Beef General Thread

mallethead wrote: »

I saw fr bullocks 650 to 700 kg hard set to make a 1000 euro
good well bred charolais making up to 800 with the kilo

Could be a twist in those fresians if you could keep them outside until late November

Feckthis wrote: »

None in the mart or poor prices?

Saw 2 450 kg freisian bulloks struggling to make 800

Cattlepen wrote: »

Front loader

Thanks but I ment ratio

Feckthis wrote: »

Why would you think that?!

Factories feed lots might be empty by then maybe?

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

I agree as above however you might get a very good price for a hulls/barley mix. So I price both. 1/3 hulls rest either barley or barley/maize mix.



You should be able to get for around 200/ton or a bit with it. It depends on how much you are taking. If only taking a few tons consider collecting hulls, barley and maize sperate in half ton bags direct from mill.

Getting 5 tonne of a 16% cubed blend with following ,barley,maize,hulls,soya ,vitimans minerals and yeast .25% barley,25% maize,30% hulls,16% soya and 4% vit minerals for 235 blown into bin .souds ok to me

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Cattle will be scare by mid late November. In general when that happens plain finished cattle are flat priced. Your best and cheapest way of finishing is to feed outside. A 675kg Friesian feed 3-4kgs of ration maybe 5 in November would do 70-80kgs LW in that time. He kill in excess of 360 kgs. He eat 270kgs of ration costing 70 euro maybe 50 for silage and grass dosing etc 10 euro. 150 should be the outside of costs. If they cost 1050, then they be standing you 1200 at slaughter, you would need 3.25/kg to break even.

Lads and Lasses, Its the terminology, Breakeven is zero profit after EVERYTHING gets paid. If your at 3.25, your making zero contribution to overheads, and I have yet to see a farm without overheads. Please don't assume your making money when you are clearing a tenner on each animal after holding them for 12 months. Bottom line is after tax, bank interest& charges, depreciation, insurance, repairs, conacre costs, accountants fee, computer & internet costs, tractor running costs, Teagasc fee, ICBF fee, reseeding costs, jeep running costs. lets call it margin or contribution to overhead. So at 3.25, your making no contribution to your overheads, your a million miles from breakeven-overheads on dry stock farms are running 400-600/Ha.

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Would you mind telling that to Teagasc, Farmers Journal etc etc. It drives me nuts. Quoted a figure of €850 /Ha for suckler farmer in this weeks journal. Gross marhin of course. No mention of net margin. Talk about creative accounting. :mad:
Every time they do an article on Dairying, it's net margin. Why oh why is that?

Maybe im too cynical but ...Im convinced they know the difference but they want to be talking about profits, positive margins, not losses, jaysus not losses- so they conveniently ignore overheads, its easier that way, make farmer think he should be running on zero overheads, or he should have to pay overheads outa his own poca. They must think were dummies altogether. Also, if your keeping the animal for 18 months, you should be thinking of 1.5 times overhead to be recovered from that animal. Now we all know that you don't get paid for your time, or your land, but we also forget the cash we have tied up in our business. If we charged the farm business for these cost and the cost of having our money tired up in stock, meal etc, then we might be getting closer to true overhead for running a farm, your tenner wouldn't be worth a damn then

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Looks a good price just confirms about what I say about pricing. Cubing/nutting adds about 15/ton to a mix so considering you that is equivlent to 22o/for a 16% ration. There is no rubbish in mix and it is ideal for grass. Good price

Was told coarse blend 10 per tonne cheaper but better go cubed as it would be hard get an even mix for bin with those ingridents.i agree

Progressive genetics new beef catalogue is up on their Facebook page now. Don't know how to put up a link to it.

Here you go http://issuu.com/laurencefeeney/docs/pgbeef2015/0

Thanks Kovu, hope that doesn't keep you up all nite:D

.Kovu. wrote: »

Our man doesn't carry Progressive so I can only look:o

You're allowed to have more than one man these days you know;)

tanko wrote: »

You're allowed to have more than one man these days you know;)

Oh yeah but if ya have two women :rolleyes:

.Kovu. wrote: »

Then it gives each of them a break from the feckin' eejit every so often:pac: