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Cross kid
I think Ag will beat doon, once gunning has a central defender role and lee is centre forward and killan aherne start.
Gunning has to mark Colin Ryan under the high ball with Donovan on coleman.
Possibly could swap
Shane o connell limerick minor also played at half forward also last year is a fine centre back but lee has to mark him and stop him domination the game
Longergan is dangerous as a forward and jack Cummins is a fine full back but dan Gunning is sensational and him and sheehan with killan Doyle and lee can win it for Ag.Callaghan had a fine game last day but id drop him to full back, Eddie gunning is the man for this game
Doon are expierenced and Brendan bulger with them now as coach
Tadhg lordan and shorten and donal o grady as stats man with gould in the background. He's with u14 but he travels to the matches. Ag can qualify
Hamilton are qualified.
They wouldn't beat Ard scoil but against any cork team bar midelton again I think there's a big scalp in them aidan o donoughue has learned from noel crowley in coaching and in Bart o flynn, kelleher awesome Chris o leary at half back a midfield duo dream paternship of Luke meade and Jonathan mulchay, the in form cork development hurler dinneen a goal machine. Eoin reilly also they have more than just heart desire and courage and they have a scalp in them but may not win it outright.
Midelton yes got beaten, I was at another game but I'm told midelton had the game won but just stopped playing
It could be a blessing in disguise really as if they learn the golden rule that talent is useless without work rate from start to finish and imo it's actually not a bad result in huge expectation if they go unbeaten through the group but this will refocus them.
They just stopped hurling but apparently when they were good there were awesome
To say midelton don't handle pressure is inaccurate in an extent as with harty your dealing with specific age groups not a Club with constant group players and midelton proved they can more than handle pressure winning a dean ryan cup last year coming from nine points down and without garan manley and they won white cup and rice also so this group has players that won big games
Midelton won ist dean in twenty four years last year, ist white year before, the rice cups there building for a Harty cup and just a matter of time
Ard scoil proves it takes time to build
Nenagh are not great, hamilton beat them and nenagh barely beat Waterford team.
Also dean ryan cup has added a distraction to them but from Saturday its harty all the way.
From a well placed source in midelton there not too unduly worried as they know They can qualify and once they get to January they have a huge chance.
Ian cahill could be loss but with mellink,smith, o connor butty mccarthy,mcdonnell, manley. Landers. Looney,beausang and the leahy brothers they imo will beat Nenagh handy.
I have no fear for midelton.
Hamilton beat nenagh well In Buttevant.
Youghal done tremendously well to qualify already and once Darragh o brien goes to full with bobby mccarthy at corner back with deane and Murphy at half back and halloran at midfield with David abregendshor at centre forward with Declan dalton they have a chance to be competitive but it depends who they meet
Rochestown are unlikely to win it but once Daniel meaney comes back to midfield in January with majestic john O sullivan they have a midfield to match anyone, john cashman imperious at centre back, Griffin a fine full back underage next year for cork minors , cormack, powter and kingston up front they are a very very good team on their day
Colmans have a chance but have to beat Castletroy
The key is Shane walsh has to mark Barry Nash
Huge ask for the excellent Castlyons defender cork U16 niall o leary to mark expierenced Andrew la Touche Cosgrave so early.
Lorcan lyons also Is a key player and as good as Jeremy saich is lyons has expirence.
Dean linehan is a pacey player plays corner forward but corner back for cork but Brian Nash is a top corner back.
Colmans with noel crowley down their have a chance but there a young team, Castletroy have expierence and it may be next year before they really become a force
Thurles are good with robbie long and jack butler but imo I don't see them as favourites at all and imo outside ard scoil I'd see most teams on par with each other on a given day.I'm surprised Curtis from last year dean ryan team is not starting imo a fine player.
Thurles beat Ard scoil but ard scoil team that played them to team that played west colleges limerick was totally different in lynch at half forward hindered ard scoil v Thurles and the dynamic and balance of the team was all wrong
If he was centre back I don't think Thurles would have won and I explained in detail in harty thread why lynch Is imo better midfield or half back as not only is half back better balance but the forward have better balance imo with out lynch who imo is a brilliant hurlers.
