AC/DC New album and Tour.

McDave · 02-11-2014 9:12am

wandatowell wrote: »

I didnt notice this much when I saw them live but when watching the live show from Rio on blu-ray, Brian was actually running out of air especially as the pace picked up.

Era fair play to him belting out the notes. Kudos.

Similarly on the SUL DVD. Flawless performance overall, but Brian has to put in a huge effort to deliver the vocals. It's not a criticism. It's great he's still performing - at this stage of their careers, the band wouldn't be credible without him, especially now that Malcolm has gone.

McDave · 02-11-2014 9:21am

scudzilla wrote: »

About as close to a secret DC show as your likely to get, Brian & Cliff at The Irish Rover pub in Florida...wasted on the yanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8-EFe0kT2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxxym81Fnz8

I'd settle for that!

ush · 02-11-2014 4:26pm

briany wrote: »

AC/DC would probably never say this is their last tour, but you have to think it's likely. It'll probably never happen, but by god do I wish they'd dust off some 'b' material for this one. Firstly, their 'b' material i.e. stuff that hasn't been played lately, is cracking. Stuff like Sin City, Live Wire, That's the way I wanna Rock 'n' Roll, Riff Riff (!!!), Stiff Upper Lip, Let Me Put My Love Into You, Walk All Over You, Rock 'N' Roll Damnation etc. I could go on. AC/DC's back catalog has so much killer stuff that may, sadly, never be heard played by the ones who wrote and I think it's a shame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDo6DxN86wc

Roanmore · 02-11-2014 5:06pm

Highway to Hell got the X Factor treatment last night, whilst the guy has a good voice it wasn't a patch on the guys.

I was surprised to hear it, I thought AC/DC were very strict about control of their music, didn't think they'd leave it be used for X Factor.

jack presley · 02-11-2014 5:15pm

Roanmore wrote: »

Highway to Hell got the X Factor treatment last night, whilst the guy has a good voice it wasn't a patch on the guys.

I was surprised to hear it, I thought AC/DC were very strict about control of their music, didn't think they'd leave it be used for X Factor.

Didn't Shania Twain or someone like that cover You Shook Me All Night Long a few years back? Whoever it was, I remember they changed the line "she told me to come" to something else.

Roanmore · 02-11-2014 5:21pm

jack presley wrote: »

Didn't Shania Twain or someone like that cover You Shook Me All Night Long a few years back? Whoever it was, I remember they changed the line "she told me to come" to something else.

Haven't heard that but I was traumatised after seeing this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1niTEkP-6eo::

jack presley · 02-11-2014 5:25pm

Roanmore wrote: »

Haven't heard that but I was traumatised after seeing this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1niTEkP-6eo::

It gets worse!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHtuGMHWAf0

Roanmore · 02-11-2014 5:48pm

jack presley wrote: »

It gets worse!

You win but at least she can be excused as she was married to Mutt:D

colmufc · 03-11-2014 2:45am

Roanmore wrote: »

Highway to Hell got the X Factor treatment last night, whilst the guy has a good voice it wasn't a patch on the guys.

I was surprised to hear it, I thought AC/DC were very strict about control of their music, didn't think they'd leave it be used for X Factor.

as long as you don't change the lyrics or the style of the song it can be covered by anyone without permission , it's when it's too be used for an ad or video game or movie that permission has to be seeked

blastman · 03-11-2014 12:11pm

I can see Anastacia doing a good version on her own, but those versions are horrific!

wandatowell · 04-11-2014 11:36pm

Hells bells those video's were bad :pac:

briany · 05-11-2014 1:04pm

It almost seems like covering AC/DC is a tougher task than it might at first seem, given the apparently simple nature of their music. Even their best tribute bands manage to do the music OK, as the band's overall sound is notoriously difficult to cop. A good example of this is that AC/DC have never used distortion/overdrive pedals to achieve their guitar sound, instead relying on sheer volume of their amps. This gives them the crunch but the guitars remain very big, open and natural sounding. Other guitarists trying to replicate it with stomp boxes end up sounding buzzy, indistinct and small in comparison.

Then there's bad choices in the interpretation like in some of the videos posted.

