I presume he Is there

There huge in to hurling there.
I would not be surprised if they have a very good team
Michael o halloran and billy hennessey are the old christian stars.
Both with real chance of starting for cork minors.
Most teams old christian played wouldn't be huge tests so far so abbey is a perfect draw as halloran and hennessey will thrive with better games.
Delighted with the draw

denishurley · 24-11-2014 04:25PM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Any venue for Saturday's all ireland u16 final in hurling good counsel v midelton?? Anyone know please

WIT, 2pm

dcrosskid · 24-11-2014 04:30PM

Is that vocational schools hurling ttm?

Are ye still confident of getting 5/6 teams into the harty qf? I think my old school Thurles will be hard bet, they have a strong team & also based on no facts whatsoever if there are that many Cork teams surely the quality can't be great. I don't mean that in a bad way but it stands to reason that the quality of Cork schools hurling must be diluted massively by the sheer amount of schools. Midleton would possibly be the strongest?

thinkstoomuch1 · 24-11-2014 05:39PM

denishurley wrote: »

WIT, 2pm

Thanks Denis as always

Great choice the all weather should be ideal delighted with that choice venue

Credit due in fairness splendid choice of venue

Breadandbutter · 24-11-2014 08:17PM

dcrosskid wrote: »

Is that vocational schools hurling ttm?

Are ye still confident of getting 5/6 teams into the harty qf? I think my old school Thurles will be hard bet, they have a strong team & also based on no facts whatsoever if there are that many Cork teams surely the quality can't be great. I don't mean that in a bad way but it stands to reason that the quality of Cork schools hurling must be diluted massively by the sheer amount of schools. Midleton would possibly be the strongest?

Midleton certainly the strongest on paper this year but tend to finish poorly and disappoint

Hamilton, Rochestown & Youghal are built more on heart, effort, each team with a few talented individuals

AG hopefully will be the surprise packet, ability and heart and a determination to put their school back on map - with a balanced spread of talent - complete with a cork senior panelist - some boast

I wouldn't agree about the dilution of talent - all these schools pulling from strong hurling clubs

What happened Templemore this year ????

Breadandbutter · 24-11-2014 08:42PM

Great to see Chriost Ri & Rochestown College in 16 1/2B Munster Final - Cork City local derby

Hopefully a rising tide

zetecescort · 24-11-2014 08:50PM

Mourneabbey v Termon, Senior club All Ireland Ladies football final in Tuam stadium at 2pm this sunday with deferred coverage in full on TG4

zetecescort · 24-11-2014 11:15PM

Wednesday 26th November
Corn Uí Mhuirí (Munster Post-Primary Schools Senior A Football)
All games 1.30pm unless stated otherwise

DLS Macroom V Coláiste Choilm Ballincollig @ Cloughduv
Tralee CBS V Clonakilty CC @ Clondrohid
St. Brendan's V Coláiste Na Sceilge @ Cromane
Mercy Mounthawk V St. Flannan's @ Rathkeale
St. Fachtna's Skibbereen V West Limerick Colleges @ Fitzgerald Stadium, 2:30pm
Rochestown V HS Clonmel @ Mourneabbey, 2:30pm
Coláiste Chriost Rí V IS Killorglin @ Knocknagree

thinkstoomuch1 · 25-11-2014 12:09AM

Ucc beat davy fit lit tonight in wet cold night in senior hurling league.
2-18 to2-14 around.
Cork wise cormac Murphy outstanding at midfield.Real aggression in he's hurling,lovely crisp charismatic hurling.
Rickard cahalane was good as was killan Burke.

Shane o donnell got a goal.Played well.
Alan cadogan was very good.
Conor lehane is indeed eligble fitzgibbon cup again I was unsure as he had graduated with an arts degree in summer but must be doing more in college as he played tonight
.

