Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

ardle1 · 30-09-2014 01:55AM

wonski wrote: »

How do you pull over if there is a cyclist behind you then? Never?

If someone in front indicates left you shouldn't even try to undertake him.
Cyclists need to pay attention, too.

Soooooo, if there was a left turn should the taxi have continued with his 'manoeuvere'? regardless of the Cyclist!?

wonski · 30-09-2014 02:06AM

ardle1 wrote: »

Soooooo, if there was a left turn should the taxi have continued with his 'manoeuvere'? regardless of the Cyclist!?

You cannot undertake (overtake on the left) vehicle turning left.

Simple.

The cyclist was wrong and did not keep a safe distance between himself and a vehicle in front of him. He also tried to pass it on the inside when it was pulling over and indicating its intention.

Watch it again, please.

ardle1 · 30-09-2014 02:32AM

wonski wrote: »

You cannot undertake (overtake on the left) vehicle turning left.

Simple.

The cyclist was wrong and did not keep a safe distance between himself and a vehicle in front of him. He also tried to pass it on the inside when it was pulling over and indicating its intention.

Watch it again, please.

No No.. I'm not watching it again, I think they came round the bend at similar speeds and I also think the driver seen the Cyclist... I think the driver was saying to him-self>>'can he not fcukin see me'? anyway as a 'professional' driver he should have let the Cyclist continue on........

wonski · 30-09-2014 02:37AM

ardle1 wrote: »

No No.. I'm not watching it again, I think they came round the bend at similar speeds and I also think the driver seen the Cyclist... I think the driver was saying to him-self>>'can he not fcukin see me'? anyway as a 'professional' driver he should have let the Cyclist continue on........

Why do you use capital C every time you type cyclist btw

Caliden · 30-09-2014 08:42AM

A cyclist can only undertake in slow moving traffic.

In the video there was no traffic ahead of the taxi therefore the cyclist was attempting an undertake, plain and simple.

He was 2-3 bike lengths behind the taxi when the indicator went on but kept going ahead with the undertake attempt.

If a moped/motorcycle tried that I don't see how anyone could defend it.

BMJD · 30-09-2014 08:50AM

dey dont even pay road tax Joe!

spurious · 30-09-2014 08:52AM

The taxi driver was aware the cyclist was there. He is driving a considerably larger and heavier vehicle. He decided to have a mickey measuring contest to squeeze the cyclist into the kerb. Nonsense from a grown adult. At least the cyclist has the cop not to carry it on.

GrumpyMe · 30-09-2014 10:06AM

Caliden wrote: »

A cyclist can only undertake in slow moving traffic.

In the video there was no traffic ahead of the taxi therefore the cyclist was attempting an undertake, plain and simple.

He was 2-3 bike lengths behind the taxi when the indicator went on but kept going ahead with the undertake attempt.

If a moped/motorcycle tried that I don't see how anyone could defend it.

Just for the hell of it - imagine the taxi is doing his driving test!
Now would he have received a demerit point for his driving?
I'd be surprised if it wasn't an instant fail!

CramCycle · 30-09-2014 10:19AM

CiniO wrote: »

Are cyclists allowed to overtake on the left, when car is signalling left turn?

wonski wrote: »

You cannot undertake (overtake on the left) vehicle turning left.

Cyclist was at the rear wheel when the indicators came on, if he was a metre further up the road he would not have seen the indicator at all. Great defensive cycling but the taxi driver should have stopped and waited to see what the cyclist was going to do as if the cyclist missed that indicator he would have been crushed.

Also cyclists are allowed overtake on the left, legally, from October 2012.

glic71rods46t0 · 30-09-2014 10:31AM

CramCycle wrote: »

Also cyclists are allowed overtake on the left, legally, from October 2012.

But they are specifically prohibited from passing left turning traffic on the left. I love the selective quotes from the pro lycra brigade!

CramCycle · 30-09-2014 10:38AM

rw7h9gbvx5tozy wrote: »

But they are specifically prohibited from passing left turning traffic on the left. I love the selective quotes from the pro lycra brigade!

That's pretty much everyone, no selective quoting either, the only bit I left out was that traffic had to be slower moving but Physics does not really allow for any other type of overtake. My point was that the taxi only indicated when the cyclists was already at his rear wheel. It was sloppy observation on the taxis part IMO.

I am pro "no idiots or assh*ts on the road", after that I am not really pro anything in regards road use. Lycra, gets really uncomfortable after awhile in the car for me, I decided to leave the eighties behind and either go with trousers or shorts, but everyone to themselves.

PeteK* · 30-09-2014 12:50PM

BMJD wrote: »

dey dont even pay road tax Joe!

No one does :pac:

I pay motor tax :P

glic71rods46t0 · 30-09-2014 01:07PM

CramCycle wrote: »

That's pretty much everyone, no selective quoting either, the only bit I left out was that traffic had to be slower moving but Physics does not really allow for any other type of overtake. My point was that the taxi only indicated when the cyclists was already at his rear wheel. It was sloppy observation on the taxis part IMO.

