Dublin v Donegal Sunday 31 August AI semifinal Mod Warning Posts #392 #541

DoctaDee · 29-08-2014 04:54PM

davidfitz22 wrote: »

Worth a 50 quid punt on donegal at 7-1

Dublin to win by +15 points is near enough the same odds

davidfitz22 · 29-08-2014 05:16PM

DoctaDee wrote: »

Dublin to win by +15 points is near enough the same odds

you can get donegal to win by 1-3 points at 11-1, surely that is worth the gamble as theat likely going to be the outcome.

DoctaDee · 29-08-2014 05:26PM

davidfitz22 wrote: »

you can get donegal to win by 1-3 points at 11-1, surely that is worth the gamble as theat likely going to be the outcome.

Truthfully, I'm gonna play the h/c on bet365 (Donegal +7) @ 21/20

davidfitz22 · 29-08-2014 06:12PM

DoctaDee wrote: »

Truthfully, I'm gonna play the h/c on bet365 (Donegal +7) @ 21/20

You could probably get away with Donegal +3. better odds

Amprodude · 29-08-2014 06:18PM

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Dublin, the greatest side to ever play football to win by 40 points after they unleash the bench (tm) Who by themselves would probably win the all Ireland.

Just why Dublin will freeze one day. Kerry will take them like they have for most of history.

davidfitz22 · 29-08-2014 06:24PM

Amprodude wrote: »

Just why Dublin will freeze one day. Kerry will take them like they have for most of history.

Would you like some fish with that chip on your shoulder?

Amprodude · 29-08-2014 06:41PM

davidfitz22 wrote: »

Would you like some fish with that chip on your shoulder?

Fish and chips be nice alright.

mickoftheglens · 29-08-2014 07:04PM

What road do the Donegal ones take to Dublin?
I'd love to get a ween of people together and stand with Dublin jerseys and flags somewhere so i would

2moreMinutes · 29-08-2014 07:08PM

mickoftheglens wrote: »

What road do the Donegal ones take to Dublin?
I'd love to get a ween of people together and stand with Dublin jerseys and flags somewhere so i would

Those of us driving will just take the motorway straight from Donegal Town. The rest will probably take the train from Ballybofey.

mickoftheglens · 29-08-2014 07:13PM

not worth the trek

The Assistinator · 29-08-2014 07:22PM

mickoftheglens wrote: »

not worth the trek

you should go up to the game be nice for you to see what croke park looks like this time of year :P

mickoftheglens · 29-08-2014 07:29PM

martyo wrote: »

you should go up to the game be nice for you to see what croke park looks like this time of year :P

but i'm going to the yank football you see

Just An Opinion · 29-08-2014 08:02PM

We should have a starting 15 in the next hour or so. 43.5 hours to go...getting jittery now!

HooohRaaah · 29-08-2014 09:25PM

mickoftheglens · 29-08-2014 09:45PM

I've changed my mind since hearing that poem, I'm supporting Donegal

corny · 29-08-2014 09:53PM

mickoftheglens wrote: »

I've changed my mind since hearing that poem, I'm supporting Donegal

So have i and i'm from Dublin:D

DoctaDee · 29-08-2014 10:20PM

He nearly has the accent off to a T from his stint on love hate .. aul Mr Brennan ah jaysis .. didn't think we bothered with that camaille stuff

Just An Opinion · 29-08-2014 10:40PM

Oh dear, stick to the Fran stuff Fran.

Anyway, more to the point here's the Dublin team for Sunday;

Stephen Cluxton; Michael Fitzsimons, Rory O'Carroll, Philly McMahon; James McCarthy, Jonny Cooper, Nicky Devereux; Michael Darragh Macauley, Cian O'Sullivan; Paul Flynn, Kevin McManamon, Diarmuid Connolly; Alan Brogan, Eoghan O'Gara, Bernard Brogan.

harpsman · 29-08-2014 11:45PM

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

I think Nidge summed it up nicely Fr but you really ought to get that chip off your shoulder. Last year your boys gave our lads a lesson in Croke Park but the Mayo fans around us lacked any class after. Usually when All Ireland winners are beaten the following year they are given some respect for that but not last year. Despite all the gloating and completely over the top celebrating from them at winning a quarter final, we still wished them well and sincerely meant it as most Donegal fans would love to see Mayo win an All Ireland (so long as it's not against Donegal obviously!). You obviously don't understand the Donegal sense of humour if you think they go around thinking we're the greatest thing since Kerry and you clearly don't actually watch teams play but rather buy into soundbites or else you would see that Mayo playing to their strengths and playing their running game are very similar to Donegal in terms of style. Both teams get men behind the ball and break out in numbers by running at the opposition but hey you keep believing that Donegal are anti football and Mayo are very different.