Thurles drew with west limerick and flannans are building for the future so I wouldn't get carried with with results
Thurles won a good rice cup there in 2013 and they are doing good work to be fair but midelton beat them handy in last year dean ryan cup knock out game
Ard scoil have to be favourite but it's close between the rest
Castletroy are favourite to some but imo were very beatable by Ag mhuire and Ag can improve I don't think Castletroy have that scope.
Ag mhuire, midelton are corks best hope.
Youghal wont win it outright.
Hamilton with a kind draw could go a long way with out winning it and rochestown like wise
The Quater Final draw is key.
But with three teams qualified already in hammies, Youghal, rochestown, I do feel Ag can beat doon but its going to be close but I have no doubt midelton will beat Nenagh.
So at worst four cork teams dcrosskid with a realistic chance of a fifth and an outside chance with Colmans of a sixth.
To get four out of possible seven to qualify for the Quater finals as in one group their was three cork teams and only two can qualify out of the group would be brilliant to get five would be astonishing and to get six would be totally beyond any dreams and just breathtaking unbelievable.
It's been a great dean ryan and harty cup and munster b colleges for cork schools hurling so far imo.0 -
Lehane inside is on the face of it crazy but he'll end up in their again this year. We need manic work-rate from all of our midfielders and half-forwards - he doesn't offer that, and is at best inconsistent under puck-outs. So inside he'll go.
Playing at 14 for UCC really makes zero sense. He has never had a great eye for goals, like a lot of the Cork forwards. Huge problem JBM hasn't been able to overcome.0 -
super post as usual sir, a visit to Fermoy would be advisable this evening where St Colman's take on the Ag Mhuire in the semi final of the O' Callaghan cup. This will be a super game with Colman's looking to reverse the trend after their recent defeat in the Harty.
The Ag are building momentum and recent whispers from the Mon talk about Ferocious sessions on the mon field. The bulk of this team are from the Na Parsaigh Club and have played together through underage ranks.
Gunning and O' Callaghan in the backline are the foundation of this side the Half backs walsh from Na Parsaigh and O' Donavan from the glen are pacey and tenacious, The midfield with the impecable Liam Coughlan and workman like Eoin O'Leary is mobile and combatative. Up front is where the A0 -
super post as usual sir, a visit to Fermoy would be advisable this evening where St Colman's take on the Ag Mhuire in the semi final of the O' Callaghan cup. This will be a super game with Colman's looking to reverse the trend after their recent defeat in the Harty.
The Ag are building momentum and recent whispers from the Mon talk about Ferocious sessions on the mon field. The bulk of this team are from the Na Parsaigh Club and have played together through underage ranks.
Gunning and O' Callaghan in the backline are the foundation of this side the Half backs walsh from Na Parsaigh and O' Donavan from the glen are pacey and tenacious, The midfield with the impecable Liam Coughlan and workman like Eoin O'Leary is mobile and combatative. Up front is where the AG will have the edge over most sides, rumour has it Killian Ahern and Jamie Morissey will start this evening in the half forward line. Throw in Dane Lee, Evan Sheehan and the unplayable Dan Gunning then you have a forward line to be feared.
Colmans will need to impose themselves physically from the begining or they will have a difficult evening. Niall O' Leary was excellent in waterglasshill against the Ag and he will have to be on top of his game. The match up of O'leary vs Morrisey or Ahern should be something to see. Personally I would drop O'Leary back to pick up Dan Gunning as left unmarshalled he can destroy teams. Jeremy Siach will need to be on the top of his game this evening undoubtly talented his battle with Coughlan will be piviotal. Killian Ahern will also need to be marshaled if he gets possesion he sprays passes cross field with unerring accuracy. He can find club mates sheehan and Gunning at will. A thouroughly enjoy able game in prospect this evening.0 -
super post as usual sir, a visit to Fermoy would be advisable this evening where St Colman's take on the Ag Mhuire in the semi final of the O' Callaghan cup. This will be a super game with Colman's looking to reverse the trend after their recent defeat in the Harty.
The Ag are building momentum and recent whispers from the Mon talk about Ferocious sessions on the mon field. The bulk of this team are from the Na Parsaigh Club and have played together through underage ranks.