There's a version of It's a Long Way to the Top by Susanna and the magical Orchestra that goes under 'radically' different, but I just thought it was atrocious. Youtube it, if you dare.

Dublin Spur · 05-11-2014 1:55pm

what a fcuking band they are
what a back catalogue
what a signature sound
RIB Bon

Blue850 · 05-11-2014 9:37pm

briany wrote: »

Then there's bad choices in the interpretation like in some of the videos posted.

There's a version of It's a Long Way to the Top by Susanna and the magical Orchestra that goes under 'radically' different, but I just thought it was atrocious. Youtube it, if you dare.

But the Muppets do a killer version...:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahCT2yFmITk

lord lucan · 06-11-2014 4:53am

This might explain Phil Rudd 's absence recently!

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/acdc-drummer-phil-rudd-charged-with-attempting-to-procure-a-murder/

Regardless of the outcome I'd imagine this may put his future plans with ac/dc on hold.

Say Your Number · 06-11-2014 5:43am

F*cking hell :eek:

It's bad enough Malcolm was forced to retire, if Rudd can't tour either it definitely won't be the same, Chris Slade and Simon Wright both did a decent job filling in when he was gone but neither had the same feel as him, I hope he is found innocent and is able to tour, if he isn't what a stupid d1ckhead.

They will carry on if he can't tour, they'll still sell out all over the place regardless on the name alone.

ush · 06-11-2014 7:11am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O-vJbwvUlY

seachto7 · 06-11-2014 9:38am

lord lucan wrote: »

This might explain Phil Rudd 's absence recently!

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/acdc-drummer-phil-rudd-charged-with-attempting-to-procure-a-murder/

Regardless of the outcome I'd imagine this may put his future plans with ac/dc on hold.

On hold??? Lol

Dirty deeds....

partyguinness · 06-11-2014 9:51am

I can't get over how different Phil Rudd- it looks nothing like him....well so I thought!!

lee_baby_simms · 06-11-2014 10:26am

partyguinness wrote: »

I can't get over how different Phil Rudd- it looks nothing like him....well so I thought!!

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that he's not a gluten free/vegetable juice kinda guy.

LETS GET NAKED · 06-11-2014 10:41am

Yeah saw an interview with Phil Rudd filmed recently and he looked like crap, being a meth head would explain it.

The tour will still go ahead next year, but good chance I suppose that this really will be the last album cycle now. Chris Slade is still performing and touring so would be cool if they got him in rather than some random drum tech or somebody from another band.

What an odd story though the guy is clearly on another planet and needed help. Don't feel sorry for him though never heard of as I lay dying I guess

Iranoutofideas · 06-11-2014 12:28pm

Ducking hell!

lee_baby_simms · 06-11-2014 1:07pm

Iranoutofideas wrote: »

Ducking hell!

Ruddy hell!

Hoffmans · 06-11-2014 1:36pm

Phil Rudd arrained for allegedly organising 2 hits, not musical ones at that..

wandatowell · 06-11-2014 1:50pm

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

Ruddy hell!

Hoffmans wrote: »

Phil Rudd arrained for allegedly organising 2 hits, not musical ones at that..

briany · 06-11-2014 3:04pm

Well, that took an unexpectedly dark turn!

What's happened to Rudd, though? He's been a loose cannon since the band's come back into the public spotlight. Anyway, he's undoubtedly gone from the band now.

I wonder was this related also to why Rudd couldn't attend the video shoots?

I'd say to have Chris Slade back, as another poster above me also suggested. Look at him on the Donington videos. He's having the time of his life. If that was Phil, he'd be there with a stony expression, fag on, plugging away dutifully.

I feel bad for the whole band, now. It's almost like this tour just isn't meant to happen.

Lithium93_ · 06-11-2014 4:21pm

AC/DC have released a statement regarding Phil's arrest.

http://metalhammer.teamrock.com/news/2014-11-06/ac-dc-rudd-arrest-won-t-impact-album-tour

"We've only become aware of Phil's arrest as the news was breaking. We have no further comment. Phil’s absence will not affect the release of our new album Rock Or Bust and upcoming tour next year."

lee_baby_simms · 06-11-2014 4:25pm

He looks like a meth addict - no teeth, complexion of a 90 year old. Sad really.

briany · 06-11-2014 4:43pm

Say Your Number wrote: »

F*cking hell :eek:

It's bad enough Malcolm was forced to retire, if Rudd can't tour either it definitely won't be the same, Chris Slade and Simon Wright both did a decent job filling in when he was gone but neither had the same feel as him, I hope he is found innocent and is able to tour, if he isn't what a stupid d1ckhead.