Wouldnt waste your time on this sort of clown. I think alot of these Mayo people just cant accept the fact that Donegal beat them in the final- they could accept flopping regularly against Kerry but when they little old Donegal winning all irelands at their expense was too much to bear.

I remember the 2012 all ireland final thread beforehand he was obsessed about people in Donegal being overconfident and rows over the homecoming just so he could come on afterwrds to gloat about it, of course afterwards he didnt even have the balls to come on and congratulate Donegal.

Agree about the moronic behaviour of alot, not all of the Mayo supporters at the qf last year; and sure we ve all heard them bangin on about "sure if it wasnt for the first ten minutes we woulda beat Donegal" nonsense.

But like yourself, despite the lack of class then and of this specimin Id still support Mayo if theyre playin Dublin in the final. Most of them are top people,includin the old man!!Suppose some of us have a bit o "breedin" as they say

(ill probably get a ban now from some mayo mod!!:))

harpsman · 29-08-2014 11:57PM

DoctaDee wrote: »

THAT semi final in 2011; intriguing, enthralling ?, well yeah to the same degree as you rubberneck a car crash. Mickey Whelan spoke of the Dubs preparation for the game, playing countless practice matches with a packed defence - even 18 v 15 aside. Jim Mc confiscated mobile phones as the war room readied battle stations. What unfolded was outside the scope of anything that Dublin had reasonably prepared for - frustration was evident both on the field and in the stands. I thought that particular atmosphere served as an advantage to Donegal.

Fast forward 3 years and that intervening period has served as a great learning period to others on the facets of the defensive game. Flynner now speaks the mantra of "Patience" as the 1st step in approaching the match. Past30Now alluded to the post I had regarding the Dublin planning for this defensive system. It has been 8 months of refinement - but this is not being dismissive of games upto the Monaghan match either as the style of play was suited to all eventualities. It's not rocket science, moving the ball quickly with committed numbers, isolating 2v1 situations with runners off the shoulder and the ball being moved quickly thru the hands. Dublins advantage is they can do it quicker than most (with the possible exception of Kerry), but tellingly they can do it for longer than everybody.

Dublin have replicated the Donegal defensive system as a well coached philosophy in AvB practice games - but to my mind there's no way Donegal can mirror the Dublin way of playing.

Things have gone very quiet on the Dublin front - I'd spoken with a few of the players prior to the Monaghan game and might have picked up a snippet or 2 of info elsewhere, but have heard nothing. But make no mistake about it, this is the match they've had in their crosshairs all season

Thats what Im worried about as Donegal supporter- people have been talking all year and before that that the 1 team that could stop dublin were Donegal and that along with the 2011 saga means that they really want to lay down a marker and put the whole Donegal thing to bed. Given that theyve been winning games by 16 points its a scary thought what they might do with apoint to prove!!

Whatever chance Donegal in 2012 form would have I think the current team are a long way off Dublins level. We genuinely are just hoping(the supporters,im sure the team are only thinking of winning) to stay competitive as long as possible.

harpsman · 30-08-2014 12:08AM

Alvin Holler wrote: »

Tyrone in 08 weren't a patch on 05, 08 was pretty much a one man show with Cavanagh doing everything. 05 had Mulligan, O'Neill, Canavan and Brian McGuigan all playing superbly well.

The 08 forward line had Tommy McGuigan, McCullagh etc.

Anyway, back on topic, thought we'd be hammered after the quarters but feeling more confident that we'll make a game out of it.

Agreed-the 2 matches against dublin, the semi V Armagh, and the final v Kerry-was at them all-I dont think any team has ever been involved in so many great matches in 1 year. They were a fantastic side.

The 08 side werent as good going forward with Canavan gone, and ONeill, Mulligan and McGuigan pale shadows of their 05 brilliance.

Having said that Cavanagh and Dooher were awesome that year.

BonnieSituation · 30-08-2014 12:57AM

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Mine too.

The end to that 2008 final is how I'd dream of Donegal winning one if they ever got the chance again.

