Be honest. Is "mail order bride" one of your reactions?

Smidge wrote: »

I have friends and family who have married the following...
Filipinos
Finnish
Latvian
English
Venezuelan
Italian
Croatian
Australian
Thai
Korean
Probably a few more I'm forgetting but my point is, I couldn't care less where any of their partners are from as long as they are nice people(which incidentally the English person isn't, they're a complete fukcwit )
So despite the hyperbole in this thread the vast, vast majority of Irish people are not racist(not in comparison to other countries, try to be a 6ft white guy in certain parts of Korea and you'll soon find out what TRUE racism is )

But with regard to the mail order bride thing?
It def exists in our society and is something i really don't like. If there is a big age gap and social divide, it aint good.

What english person?? Yea I hate this crass 'banter' the english go on with, never really understood it, just seems like insulting each other back and forth. My last gf who was english was a demon for it.

ireland.man wrote: »

Apologies, but what I mean is putting a woman on a pedestal isn't genuinely being nice to her. And absolutely, lacking in self-esteem or even opinions would not be attractive for a man or woman.

Well ok, thats a very individualistic matter, nobody is the same..some might genuinely want to put people on pedestals for whatever reason. I used to do it in the hope I'd get affection in return and I guess I did get a sense of gratification from being super nice to fellow humans.

lufties wrote: »

Well ok, thats a very individualistic matter, nobody is the same..some might genuinely want to put people on pedestals for whatever reason. I used to do it in the hope I'd get affection in return and I guess I did get a sense of gratification from being super nice to fellow humans.

Being nice to someone to make them happy is nice. Being super nice to someone for the main intention of getting something in return, a relationship, money, items, friendship, kindness, is to differing degrees 'not nice'.

And yes, we're coming at this from completely different perspectives. It's a sensitive topic and I wouldn't want to offend someone or denigrate their views.

Maybe we can find some common ground and agree that mates calling your girlfriend a 'mail order bride', like in the OPs case, are d*%kheads!

I had a girlfriend from Korea (<2 yrs age difference) and one of my former coworkers told people in the office I had ordered a mail order bride from Thailand. My girlfriend's family were way richer than mine was.

That was a rare incident though. Most people completely accepted her and were very nice (or just jealous because she was smoking hot).

However, I am sure it would be different if they age difference was huge.

One of my friends then did marry a mail order bride without meeting her from Azerbaijan. That ended up being weird and interesting.

I've recently started going out with a girl from Taiwan. Smoking hot. We met at work in Beijing. Complex situation but I'm officially living in Germany right now but working mostly in Beijing. She is 26 and I am 25. She is very nice. Not a gold digger. But initially it is something you always wonder as a westerner in Asia. All my friends in Germany are warning me to proceed with caution and one even said all asians just marry for family, money and face but I hope he is wrong.

I am by no means rich and neither is she. To be honest she can get any guy she wants and other French/German/Japanese approach her all the time. I only managed to pull her after 6 months of spadework. I think if she was digging for the gold she would be all over all these guys from the offset.

If she was a gold digger I would expect her to be more like Sophia. Sophia is a chinese girl from Dalian who approached me in a bar one night complaining that she was depressed and lonely. I think that is the real warning sign.

Some korean friends were amused on Friday when we were out having some beers and we went dutch on the bill. We do this mostly. I think not all Asian girls are gold diggers.

GabbyJay wrote: »

I think the ignorant Irish guy will eventually cop on to the fact that his souped up Nissan Micra actually isn't so impressive outside of Offaly.

So all ignorant Irish guys live in Offaly???

A lot of Irish people haven't travelled and have narrow minded uninformed opinions.
I often find that it's irish people who have "problems" with matters that other nationalities don't have .

ireland.man wrote: »

Nah, 'nice guys' as a concept is just a silly recent thing. Pretending to have a friendship with a woman that you secretly want to bone makes you not a nice guy. Being nice means treating women with respect, treating them as equals, accepting their choices and opinions are individual ones, etc. It's always worked for me.

It's simple. Whether it's Asians, Russians, Africans or women in general, stop turning them into commodities to be bought, won, achieved!

Exactly. Every girl who ive been with has appreciated me being a nice person to them, what girl would not? The perception that nice guys finish last only exsists because most of the guys who call themselves nice really arent actually nice, and treat women like objects . They exepct women to want them just because theyre nice.