Ukraine: As it happens.

SeanW wrote: »

Umm ... noone is trying to break up Russia (except maybe some Islamic fundies in Chechnya).

Noone here is "Russophobic" most people would prefer to have better relations with Russia in the mutual interest of all. It's just hard when they routinely invade and take territory from their neighbors.

All anyone wants is for Russia to mind its own business and stop invading it's neighbors, stealing their land, and killing and kidnapping their people. As the largest country on Earth 7 times over but with a population of only 110 million or so that should be easy enough, but Putin and co seem to have bigger ambitions.

Many of those so-called "Novorossians" are only there because they were sent there as colonists by Stalin in an attempt at genocide against the Ukranian people. Which the Soviets also did to Estonia - another country that Russia is now screwing with. Estonia is vulnerable to Russian meddling on the same basis that Ukraine is - the country has a sizeable chunk of its population as cultural Russians also left over from Stalins attempt to starve, exile and kill as many Baltic people, Ukranians and others as necessary to destroy those nationalities.

That fact alone should keep Russia out of the affairs of those countries. Permanently. And if someone wants to live in Russia they should bloody well move there, it's not like the coutry isn't big enough.

I've predicted for some time based on Russia's recent history that they'd start some more **** with Estonia (again) and I have been proven correct, at least on a small scale.

The US IS trying to break up Russia into weakling states. If you had any insight into the goals and machinations of the neoconservative circle that became part of the American administration during the Nixon years, and ever stronger and more influential thereafter, you would know that.

I have mentioned Brzezinski (Carter's advisor) before. He masterminded the destabilization of Afghanistan in 1978/79.

His opus "The Grand Chessboard" is a blueprint that outlines American aims to completely crush any obstacle to US global resource and monetary control. The vanguards (Dick Cheney, Robert Kagan, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, to name but a few) have codified the mantra that American military power must never be challenged. Their ethos, broadly stated, is that all control, "full spectrum dominance" as they state must lie within Washington's hands.

Now these aren't my words they are the words of senior members of successive US administration.

For you to state that nobody wishes to break up Russia, without a smidgen of knowledge regarding the true aim of the geopolitical game unfolding in front of your eyes, is naive at best.

Written in 1997, Brzezinski's recommendation to destroy Russia is a mandate that is being slowly adhered to up to the present day and beyone.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1254548/posts

Free Republic is a blazing rag replete with clueless "my country right or wrong" knuckleheads but you can seek out sources for the writings of this sociopath and they are many.

I don't have the time to post every single scrap of evidence, even threats, to destroy Russia and castrate China in order to hold America as the preeminent force on Earth. But you can seek them for yourself.
When American political "scholars" publish recommendations to destroy a country then one has to understand that country's anger. One also has to understand that country's suspicion given sneak tactics, propaganda campaigns, sanctions, smears and all manner of other subterfuge designed to forge public opinion before conflict sprouts and metastises.

Do you remember the years of sanctions, no fly zones, propaganda, vilification, etc that preceded the utterly criminal and revolting invasion of Iraq under a pack of nauseating lies?

I'm sure you do but don't want to talk about the death of so many.
Now you are fine to follow the same recipe regarding Russia?
Quick to swallow any piece of information, bogus or otherwise, that would paint the Russians as some kind of barbarian horde.

InTheTrees wrote: »

Why?? Ukraine isnt russia you know?

And Cuba isn't America, you know, but you don't seem to have a problem with the US stating that missile systems planted there are THEIR business.

InTheTrees wrote: »

Really?

Just because people want McDonalds and Disney right?

And your happy alternative is a bowl of thin potato soup washed down with a pint of vodka while listening to military music, after driving home from the munitions factory in your shiny new Zaz.

What are you on about? McDonald's opened up in Moscow during the USSR. But your average Russian has more discerning tastes than paupers who would put that muck in their mouths. They are a lot more sophisticated and classy than those who would marvel at deep fried chicken and peanut butter.