They were such a brilliant side, Tyrone. I loved watching them. They're the best I've seen I think. I know people say the Kerry boys and now the Dubs but I would back that Tyrone side against anyone. They had that je ne sais quoi that the others didn't. Think it may be steel or northern grit. Possibly as a result of the tragedies that they have encountered on the way. McGirr, Omagh, Cormac.

That last ten minutes of the 08 final was a perfect encapsualation of the previous 60. It was alike a giant holding off a midget. A case of "anything you can do we can do better". I was sick to my stomach at HT though.

Alvin Holler wrote: »

Tyrone in 08 weren't a patch on 05, 08 was pretty much a one man show with Cavanagh doing everything. 05 had Mulligan, O'Neill, Canavan and Brian McGuigan all playing superbly well.

The 08 forward line had Tommy McGuigan, McCullagh etc.

Anyway, back on topic, thought we'd be hammered after the quarters but feeling more confident that we'll make a game out of it.

That's unfair to say that 2008 was such a lesser team: Ricey, Justin Mac, Conor Gormley, Marty Penrose, Tommy Guns, Seany, Brian Dooher, Mugsy and Stevie O'Neill. Quality.

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

Agreed, the 2005 team was a superb team with a lot of them at the top of their game.

Agreed. I don't think there's issues with that. I think the love for the 08 side had a lot to do with how they put themselves about that year and the quality of football they played throughout and the fact that they were without Wee Peter at that stage.

K-9 wrote: »

True enough, I just preferred the style of football more in 08, the annihilation of Dublin was spectacular at times.

I couldn't help but applaud them for that performance. They were magnificent.

Ed Winchester wrote: »

Wasn't a great dubs team though.

True enough but we weren't terrible and we were Leinster Champions who were expecting to get close in 2008.

K-9 wrote: »

Down beat them after a replay in 2 classics. The counter attacking style for me was the basis of Donegal in 2012 and Dublin or Mayo now, the likes of Ricey or Justin McMahon up in the FF line at times.

Donegal 2012 were almost a carbon copy except with less talented footballers. I say less... Not that Donegal are crap. That Tyrone team were exceptional.

I think Dublin since 2013 has moved that template on a bit but it's clear that Mickey Harte's teams are the blueprint.

Past30Now wrote: »

It's the only time I ever left a match early. We'd lost two semi finals in a row and it felt that we were on the verge of a breakthrough. Pillar Caffrey had done a great job with the team, but that was a sickener. The 05 team for Tyrone was better than the 08 team, but that performance by them was excellent.

My tickets were hungover and stayed in Blanchardstown and couldn't face the trip in the rain. I could have murdered him. The worst part was that I lived on Distillery Road of the Clonliffe and anytime there was a score I heard it down the chimney before it happend on TV.

davidfitz22 · 30-08-2014 01:46AM

corny wrote: »

So have i and i'm from Dublin:D

In fairness it's not as cringe worthy and pompous as 'jimmies winning matches'

EunanMac · 30-08-2014 01:48AM

davidfitz22 wrote: »

In fairness it's not as cringe worthy and pompous as 'jimmies winning matches'

Ahh c'mon, the you tube video with the black lad was fun, along with the topless sunbathers in the background.

corny · 30-08-2014 11:26AM

davidfitz22 wrote: »

In fairness it's not as cringe worthy and pompous as 'jimmies winning matches'

Nah at least that was catchy. Wasn't meant to be taken too seriously. The lad in the Dublin video thinks he's Rudyard Kipling!

Stoner · 30-08-2014 11:32AM

harpsman wrote: »

But like yourself, despite the lack of class then and of this specimin Id still support Mayo if theyre playin Dublin in the final. Most of them are top people,includin the old man!!Suppose some of us have a bit o "breedin" as they say

I know exactly what you mean. I'll still support mayo if and when they play Donegal.

TouchingVirus · 30-08-2014 11:34AM

My thoughts for the last two weeks when I wake up: "Eugh, this isn't the 31st

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harpsman · 30-08-2014 02:11PM

Stoner wrote: »

I know exactly what you mean. I'll still support mayo if and when they play Donegal.

You know youre doing something right when the neutrals are shoutin for your opponents. There was a time when Donegal and Mayo were loveable losers. Theyre not loveble these days!!

CurryFlavoured · 30-08-2014 02:53PM

Donegal team announced yet?

2moreMinutes · 30-08-2014 03:30PM

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

Donegal team announced yet?

Didn't see anything yet but sure would you believe it if you did see it anyway?

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