Gunning and O' Callaghan in the backline are the foundation of this side the Half backs walsh from Na Parsaigh and O' Donavan from the glen are pacey and tenacious, The midfield with the impecable Liam Coughlan and workman like Eoin O'Leary is mobile and combatative. Up front is where the AG will have the edge over most sides, rumour has it Killian Ahern and Jamie Morissey will start this evening in the half forward line. Throw in Dane Lee, Evan Sheehan and the unplayable Dan Gunning then you have a forward line to be feared.
Colmans will need to impose themselves physically from the begining or they will have a difficult evening. Niall O' Leary was excellent in waterglasshill against the Ag and he will have to be on top of his game. The match up of O'leary vs Morrisey or Ahern should be something to see. Personally I would drop O'Leary back to pick up Dan Gunning as left unmarshalled he can destroy teams. Jeremy Siach will need to be on the top of his game this evening undoubtly talented his battle with Coughlan will be piviotal. Killian Ahern will also need to be marshaled if he gets possesion he sprays passes cross field with unerring accuracy. He can find club mates sheehan and Gunning at will. A thouroughly enjoy able game in prospect this evening.
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Breadandbutter wrote: »Midleton certainly the strongest on paper this year but tend to finish poorly and disappoint
Hamilton, Rochestown & Youghal are built more on heart, effort, each team with a few talented individuals
AG hopefully will be the surprise packet, ability and heart and a determination to put their school back on map - with a balanced spread of talent - complete with a cork senior panelist - some boast
I wouldn't agree about the dilution of talent - all these schools pulling from strong hurling clubs
What happened Templemore this year ????
I don't think Templemore were that strong this year, they were very young but next year they should be good. I think they would have said that themselves. Their 2 main clubs that they pull from, Loughmore & Templemore were only in the B in minor. They have a few good hurlers from Drom who had a very strong minor team this year though. Midleton beat them by a point in the Dean Ryan final is all & I don't think they hurled anywhere near their potential from what I heard (maybe they weren't let). Thurles lost in extra time to Templemore & were missing a very good hurler from my own club who was recovering from a broken collar bone. Another 2 weeks & he might have played i'd say.
Midleton seem to be Cork's biggest hope this year by the sounds of it. Ard Scoil are still the team everyone will be looking to avoid.0 -
Lehane inside is on the face of it crazy but he'll end up in their again this year. We need manic work-rate from all of our midfielders and half-forwards - he doesn't offer that, and is at best inconsistent under puck-outs. So inside he'll go.
Playing at 14 for UCC really makes zero sense. He has never had a great eye for goals, like a lot of the Cork forwards. Huge problem JBM hasn't been able to overcome.
That's not a valid excuse that work rate is not up to it so we facilitate you inside in full forward
No no no simply no.
If he won't work hard at half forward it's simple you start coughlan who will,who will get stuck in and will run hard and score
Coughlan can score goals too
Troubled by a back injury he's finally clear of it
Lehane I din think will start inside as surely to christ they can see he's better outfield
They want a full forward then they should fast track Anthony spillane
He has it all
He needs time but proper coaching he could do an Austin glesson, Walter walsh and Brian cocranan, rock, Joe kavanagh at just 19
Colm Spillane was going to be tried as a forward but he's injured again with knee trouble likely to be recovering til January
Terrific player but unlucky with injury
Unlikely he'd feature in Waterford Crystal cup
Cahalane must start at full back with dennehy getting game time in the Waterford crystals if hes there
Morrisey seven is some player cork u15 this year I think
Ag have to readjust the team slightly but with o grady doing the stats surely he will tell them what they need to do
That should be a good game any one at it can they post a link0 -
Brian mcgrath will be sensational I mark my word'sI don't think Templemore were that strong this year, they were very young but next year they should be good. I think they would have said that themselves. Their 2 main clubs that they pull from, Loughmore & Templemore were only in the B in minor. They have a few good hurlers from Drom who had a very strong minor team this year though. Midleton beat them by a point in the Dean Ryan final is all & I don't think they hurled anywhere near their potential from what I heard (maybe they weren't let). Thurles lost in extra time to Templemore & were missing a very good hurler from my own club who was recovering from a broken collar bone. Another 2 weeks & he might have played i'd say.