I am pro "no idiots or assh*ts on the road", after that I am not really pro anything in regards road use. Lycra, gets really uncomfortable after awhile in the car for me, I decided to leave the eighties behind and either go with trousers or shorts, but everyone to themselves.

You mentioned that cyclists are permitted to undertake i.e. pass on the left, since October 2012. You seem to be very pedantic in quoting the law when it suits your pro lycra agenda (in this and other forums). Your omission to mention the specific exclusion of undertaking left turning traffic was, in my opinion, deliberate and self(lycra) serving.
The rest of your post was, I assume, an attempt at humour - don't give up on that dream of breaking into stand up - never mind what everyone else says, you're hilarious;)

bear1 · 30-09-2014 01:55PM

And this thread was going so well........

bear1 · 30-09-2014 01:58PM

Just to get back onto the actual topic before a dashcam cycle version thread is opened, here is my last ditch attempt at providing 10mins of good footage

Whoops forgot the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oMK3hI-0Fs

i57dwun4yb1pt8 · 30-09-2014 02:01PM

fail

punisher5112 · 30-09-2014 02:02PM

Why can't this be footage only and seperate for discussion?

BMJD · 30-09-2014 02:05PM

edit: this is about the taxi thing

I'm not too sure that pulling up onto the footpath constitutes a "left turn".

In my humble opinion, Mr. Taxi was pulling over and he wasn't going to let Mr. Cyclist get in the way and delay him by about 1.3 seconds. It was discourteous and unnecessarily arseholeish. The sensible thing to do would have been for the taxi to indicate and then stop and let the cyclist decide which course of action to take.

Sterling Archer · 30-09-2014 02:13PM

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I would post a clip from yesterday but I'm at work.

Caliden · 30-09-2014 03:18PM

BMJD wrote: »

edit: this is about the taxi thing

I'm not too sure that pulling up onto the footpath constitutes a "left turn".

In my humble opinion, Mr. Taxi was pulling over and he wasn't going to let Mr. Cyclist get in the way and delay him by about 1.3 seconds. It was discourteous and unnecessarily arseholeish. The sensible thing to do would have been for the taxi to indicate and then stop and let the cyclist decide which course of action to take.

At the same time it's not exactly smart to attempt to undertake a 1 tonne metal box.

Anyway as others have said, more videos!

Iwannahurl · 30-09-2014 04:25PM

The first one is an example of nearly lethal stupidity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obwpIrbLZ4Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9o2JuZCbPY

b318isp · 30-09-2014 05:05PM

BMW doesn't want to get stuck behind a lorry, so sneaks around the outside...only to find stationary traffic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfRASQGJF24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfRASQGJF24&feature=youtu.be

BMJD · 30-09-2014 05:25PM

b318isp wrote: »

BMW doesn't want to get stuck behind a lorry, so sneaks around the outside...only to find stationary traffic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfRASQGJF24&feature=youtu.be

EDIT: Can anyone tell me why the
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
embed doesn't seem to work for me?

you need to remove the "s" from "https://" in the embeddy things, or else just use the youtube ID, which is RfRASQGJF24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfRASQGJF24

b318isp · 30-09-2014 05:54PM

BMJD wrote: »

you need to remove the "s" from "https://" in the embeddy things[/YOUTUBE]

Removing the s didn't help, but shortening the URL did. Tnx.

Nino Brown · 30-09-2014 07:56PM

What do you think lads, did I cop it in time?

Stinicker · 30-09-2014 08:03PM

Nino Brown wrote: »

What do you think lads, did I cop it in time?

Should read trois points

What was the speedlimit of that road?, according to your carcam GPS you were doing 100km/h or below. May have just escaped, hopefully you did

Nino Brown · 30-09-2014 08:08PM

Stinicker wrote: »

Should read trois points What was the speedlimit of that road?, according to your carcam GPS you were doing 100km/h or below. May have just escaped, hopefully you did

It's the N4, so 80kmph is the limit. Three points now? I didn't know that. Thanks.

josip · 30-09-2014 08:09PM

Nino Brown wrote: »

What do you think lads, did I cop it in time?

I wouldn't be too hopeful.
I think you braked from 100kph+ 2 and a half lamposts away.
Which is 125m if I'm not mistaken.
I've read elsewhere that from 150m you're fair game.

Nino Brown · 30-09-2014 08:12PM

josip wrote: »

I wouldn't be too hopeful.
I think you braked from 100kph+ 2 and a half lamposts away.
Which is 125m if I'm not mistaken.
I've read elsewhere that from 150m you're fair game.

Awh, so close, I shouldn't have checked my rear view before braking!!:D

Gosub · 30-09-2014 08:17PM

josip wrote: »

I wouldn't be too hopeful.
I think you braked from 100kph+ 2 and a half lamposts away.
Which is 125m if I'm not mistaken.
I've read elsewhere that from 150m you're fair game.

On another thread here, it was said that if you are measured for your speed within 50m of the van, so you might just get away with it.

It has to be said that an 80kph limit on that road seems ridiculous!

Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

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