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**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

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  • #2462
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,132 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Because one charge goes to the state, the other to Irish Water.



    I've no doubt there are genuine people who believe it would be better but I just consider them misguided.

    Wasn't the LPT used to finance the set up of IW?

    Hardly completely separate enities now are they?

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #2463
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    They did. But they also had three articles (that I read) that were critical of FG / the government. Also odd if they are a mouthpiece for the same.

    You must be confusing the odd opinion piece that makes it in verus the dedicated articles.

    Plenty of agenda there


  • #2464
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    I agree with metered water charges
    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Complete and utter bull crap. I never said any such thing. And FYI I know the area very well as I said. Delicate much?

    You can backpedal all you like but the evidence is there. And no I'm not particularly delicate, I just call people out on predjudice and other forms of ignorance when I see it. You know the area well yet your posts are littered with misinformation( that's being kind tbh)


  • #2465
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    They are hostile to SF certainly. But supporters of FG?

    Who said they are supporters of FG?


  • #2466
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    EazyD wrote: »
    You can backpedal all you like but the evidence is there.

    Post the "evidence" then.


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  • #2467
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    It's my observation. And I stand 100% by what I said which is not what you said that I said.

    And very few who actually know the area will disagree with me.

    Funny that I live up the road. Strange my good friend is marrying a girl from there.

    I've been in and out of the area all my life.


    Oh and she has a business degree. But sure whatever your having yourself

    Anymore nonsense to add?


  • #2468
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Stargate wrote: »
    In fairness to you Phoebas , i just seen something in the link .
    Maybe i am reading too much into it , but hey ?

    The word " ALTERNATES " and " JOBESTOWN+1" appears in the link address.


    The photo in my opinion does look a bit iffy , don't know if you read the link or just copied and pasted ?

    Not saying you deliberately mislead anyone , not saying that . I think you posted the foto in good faith.
    I didn't mislead anyone - deliberately or otherwise. There is now a corroborating video published by a rival newspaper. #eggonface


  • #2469
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,132 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I was responding to someone else who mentioned it.

    No they did not.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #2470
    twowheelsgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭twowheelsgood


    listermint wrote: »
    Clearly doesn't read it.
    No I don't apart from some online content. I think the only people who read the Sunday Independent are republicans, so that they can be outraged by what they read. :pac:


  • #2471
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    I agree with metered water charges
    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    It's my observation. And I stand 100% by what I said which is not what you said that I said.

    And very few who actually know the area will disagree with me.

    No it's not. I know Jobstown extremely well and I am telling you right now a good portion of those protesting are unemployed. Note I have not said majority but that would not surprise me.


    People should get real here particularly in these areas. There is a class of people in this country who want to subvert this state. Some are republican and some are just common gurriers. These are dangerous people. They don't give a damn about your water charges or anything else. They want to cause trouble and get their representatives in the dail. They want any pragmatic government out. All these loose groups of leeches do and all they have ever done is take from us and involve themselves in criminality.

    (That's what you posted, call it an observation, most would call it pure nonsense.)


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  • #2472
    twowheelsgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭twowheelsgood


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Who said they are supporters of FG?
    Well in the IW business, if they are critical of FG as well as protesters, where is the bias?


  • #2473
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    No I don't apart from some online content. I think the only people who read the Sunday Independent are republicans, so that they can be outraged by what they read. :pac:

    You said originally that you can't see any bias.


  • #2474
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    Well in the IW business, if they are critical of FG as well as protesters, where is the bias?

    They'll have a Sinn Fein link to that 'dick who threw the brick' by tomorrow.


  • #2475
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    You (and quote a few more here) believe the Independent is biased. (Personally I don't see it but I only read parts of what they put up online).

    So it is of interest to know how you came to conclude that they are bias.

    Put it this way. Up until very recently, (around about the time water meter installation began) the Indo was believed by many (including maryanne) to be nothing more than an "FF rag".

    Of course, that's what they referred to it as, when they had an obvious dislike for certain members of the coalition (Hogan in particular) and were usually quick of the mark to publish damning stories (hogan's Portuguese service charge, Reilly in stubbs) etc.

    Now, I'm not saying they've went all blue shirt all of a sudden, but hey, they're certainly going nuclear with the anti water meter slurs.

    Coincidental obviously, and I'm sure the fact that Dennis OBrien is involved in the media outlet and GMC Sierra is in no way connected whatsoever, no sirreee.


  • #2476
    In Lonesome Dove
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 479 ✭✭In Lonesome Dove


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I was responding to someone else who mentioned it.

    I never mentioned welfare in my post that you quoted.


  • #2477
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    They'll have a Sinn Fein link to that 'dick who threw the brick' by tomorrow.

    Sure I thought you said that was all a fake? :confused:


  • #2478
    twowheelsgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭twowheelsgood


    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    You said originally that you can't see any bias.
    I am obviously talking about bias in the IW business. What does it matter if they are biased against SF? Don't the anti crew insist that there numbers are made up by a cross section of the country and explicitly deny that republicans are setting the agenda?


  • #2479
    my friend
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Public order units need to unleash on these pay for nothing multigenerational dole heads

    Gardai and Government have my full support after Murphy and associates antics today.

    The ne'er do wells should be careful in provoking social unrest, the pay for everything hard working taxpayers are ready to rise against them


  • #2480
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Highflyer13 wrote: »
    Well said, I find it sickening to see Mairia Cahill being used as a political football by parties who have historically had a part to play in the many abuse scandals over the years. People are seeing right through it.
    Red Pepper wrote: »
    `
    Fair point, I have emailed 2 ministers and 1 TD about the timing of the terms of reference for the Mother and Baby inquiry and all I got was fob offs and excuses. They were supposed to deal with this before the summer recess.