They will carry on if he can't tour, they'll still sell out all over the place regardless on the name alone.

At this point I'm thinking that Rudd's feel was overrated. I can't say that his solo album exactly blew my head off with 'feel'. It sounded pretty average. I think the Youngs felt, though, that they worked well with him and had a musical understanding.

I'd say Chris Slade was the best out of the three who've been official members and if you look at the videos where he's with them, he added a verve and tightness to their sound that hasn't really been there before or since. And his enthusiasm was great to see. I think the reason he got the boot was because he wasn't a fit personality-wise, but there's no one area where you could say Phil's got an edge over Chris in terms of being the right drummer for AC/DC, musically speaking. Hopefully, if Phil is indeed out and Chris is not busy with something else, they extend that invitation to keep it 'in the family' as it were.

LETS GET NAKED · 06-11-2014 5:00pm

Yeah I liked Chris Slade, and the album is done so it's not as if he's going to affect the writing process. His drumkit was badass as well.

Say Your Number · 06-11-2014 5:20pm

Technically Slade is miles ahead of Rudd, but Rudd is a better fit for AC/DC, I love how he keeps it simple, no self indulgent nonsense like some drummers can be guilty of, I hope he's cleared and able to tour but if not I'd be happy with Slade, he's hugely underrated and maybe he might get some deserved recognition, Slade has just turned 68 suppose it depends how his health is.

Roanmore · 06-11-2014 5:33pm

I think he'd be open to coming back

http://loudwire.com/former-acdc-drummer-chris-slade-expresses-regret-quitting-band-1994/

briany · 06-11-2014 5:41pm

Say Your Number wrote: »

Technically Slade is miles ahead of Rudd, but Rudd is a better fit for AC/DC, I love how he keeps it simple, no self indulgent nonsense like some drummers can be guilty of, I hope he's cleared and able to tour but if not I'd be happy with Slade, he's hugely underrated and maybe he might get some deserved recognition, Slade has just turned 68 suppose it depends how his health is.

Slade kept it simple, too, but I think any little hits he added were there to add to the song, not take away by adding needless complexity.

One of Slade's recent gigs has been 'fronting' his very own AC/DC tribute band - Chris Slade's Steel Circle. They're not great, except for Slade. I'm sure he doesn't need to do it, but does it because he enjoys playing that kind of music. Still, it can be a little hard watching a guy playing in a tribute for a band he used to actually be in.

Even if Rudd gets cleared, AC/DC don't like messing. The Youngs (or just Angus, now) have always been fairly intolerant of unprofessional behavior. If they gave Slade and Mark Evans the boot for no real good reason, I hold little hope for the double-murder plot suspect with a barely concealed drug problem.

Say Your Number · 06-11-2014 5:53pm

briany wrote: »

Slade kept it simple, too, but I think any little hits he added were there to add to the song, not take away by adding needless complexity.

One of Slade's recent gigs has been 'fronting' his very own AC/DC tribute band - Chris Slade's Steel Circle. They're not great, except for Slade. I'm sure he doesn't need to do it, but does it because he enjoys playing that kind of music. Still, it can be a little hard watching a guy playing in a tribute for a band he used to actually be in.

Even if Rudd gets cleared, AC/DC don't like messing. The Youngs (or just Angus, now) have always been fairly intolerant of unprofessional behavior. If they gave Slade and Mark Evans the boot for no real good reason, I hold little hope for the double-murder plot suspect with a barely concealed drug problem.

I'm not saying Slade is one of those flash b*stard drummers, he's great on that live album, I just think Rudd's style suits AC/DC better.

It's probably unlikely Rudd will come back, if his case isn't heard soon they probably won't wait anyway regardless of how guilty/innocent he is, their time is limited enough as it is, it's a fairly depressing end for them

briany · 06-11-2014 6:02pm

Say Your Number wrote: »

I'm not saying Slade is one of those flash b*stard drummers, he's great on that live album, I just think Rudd's style suits AC/DC better.