Midleton seem to be Cork's biggest hope this year by the sounds of it. Ard Scoil are still the team everyone will be looking to avoid.
Playing harty also
So too will ryan, o shea and fair brother for our lady's
There a superb team and we'll coached
If they play midelton ten times both could win five each
Nothing between them
They will be very strong at harty cup next year
Mcgrath at just young age is going to be unreal he's better than noel at that age
What reading and appreciation of the game so young.0 -
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Brian mcgrath will be sensational I mark my word's
Playing harty also
So too will ryan, o shea and fair brother for our lady's
There a superb team and we'll coached
If they play midelton ten times both could win five each
Nothing between them
They will be very strong at harty cup next year
Mcgrath at just young age is going to be unreal he's better than noel at that age
What reading and appreciation of the game so young.
Brian McGrath is excellent, but I don't really want to go comparing him to Noel as that might not be fair on him at his age. He is very young yet but I will say Noel was one of the best underage talents I have ever seen.
I am surprised you haven't mentioned Stephan Nolan in any report from the Dean Ryan final ttm. He would be seen as the best of them all at that age group. Scored 2.5 from play in the semi & was the standout player I was told that day. That is one of the reasons I think they under performed in the final.0 -
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Yeah I mentioned him in the preview he's outstanding playerBrian McGrath is excellent, but I don't really want to go comparing him to Noel as that might not be fair on him at his age. He is very young yet but I will say Noel was one of the best underage talents I have ever seen.
I am surprised you haven't mentioned Stephan Nolan in any report from the Dean Ryan final ttm. He would be seen as the best of them all at that age group. Scored 2.5 from play in the semi & was the standout player I was told that day. That is one of the reasons I think they under performed in the final.
It just did not happen for him on the day to hes usual standard but he still worked hard etc and was good but he was held in the second half
But it was poor condition ground also
I don't say players played bad that age as it's still very young age
At senior I'm more ruthless in annalise
Nolan is a fine player and will be very good next year
He was up against a titanic half back line in meara,mcdonnell and conville not many get better them
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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Midelton 1-10 to 12
Team same as semifinal
Ross walsh
Adam daly
Sean o leary Hayes
Ed leahy
Sean o meara
Jack mcdonnell
Rysn kenneally
Daire Crotty captain
Brendan twomey
Padraig o brien
Andy leahy
Charlie terry
Chris power
Chris keegan
Liam gosnell
Liam o shea like I said done great job as sub in preview
This games would been classic bit for heavy rain last few days
It panned out how I thought and immense Credit management getting subs spot on match up right match up pretty much as my preview turned out as I thought
As photos zetecescort showed from twitter ground you can see photo is wet
It ten times worse photo
Ross walsh varied puck outs well solid under high ball, fine game
Ed leahy was given tough game by majestic fair brother from play
I said he was class tipp hurler
He is brilliant but leahy grew I'n to game had brilliant game held him four play as good anyone done
Leahy had brilliant game against brilliant opponent.
Sean o leary Hayes made awesome catches clearance back
Adam daly tidy efficient composesd
Sean o meara had great game, mcdonnell brilliant centre back play exhibitions of centre back play and Nolan a fine player was held by awesome mcconville
Mcconville fine game
Twomey had a great shift tired conditions so replaced but had a terrific game.
Crotty so strong helped defence second half against wind like seventh defender
Captain led by example great leadership
Not day for forwards but o brien and and terry put in great hour winning dirty ball and helping midfield
Terry two brilliant points
Andy leahy didn't score but awesome game against wonderful Brian mcgrath who done all could team,and mcgrath hurled some amount ball but leahy limited he's influence, won ball and broke ball, chased everything an epic epic like I said it would be battle between two hurlers superb future
Mcgrath is class
Chris power not starter start year but today did, great old style goal ist time pull at crucial time as our lady's got two points lead and midelton needed to go ahead huge wind ist half once got goal never went behind or level they held on
That early goal huge significance
One huge point also
Keegan won lot ball and only cadell brilliant save had goal
Liam gosnell what a game impressive from frees, accurate and two from play chased and harried every ball and created so much
They never panicked and huge huge win
Mcgrath, Nolan, morrisey both Ryans,brilliant Fairbrother and o shea at midfield superb games
Shame hadn't dry ground as would bwen classic
Our lady's well coached nothing at all between teams and teams could meet ten times both win five
Midelton deserves win
Two in row, and next year just four games stand between them and only second ever team with Colmans for three in row dean's
That's for another day but next batch rice winners this year etc coming up they have every chance and few this panel eligible next year
Wonderful day cork hurling and credit to them and indeed our lady's for brilliant games does this historic magnificent competition justice.
