Kerry v Donegal All Ireland football final 2014 - Mod warning Post #598

Why would you bother?!

realweirdo wrote: »

Dublin have some outstanding forwards and many options up front and they were shut out basically. No goals and were forced to pick off long range points.

I don't think the Kerry forwards are as good as Dublins. Does Kerry have anyone like McMenamen to come off the bench for example who has pace and power. Some of their long range shooting against Mayo was woeful. Some of their short range shooting wasn't much better. JOD will find himself swarmed every time he gets the ball. The high ball into Donaghy, an obvious tactic which Donegal will be well prepared for and training accordingly. Something Mayo ommitted to do.

If Donegal can handle the Dublin attack, they can handle any attack. Donegal for me.

Dublin got 17 points which is a decent total considering they were looking for goal for the last 10/15 minutes and the awful wides they kicked in desperation in the second half. If Kerry get that I think they will win. They won't concede the awful goals Dublin did.

threeball wrote: »

Kerry have been cynical for years. Anyone that hasn't noticed is either biased or blind

As have all the top,successful teams. Joe Brolly's rant at Sean Cavanagh last year was completely misguided, he should not have made it a personal issue.

Kerry have always been fantastic entertainment to watch, cynical or not.

I wish we were more cynical over the years.

Might have pulled McManaman down (x2)
Maybe stopped Canavan off the ball before he got a chance to stick it in the net.

Should have lies down 4 points up against the Dubs in 2011.

Might have a few extra All Ireland's.

Of course Kerry have done cynical things, show me a county that hasn't. Kerry pepper good football with cynicality like Donegal and Mayo and Dublin

Its the ones that pepper bad football with cynicality that annoy me. Cynicality should be a last resort, not a primary tactic.

Pipjam wrote: »

This Kerry team is not "fantastic entertainment". I was at the semi final between Kerry and Mayo in Croke Park. I'm from neither county so was impartial.

On several occasions I noted that Kerry were using a blanket defence and had only O'Donoghue and another forward in the Mayo half.

They were also hugely cynical and I felt the referee was poor. It was quite clear that they didn't want Mayo running with the ball and the referee did not use his whistle enough.

?????? it was Mayo who played alot of that game with a sweeper and Kerry attacked in droves until Mayo had to come out and play.

just because you're not from Mayo or Kerry, doesnt mean you are impartial. in fact, you come accross as a complete anti kerry man/woman in your posts, such is the bitterness they have.

Eddie Kinsella (Laois) has been appointed the referee.

Showing the minors maybe?

Old_-_School wrote: »

I can't see JOD getting Foty if Donegal win the All Ireland so it makes no sense to me how Donegal can be such short odds to win the All Ireland and JOD be such short odds to win Foty.
I don't think JOD is even guaranteed it if Kerry win; Donaghy and Moran could still win it if they have stormers on Sunday and JOD is quiet although hard to see Kerry winning if JOD is quiet.

Donaghy to win player of the year!! You must be joking.

It's player of the year. Not player of "thrown into the mix for 2.5 games to shake up the opposition"

+1 - JOD by a mile the most high profile contender for POTY and is the default answer anyone involved in the voting will be giving as it stands.

A complete shut out in the final and Michael Murphy hitting 2-4 or something daft like that is the only thing likely to change that default setting at the moment, and 2/5 seems pretty sensible odds against that sort of thing happening.

Old_-_School wrote: »

Donaghy won poty before based on his performance in 2.5 games where he was thrown into the mix to shake up the opposition.

He was my and many others MOTM in the semifinal. If he was MOTM in the final then you'd have to reckon anyone who's MOTM in the semi and final has a decent chance of foty.

He played 2 minutes versus Clare and had a nightmare - I think it was 3 balls kicked into him and he dropped/fumbled all three.

He played 6 minutes against Cork and did nothing of note.

Against Galway he didnt get off the bench.

He got 10 minutes in the first game and undoubtedly had an impact.

In the replay he had a massive influence but was undoubtedly helped by the fact that Mayo left Cafferkey on him for so long.

He didnt feature in the league.

By comparision JOD has scored 4-24 in 4 championship games with only 2-4 of that from deadballs, in addition to 5-24 in the league with only 8 points from deadballs. 9-48 in 11 games with 2-12 from deadballs - if that's not POTY form I don't know what is.

That's before the fact that at the moment I don't expect Donaghy to start the final as from a tactical point of view it makes little to no sense. - He's not going to get anywhere near the same sort of space and you can be sure if he does play there is no way Donegal won't have a proper plan to handle him.

Jimbobs Winnin Matches wrote: »

Any word on Cooper , surely he wouldnt be too far away from been fit , very little talk of him

Lots of "if only" talk - if only he had a few extra months, if only he'd been injured earlier in the year etc , no serious talk.

Old_-_School wrote: »

Who? ;-)

That handy ginger lad :pac:

BPKS wrote: »

All the talk down here is that Gooch will be fit for the replay:D

is Gooch actually training normally now or still on his own like Fitzmaurice said?

will be interesting to see if he gets togged out again the next day, i dont think he will get into the program/match day 26, but perhaps get the 28 like the last day and still be heavily involved on the bench.