It's probably unlikely Rudd will come back, if his case isn't heard soon they probably won't wait anyway regardless of how guilty/innocent he is, their time is limited enough as it is, it's a fairly depressing end for them

I just got a bit tired of Rudd's miserable git act being on stage. He's very dead-eyed and unanimated in his playing, however much of a fit it might be. Sometimes it really feels like he's phoning it in, whereas Slade has always been super upbeat in his demeanour. He had a much better 'big rock' feel to him. Maybe Rudd's been better on the album, but Slade killed it better live than any Rudd performance I've seen.

Honestly, I don't think AC/DC should have gone ahead with this album and tour, and it pains me to say that because they've been my absolute favorite rock band since I was very small, but the wheels appear to be coming off now. I mean, they can keep plugging away with new members, but one thing I always respected about AC/DC was they weren't one of those bands with like one or two original guys and the rest were session spot fillers. They were always pretty consistent. The other thing is I thought they'd made a pact that if one of them couldn't continue, none of them would. Where's that gone?

RayCon · 06-11-2014 6:32pm

briany wrote: »

Where's that gone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iF26wKF-_M

NelsonVanAlden · 06-11-2014 6:44pm

The new drummer will possibly be Bob Richards.

wandatowell · 06-11-2014 6:53pm

Jesus 68 is really pushing it. They fella he replaced has a few your on him id say.

briany · 06-11-2014 6:55pm

RayCon wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iF26wKF-_M

AC/DC aren't really stuck for a few bob. They're long past the need to continue for monetary reasons, and they're not in a position where they can be dictated to by labels or managers. The only reason to continue is because they enjoy it.

Say Your Number · 06-11-2014 8:12pm

briany wrote: »

I just got a bit tired of Rudd's miserable git act being on stage. He's very dead-eyed and unanimated in his playing, however much of a fit it might be. Sometimes it really feels like he's phoning it in, whereas Slade has always been super upbeat in his demeanour. He had a much better 'big rock' feel to him. Maybe Rudd's been better on the album, but Slade killed it better live than any Rudd performance I've seen.

Honestly, I don't think AC/DC should have gone ahead with this album and tour, and it pains me to say that because they've been my absolute favorite rock band since I was very small, but the wheels appear to be coming off now. I mean, they can keep plugging away with new members, but one thing I always respected about AC/DC was they weren't one of those bands with like one or two original guys and the rest were session spot fillers. They were always pretty consistent. The other thing is I thought they'd made a pact that if one of them couldn't continue, none of them would. Where's that gone?

Rudd delivers live no matter how disinterested he looks, I haven't seen Slade live so I can't compare them that way, the fact that they've worked with Slade and he knows the songs is a huge advantage to him when they go looking for a replacement

I think I read that illness hit Malcolm pretty suddenly, they may have had the album written and had a farewell tour planned and decided to go ahead with it, if this happened in 2011, they may have called it a day, as much as I hate saying this I hope they call it a day after this tour and they don't piss on their legacy completely, like Johnson said a few years ago have people looking at them on the stage and feeling sorry for them.

Iranoutofideas · 06-11-2014 8:27pm

Chris Slade is 68 :eek:

briany · 07-11-2014 2:32am

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/phil-rudd-hugh-hefner/

Apparently new details have come to light in this case. Seemingly Rudd enjoyed a fair amount of paid female company, being described as the 'Hugh Hefner' of the town he calls home. Trouble is he seems to have felt they weren't always worth paying, which irked the local pimps resulting in death threats. This led to Rudd hiring extra bodyguards and attempting to pay them for the extra service of assassination.

Crazy, if true.

Say Your Number · 07-11-2014 3:48am

Apparently charges have been dropped, does this mean he'll be able to tour?
www.blabbermouth.net/news/acdc-drummer-phil-rudd-procuring-murder-charge-dropped/

Lithium93_ · 07-11-2014 4:02am

I guess we'll know if Phil Rudd will be able to join AC/DC on their world tour after his court appearance on the 27th of November.

lee_baby_simms · 07-11-2014 11:38am

This story is ruddiculous.

ush · 07-11-2014 12:28pm

Say Your Number wrote: »

Apparently charges have been dropped, does this mean he'll be able to tour?
www.blabbermouth.net/news/acdc-drummer-phil-rudd-procuring-murder-charge-dropped/

Procuring murder charge dropped, replaced by threatening to kill charge. An AC/DC world tour is a very risk averse operation. They're not going to take someone using meth with them. Rudd's blown it.