Thank you to both teams
Well done midelton
16 hurlers, 16 warriors and 16 heroes with all panel members also deserving huge credit also and tim collins and alwuyn kearney take a bow wonderful coaches.
What day for the school and cork hurling
Let's every cork man woman child east west south, North, city etc unite and celebrate wonderful day for cork hurling and immense Credit to midelton.
Amazing breathtaking brilliant I'm lost for words to magnify wonderful win today from midelton.
Two key losses imo also regards underage that people have forget In cork hurling
Cunningham Is a loss not just in not being with senior team etc but he's gone from u15 but not just that he was like a peefromancs director in a way as he has group coaches young like noel furlong carrigtwohill and Declan Fitzgerald Buttevant Ul from fresher team that he tutoring among others
Fitzgerald has expierence but you can always learn guys like ger blue etc
Great coaching always continue to learn, they do evolution not stationery in their progress.
Furlong will still learn from role at ucc but ger loss Is huge to cork underage and remember minors had u17 for ist time under guidance so landers if leaves he's is a huge loss so huge positions to be filled in cork hurling imo.
Landers goes huge void to fill
I'd put Fitzgerald in their.
He will learn from ger cunningham Ul laois top coach, if ger has him he must rate him
Also was limerick minors coach 2005 all ireland final, had U21 in2007 also and was with drom inch this year and from Being very poor last year ran champions sarsfields to three points with fourteen men
He would seen Brian lohan,Eoin brislane etc coach at ul and Is teaching Castletroy College so knows limerick seen well what strengths are
Worked at U21 limerick with current games manager limerick noel hartigan so he would know limerick scene well and its not bad thing seen as we meet next year and will imo will meet in the semi final.
Would worked with Castletroy school harty etc down years got them to harty cup Quater Final recently so has minor, u21, college and school expierence.
Ticks boxes for me while landers huge loss he Is best to come in worked with cork U16share these guys in 2013 as selector in he familiar with cahill, looney, Darragh o brien, dunne, halloran, hennessey,smith, kingston, tim. O mahony etc
If pat mulchay wasn't available then I'd get Fitzgerald.
He's good coach and from what I hear good feedback.
Denis ring would be well aware of him having played under ring in harty cup at minor winning team at Colmans
In fact coach of limerick minors beaten by cork 2005 munster final to cork coached by ring.
He was part cork u 15 victouros set up with landers this year
Young but expierenceed.
I did mention Nolan in match report after dean ryan cross kid0 -
super post as usual sir, a visit to Fermoy would be advisable this evening where St Colman's take on the Ag Mhuire in the semi final of the O' Callaghan cup. This will be a super game with Colman's looking to reverse the trend after their recent defeat in the Harty.
The Ag are building momentum and recent whispers from the Mon talk about Ferocious sessions on the mon field. The bulk of this team are from the Na Parsaigh Club and have played together through underage ranks.
Gunning and O' Callaghan in the backline are the foundation of this side the Half backs walsh from Na Parsaigh and O' Donavan from the glen are pacey and tenacious, The midfield with the impecable Liam Coughlan and workman like Eoin O'Leary is mobile and combatative. Up front is where the A
Ag will win this handy tonight would like to see them in a final with Middleton , I heard last week that Shane Walsh had two broken fingers so their job has been made easier
Tonight should be a nice run out for ag ahead of there match against doon next week0 -
You going Saturday goal mouth???Ag will win this handy tonight would like to see them in a final with Middleton , I heard last week that Shane Walsh had two broken fingers so their job has been made easier
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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »You going Saturday goal mouth???
