The amount of misogyny on boards these days is frightening.*Mod instruction in OP*

Sand wrote: »

Oh no, I feel humbled by being the presence of a real black rights activist such as yourself.

I'm not a black rights activist. I'm a white Irish man who knows better than to try to speak on behalf of an entire demographic like you and your friend have.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

Abraham Lincoln

I think it would be safe to say that most male posters on boards.ie are like me Irish white youngish males maybe 60% male 40% female. I think it's interesting that the area were civil rights are considered legitimate and fiercely defended are the MRA threads. Whilst groups that are excluded somehow from being either white Irish or male are of course 'never discriminated against. I am actually a supporter of moderate MRA activists. However for me it's about total gender equality. I don't see moderate feminism being an opposing factor to that I think it's possible to be a supporter of feminism and MRA. If you don't think so fine suit yourself.

I am going to say that sexism and misogyny are very very different things. I am going to say there is a lot of sexism on boards. There is some but not much misogyny. Remember misogyny is a pure HATRED of women. Not every jerk who responds with 'nice story babes' is a misogynist. He is a jerk and a sexist. There is quite a bit of sexism on the net. That is true. It's actually not even something a lot of people do consciously.

There are also a huge number of trolls who know it is a subject that creates drama. The vast number of posts on boards.ie are not sexist ...they are pretty stupid a lot of the time but they are often not even to do with women.Yes there are some people who don't get out much. And they used to spend time alone in their bedrooms now there is the net. I think a lot of women particularly in Ireland have a suspicion that they are finally getting a carry over representation of 'lockeroom banter' as if this is what men were like all along. That this is what we say when they are not around. Or perhaps we get an insight into what women feel they have to deal with.

Yes there are some misogynists on boards. But they puff up bigger than they are and bigger in number than they are. Yes they enjoy the drama of demeaning women. Sites like PUA hate sort of read like stormfront with their weird psuedo science to support ludicrous views.

Women on FB get Messages marked other would be filled with dick picks occasionally or links to porns vids sleazy or abusive messages or worse. Obviously these people are unwell. Women on Boards.ie I would say get a lot more weirdy pms. Female gamers present themselves as male online.Think about what that means. A woman feels safer presenting herself online as a man. If black people were presenting themselves as white. And there are some posters on here who need a wake up call. Not many but there are there. I think the problem is unless it is happening to you then you don't see it.

I walk past it. I don't see it. I have not experienced it. I am male. That does not mean I am responsible for it. It just means I am responsible for my ignorance.

I don't claim not to be selfish and prone to making questionable jokes at times or even questionable comments. I am certainly open to anyone taking me up on them though and saying 'hey did you think of what you said in this way?'. It's good to see a mirror of yourself from someone else's eyes sometimes.And in saying that, I would like to say this to the OP. When women announce to men who have not demonstrated the behavior you mention it feels like you are being persecuted. I understand it's difficult and maybe even unwise to say in the moment to the guy who was the jerk to back off and give him some wisdom. But I think you also need to consider how you approach it.


I think what women are saying when they start threads like this is not 'This goes on I am going to punish you for it', I think what they are saying is 'GUYS PLEASE DON'T DO THIS'. So if you did not intend to do so or have not done so then you don't need to worry. I don't start misogynists threads and I try not to make those types of comments. I am not perfect. But if any female poster wants to ever have a discourse over that i am always completely open to it.

Nasty is a mask for something else. I think a lot of sexism is simply an asshole letting off steam and watching people squirm. They are assholes to men. I understand though that they may be assholes to women in a different way and we should not ignore them. I have never met a woman hater who was not a sad loser of a ****. And I am not a bleeding heart liberal and I do support men's rights. If that combo does not sit well with any of you that's your problem.

The vast majority of men here are not the problem so berating us is not the solution.

Sand wrote: »

True, but people who make profoundly stupid posts in an attempt to be an internet hero tend to be unable to acknowledge that they've made a profoundly stupid post even when it is pointed out to them. Repeatedly. If they could, they wouldn't be dumb enough to make profoundly stupid posts. Would they?

I have no idea what it is you're trying to say here because it isn't at all clear.

Have another go.

MOD

@Sand and Karl Stein

Jaysus lads give it a rest.

"Your post was stupid"

"Yeah but yours was stupider!!"

Christ almighty.

PopePalpatine wrote: »

You've proved the OP's point perfectly. Who's this "we" that's doing the judging, the Iona Institute, Youth Defence and your fellow neckbeards?

Maybe the pay gap is a myth when you're comparing the same jobs, but this is a country where a woman has to go abroad for an abortion unless it threatens her life - that distrust of a woman to know what to do with her own body smacks of this "patriarchy" you sneer about. Shave your neckbeard FFS.

Well you've proven my point that woman expect to be able to do as they please and not face any criticism. Men will pass judgement on women, accept it and move on. Happens all the time in the real world. You want a safe space, join an online feminist group.

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I have just seen the phrase "invalidate my feelings"..........

I dont know who posted that [and I could care less about their gender too] as trying to scroll back 28 pages to read a new thread seems impossible...

My instinct is to reply : ''suck it up cupcake'' . So many first world problems around here;)

Gavin Shaggy Stoutness wrote: »

Said the straight white man who was just complaining about his misandrist spell checker, lord above.

Did you tell him to check his privilege?

Earl Turner wrote: »

Did you tell him to check his privilege?

Hilarious.

_asdfghjkl_ wrote: »

Why hasn't this thread been shut yet?? Complete trainwreck

you only have 16 posts and I just discovered this thread. ffs

_asdfghjkl_ wrote: »

Correct



How is that relevant to what I said though?

You dont know the answer to that question ?

Tarzana2 wrote: »

It's not a great point. There's nothing wrong with a man not wanting to be with a women who has slept with loads of men. That's not slutshaming. Slutshaming is making said woman feel bad for sleeping with loads of men. You not wanting to sleep with her doesn't give you the right to vocalise your opinion of her sexual activities. It's none of your business once you have decided sex won't occur between you and her.

If somebody feels bad because someone else holds an opinion, thats really their problem though. Not anyone elses. If a woman is as strong and independent and not in need of a man as she says she is then she shouldnt be affected by a males opinion one way or another. And vice versa.