    Sure didnt' 48 people die in the avoidable Stardust tragedy which FF covered up yet they want you to ignore that and a hell of a lot more kills while they go on about a 600 year old problem in the North which was extremely difficult to resolve and about which Unionists are much more forgiving ironically. And FG and Labour are not much different. All the parties have blood on their hands. Each sin from one is matched by another. The small things which impress me is current attitudes. And as I take the Red Pill, I am finding respectable attitudes lacking in parties I used to vote for. If the other parties exclude themselves from the ballot sheet, they have only themselves to blame if whoever remains gets their seats.


  • #2481
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    Sure I thought you said that was all a fake? :confused:

    No, I've admitted my mistake a few ages back.


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  • #2482
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Phoebas wrote: »
    Sure I thought you said that was all a fake? :confused:

    Headlines tomorrow 150000 dissident republicans throw single brick at squad car. Irish Water protestors shame


  • #2483
    twowheelsgood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭twowheelsgood


    Banjo String wrote: »
    Put it this way. Up until very recently, (around about the time water meter installation began) the Indo was believed by many (including maryanne) to be nothing more than an "FF rag".

    Of course, that's what they referred to it as, when they had an obvious dislike for certain members of the coalition (Hogan in particular) and were usually quick of the mark to publish dating stories (hogan's Portuguese service charge, Reilly in stubbs) etc.

    Now, I'm not saying they've went all blue shirt all of a sudden, but hey, they're certainly going nuclear with the anti water meter slurs.

    Coincidental obviously, and I'm sure the fact that Dennis OBrien is involved in the media outlet and GMC Sierra is in no way connected whatsoever, no sirreee.
    Well, as I already said, that's not what I read last Sun. I read three stories hostile to FG (I didn't read any of the anti SF ones, but I am told they were there)


  • #2484
    arse..biscuits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭arse..biscuits


    I agree with metered water charges
    my friend wrote: »
    Public order units need to unleash on these pay for nothing multigenerational dole heads

    Gardai and Government have my full support after Murphy and associates antics today.

    The ne'er do wells should be careful in provoking social unrest, the pay for everything hard working taxpayers are ready to rise against them

    I think you'll find most of the protesters are the "pay for everything hard working taxpayers"


  • #2485
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    I agree with metered water charges
    my friend wrote: »
    Public order units need to unleash on these pay for nothing multigenerational dole heads

    Gardai and Government have my full support after Murphy and associates antics today.

    The ne'er do wells should be careful in provoking social unrest, the pay for everything hard working taxpayers are ready to rise against them

    Oh ffs, not another:/


  • #2486
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    No, I've admitted my mistake a few ages back.

    After she'd cadged a lift in my chopper....


  • #2487
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    my friend wrote: »
    the pay for everything hard working taxpayers

    You got one thing right. We paid for banksters. We paid for corruption and cronies. We are not paying for anything more. We already paid for pensions, golden parachutes and perks for the government which bankrupted us . Now we pay for those same perks and ''teachers pension'' Kenny's ride into sunset while the same Kenny and Gimmemore broke all election promises. ''Labours Way or Frankfurts way'' - anyone remember those words of wisdom from a treacherous snake whos IQ is inversely proportional to his waist measurement ?


  • #2488
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,230 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    my friend wrote: »
    Public order units need to unleash on these pay for nothing multigenerational dole heads

    Gardai and Government have my full support after Murphy and associates antics today.

    The ne'er do wells should be careful in provoking social unrest, the pay for everything hard working taxpayers are ready to rise against them

    There hasn't been a single counter demonstration or public showing of solidarity with IW to date.

    I take it from your post that you'll put an end to that and take to the streets in a crusade against those opposing it?

    No..? Didn't think so


  • #2489
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,132 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    twowheelsgood wrote: »
    I am obviously talking about bias in the IW business. What does it matter if they are biased against SF? Don't the anti crew insist that there numbers are made up by a cross section of the country and explicitly deny that republicans are setting the agenda?

    Republicans are setting the agenda?

    henceforth they shall be known as the
    Provisional anti-irish water association or P.A.I.W.A for short.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #2490
    Pocoyo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Pocoyo


    I agree with metered water charges
    masculinist wrote: »
    You got one thing right. We paid for banksters. We paid for corruption and cronies. We are not paying for anything more. We already paid for pensions, golden parachutes and perks for the government which bankrupted us . Now we pay for those same perks and ''teachers pension'' Kenny's ride into sunset while the same Kenny broke all his election promises. ''Labours Way or Frankfurts way'' - anyone remember those words of wisdom from a man whos IQ is inversely proportional to his waist measurement ?

    I work and im at my limit but im not protesting for myself im protesting for my kid this **** has got to stop im not letting these silver spoon imbeciles turn my son into a serf no different than a slave!By the time hes older thats what he will be.

    The government is constantly working against the people they need a wake up TBH they need to feck off i want a new system this country needs to start again.


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  • #2491
    gladrags
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭gladrags


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    arse..biscuits wrote: »
    I think you'll find most of the protesters are the "pay for everything hard working taxpayers"

    Right.

    The ones paying to bail the country out of hoc.

    While the All Hallows boyos run free to ransack the country again.

    Thugs and scumbags in a fundamental way.


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