No I will be in Manchester for the match against hull0 -
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Doon won great results for Ag mhuire and colmans
Yes doon and Castletroy will go all out to win the crucial two cup finals but they always had to beat the best anyway but now it's very much in their own hands
Wasn't at the game but I said Castletroy were not unbeatable and in fact quite beatable.
The harty cup is very competitive and nothing between the teams bar ard scoil possibly.
Castletroy are limited once you hold Nash and Cosgrave
Doon according to twitter Barry Murphy got ten out of 15 points
Hold him and ryan Ag can win
Match ups are crucial though in the match.
Colmans have inexperienced team v Castletroy so they have huge ask but still have a chance
Ag mhuire can certainly beat doon.
Great results cork wise despite the nonense it was better Castletroy won it's better as said in the harty cup thread.
Incorrect,some clearly have no idea what there talking about.
Great results for Ag and colmans in two cup finals v Castletroy and doon win them there through0 -
Colmans a draw v Castletroy their through as if it goes to head to head there equal and the huge win 5-11 to six v dls gives them huge scoring difference better than Castletroy
If other game is draw
Must win for Castletroy now
If all two games draw its point difference I think separates them then Ag and colmans go through
I didn't add up properly just in my head but I think I'm right
Castletroy and doon scoring difference Is inferior to cork teams.
I'll do it later properly If time0 -
Ag will win this handy tonight would like to see them in a final with Middleton , I heard last week that Shane Walsh had two broken fingers so their job has been made easier
Tonight should be a nice run out for ag ahead of there match against doon next week
Shane Walsh will be playing tonight. Had cork minor football trial last Sunday.0 -
Rebel norrie wrote: »Shane Walsh will be playing tonight. Had cork minor football trial last Sunday.
Unlucky he didn't make hurling may down line
Terrific hurler I think he's good at football but there's better players available imo0 -
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Anyone at the game???
Do a report please
I was at another game tonight cold night to be out.0 -
Only caught the last 20 mins but North mon just looked physically stronger across the pitch. Some good defending at times when needed. Good crowd there0
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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Sound horse
It seemed close??
Any idea of the teams
Good work out for both teams for next week
I don't man like I said I was giving blood before so couldn't make the start and when I did get in there was nowhere to park.0 -
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bad night for hurling tough dour game. A master class from The gunning brothers. eddie unflappable as usual and dan 2-2 from play.
colmans tried hard but could not match the mon in the strenght department. O'leary - Ahern clash superb from both could call it a draw. Aherns work rate unreal and so dangerous when moving forward and distributing. O leary tenacious and pacey worth going to see these two match up. saich ineffective too light. D0 -
bad night for hurling tough dour game. A master class from The gunning brothers. eddie unflappable as usual and dan 2-2 from play.
colmans tried hard but could not match the mon in the strenght department. O'leary - Ahern clash superb from both could call it a draw. Aherns work rate unreal and so dangerous when moving forward and distributing. O leary tenacious and pacey worth going to see these two match up. Saich ineffective too light. Dane lee no show despite 2 points from play no work rate. O Callaghan steady for the mon. The Ag will have up a gear to get past Doon.0 -
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Super post thank you seventh from a real hurling man like your self great to be in such companybad night for hurling tough dour game. A master class from The gunning brothers. eddie unflappable as usual and dan 2-2 from play.
colmans tried hard but could not match the mon in the strenght department. O'leary - Ahern clash superb from both could call it a draw. Aherns work rate unreal and so dangerous when moving forward and distributing. O leary tenacious and pacey worth going to see these two match up. Saich ineffective too light. Dane lee no show despite 2 points from play no work rate. O Callaghan steady for the mon. The Ag will have up a gear to get past Doon.
Gunning sounds sensational
Worry lee is poor again
He has the talents but he must change he's attitude
Where did lee play!?
Has to be centre forward
Ahern surely sweet lord jesus played him self on team next week
Disappointed hear bout saich but he will develop he's still young two years at this level left
Where did Eddie play three or six
Were both teams similar harty cup sides
How did even sheehan play0
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