**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

mikom wrote: »

Was it this he said........



I hope what Beaner1 said is not overlooked by the guardians of the peace.
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You can always dial the Garda Confidential Line - 1800 666111 to ensure that it’s followed up.

Does anyone have a link to the first part of this thread? I don't seem to be able to find it.

Has it been removed?

My name is URL wrote: »

Does anyone have a link to the first part of this thread? I don't seem to be able to find it.

Has it been removed?

this it?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=91288802

branie2 wrote: »

Ever meet a friendly guard?

Yes

listermint wrote: »

Address the points above, Address the points as to why 1/4 Million people have taken to the streets.

All right I’ll bite.

Short answer is that the reasons you cite are NOT the reasons so many people are protesting. That can be plainly demonstrated by the fact that every single sin you cite has happened before and people didn’t care, or at least not enough to protest in large numbers. And they didn’t because times were good for them. That short sightedness in our collective make up may be a flaw, a fatal one at that, but that is how it is.

(Granted, yours is a commonly made error. Most laughably with the many people who think that FF were hammered at the last GE because the people suddenly acquired a distaste for low standards in high office. Utterly preposterous of course – the economy tanked – FF got a pasting, simple as that.)

Times are not good for many people now, very bad for many in fact, and that is why they are unhappy and protesting. All of the things you cite may fuel their anger but it is not the root cause.

If the protests against metered water were a runaway success (IW disbanded, all the waste somehow undone, all of the big shots from Enda down out on their ear) you would still have to address the root cause.

And the root cause it that we encountered a 20 billion deficit in our budget a few years back and there was simply no way to deal with that that was not going to place an enormous burden on the majority of people. And metered water, whilst a good idea, is a consequence of and is only now being considered because of the crash.

So I’ll ask you again. What route would you have taken 5 years ago that would not have lead to substantially as much hardship for people as we currently have?

And if the protest against metered water is as successful as you could hope for, what would you propose we do next, that would not impose the same collective total of hardship on the people?

And moral victory type solutions that start with “At least the people …” won’t cut it. Do / did you have a better way? One where people would have suffered less?

That’s a rhetorical question. You don’t. Every time that question is put it goes unanswered. What we will get is childish calls of shill and pretence that various unsavoury issues surrounding the setup and operation of IW are the problem rather than a mere propellant that fuels the anger.

Brendan Ogle is on the News talking about the protests

gladrags wrote: »

Kenny calls protesters kidnappers.

The so called leader of this country,again shows no leadership,by resorting to comments that will only alienate, and agitate,a volatile situation.

Instead of using the opportunity to try to resolve the issue, and show empathy,he resorts to petty and irresponsible remarks.

Which will only cause further division.

It does not have it in him.

Won't be long more now he will get a chance to talk to the kidnappers in Sligo

https://www.facebook.com/SligoSaysNo/posts/650190751764541

If all of this “Facebooking” continues it will not be long before the government includes Facebook into the great firewall of Ireland filter!