Tonight ucc played a him centre forward he was immense, winning ball, running at the defence,yes had a few wides but must got around six scores from play.
He was brilliant

Anthony spillane came on a sub and got goal and point.
He's everything you crave for in a full forward tough, mobile, aggressive,hungry. Real want, and has hurling.
He won lot aerial ball.
He has indeed got a call up to the Waterford crystals cup,brilliant news for cork.

He's u21 for the next two years so he's young but huge potential.
I have recently being doing a lot of querying on Damien irwin, he's a tremendous attention to detail I'm told and will be very good many astute gaa men former coaches and players I trust told me.
With liam Hayes cork u21 I'm gone from hopeful I'm confident now we are making progress at the grade.
Hallejiah amen at last.

Killeagh have lost two coaches to corkhurling in landers also and are looking for a coach them selves with Denis walsh ex cork manager apparently going to Killeagh

Imo id have doubts if they will be successful and they have talent but he's record is poor with cork and Catherines.
A lot of moving and shaking in club managerial scene.
Another east cork club set for a major coup.
Big city club looking outside the county. It remains to be seen what happens.
Should be some interesting announcements soon enough.

ShamoBuc · 25-11-2014 12:17AM

Think Irwin will do a good job. He is normally meticulous in what he does, come with his job I suppose. He is a real hurling man with an eye for detail.

Orizio · 25-11-2014 02:06AM

dcrosskid wrote: »

Are ye still confident of getting 5/6 teams into the harty qf? I think my old school Thurles will be hard bet, they have a strong team & also based on no facts whatsoever if there are that many Cork teams surely the quality can't be great. I don't mean that in a bad way but it stands to reason that the quality of Cork schools hurling must be diluted massively by the sheer amount of schools. Midleton would possibly be the strongest?

Cork schools are much of a muchness. One of Thurles/ASR are definite favourites to win it out. Can't rely on Midleton at all, wouldn't surprise me if Nenagh beat them. My old school doesn't do well with pressure, regardless of talent.

Browney7 · 25-11-2014 04:10AM

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Ucc beat davy fit lit tonight in wet cold night in senior hurling league.
2-18 to2-14 around.
Cork wise cormac Murphy outstanding at midfield.Real aggression in he's hurling,lovely crisp charismatic hurling.
Rickard cahalane was good as was killan Burke.

Shane o donnell got a goal.Played well.
Alan cadogan was very good.
Conor lehane is indeed eligble fitzgibbon cup again I was unsure as he had graduated with an arts degree in summer but must be doing more in college as he played tonight
.

Tonight ucc played a him centre forward he was immense, winning ball, running at the defence,yes had a few wides but must got around six scores from play.
He was brilliant

Anthony spillane came on a sub and got goal and point.
He's everything you crave for in a full forward tough, mobile, aggressive,hungry. Real want, and has hurling.
He won lot aerial ball.
He has indeed got a call up to the Waterford crystals cup,brilliant news for cork.

He's u21 for the next two years so he's young but huge potential.
I have recently being doing a lot of querying on Damien irwin, he's a tremendous attention to detail I'm told and will be very good many astute gaa men former coaches and players I trust told me.
With liam Hayes cork u21 I'm gone from hopeful I'm confident now we are making progress at the grade.
Hallejiah amen at last.

Killeagh have lost two coaches to corkhurling in landers also and are looking for a coach them selves with Denis walsh ex cork manager apparently going to Killeagh

Imo id have doubts if they will be successful and they have talent but he's record is poor with cork and Catherines.
A lot of moving and shaking in club managerial scene.
Another east cork club set for a major coup.
Big city club looking outside the county. It remains to be seen what happens.
Should be some interesting announcements soon enough.

I'd agree that Lehane at 14 is crazy stuff. Drawn all Ireland last year when the game looked to be slipping away from Cork (lehane was quiet that day too) the goal he got was immense. All the way from the hogan stand on the 45 to the other side of the field and a great goal. He needs a roaming role. Think 11 and switching into midfield throughout the game would be good for him.

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