Meursault · 07-11-2014 2:55pm

ush wrote: »

Procuring murder charge dropped, replaced by threatening to kill charge. An AC/DC world tour is a very risk averse operation. They're not going to take someone using meth with them. Rudd's blown it.

If the drug charges stick, he wont be able to tour anyway.

no doubt, he will have the best lawyer money can buy and he will be cleared of the murder threats, etc, but it might be more difficult to get out of the drugs charges. He has already been caught for possession. The judge mightnt be so sympathetic this time around. that would rule him out of touring the US at least.

i think if he is cleared and gets his act together then he may yet survive.

i am surprised at the comments regarding Slade vs Rudd above. Malcolm is/was a ruthless m'f**ker. Look at what happened with M Evans. Just cut without reason and completely ignored ever since. Same with D Evans. It goes to show how important Phil was/is to the band that Malcolm was willing to take him back in to the band. Also, it is no coincidence that the period that Phil was out of the band coincided with the band's lowest ebb (notable exception being Thunderstruck - the rest of razor's edge was poor enough)

Its a moot point anyway, an AC/DC without Malcolm is not really AC/DC at all, in my opinion, and it is especially the case if Phil is gone now too.

briany · 07-11-2014 4:45pm

Meursault wrote: »

i am surprised at the comments regarding Slade vs Rudd above. Malcolm is/was a ruthless m'f**ker. Look at what happened with M Evans. Just cut without reason and completely ignored ever since. Same with D Evans. It goes to show how important Phil was/is to the band that Malcolm was willing to take him back in to the band. Also, it is no coincidence that the period that Phil was out of the band coincided with the band's lowest ebb (notable exception being Thunderstruck - the rest of razor's edge was poor enough)

Its a moot point anyway, an AC/DC without Malcolm is not really AC/DC at all, in my opinion, and it is especially the case if Phil is gone now too.

It sort of is. It didn't help that Rudd was gone, but there were a number of things going against AC/DC at that time. They were burned out by the mid-eighties having done almost nothing but tour-record, tour-record since they began in 1973. Brian's voice was shot because of the punishing vocal style he adopted since joining the band in 1980, musical fashions were changing, there was mishandling of the production on Fly on the Wall and BUYV and all those things also led to a brief loss of morale. It's not as if the band's fortunes suddenly bounced back after Rudd returned either. Ballbreaker was not exactly an amazing return to the pinnacle of the rock scene (again, musical fashions were working against them).

Regarding Slade, I just like his attitude. I think Malcolm probably felt that no other drummer was ever able to cultivate the same understanding as Rudd was able to, and that's pretty important to Malcolm, but Rudd doesn't just get a free pass because of that. When you watch Slade at (and I hate to bring it up again :P) Live at Donington, he just looks so happy and into the music he's playing, unlike Rudd who permanently has a fag-on 'another day at the office' head on him.

partyguinness · 07-11-2014 10:26pm

Meursault wrote: »

Also, it is no coincidence that the period that Phil was out of the band coincided with the band's lowest ebb (notable exception being Thunderstruck - the rest of razor's edge was poor enough)

Well to be fair, I think they were coming into natural lull in their career at that stage anyway. Ran out of ideas. So I wouldnt really put it down to Rudd's departure.

partyguinness · 07-11-2014 10:32pm

briany wrote: »

Live at Donington, he just looks so happy and into the music he's playing, unlike Rudd who permanently has a fag-on 'another day at the office' head on him.

LOL...I discussed this with a buddy of mine in the past i.e. drinking at his house on a Friday night and just stuck on Live at Donnington..:o

I guess one minute he was just another washed up drummer from a 70s glam rock band and the next he is jamming with ACDC at Donnington. Looks like he felt like the luckiest guy alive...cant blame him really...:)

AC/DC New album and Tour.

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