How much € should parents take off grown-up children towards their keep per week

764dak · 07-08-2014 07:37PM

Recondite49 wrote: »

Yes, if the parents move in with the children they should pay rent, however in that case I wouldn't save up a portion of it as it's likely your parents will be more financially savvy than a young Jobseeker.

Since the Obamas live at the taxpayers' expense, your point is fairly moot.

When they move out of the White House she would be still living with them so she should pay rent.

Electric Sheep · 07-08-2014 07:42PM

I don't see giving your parents money if you are living at home as paying rent, but as paying for your keep. In other words, paying for your share of the running of the household - food, power, heat, insurance, maintenance, and all the other overheads. I think part of the problem for some posters is that they have absolutely no idea what this costs.

UCDVet · 07-08-2014 07:50PM

Recondite49 wrote: »

Yes, if the parents move in with the children they should pay rent, however in that case I wouldn't save up a portion of it as it's likely your parents will be more financially savvy than a young Jobseeker.

Since the Obamas live at the taxpayers' expense, your point is fairly moot.

That's an awfully misleading thing to say.

All public workers are compensated via taxpayers. Part of the US Presidents compensation is 'corporate housing' in the form of the White House.

Implying that it's not something they've 'earned' is ridiculous. If I were to steal 10 USD from Obama's pocket, would you say, 'Well, it's moot, since Obama is paid from the taxpayers.'?

minidazzler · 07-08-2014 07:54PM

I pay €50 a week. I only use the bed and charge my phone. Cooking as well, but whenever I cook it's a family meal and I usually am the one to buy the ingredients. I'd pay more if I could, but right now, I have drinking to do.

John_Rambo · 09-08-2014 06:49AM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

I hate having clothes on a clothes horse for days, and I'm very particular about having clothes very dry so always want them to spend time on a radiator and/or have gone through a dryer. We have a dryer at home and the heat is used even during the summer for heating water

Ah in fairness, he's very particular about having his clothes very dry and he doesn't like clothes horses in his own house. What Irish mammy could refuse those demands?

Dord · 09-08-2014 09:22AM

It's not about paying "rent" as a general thing. It's about contributing towards the running of the house with food, utilities, etc. I haven't been living at home for several years now, but when I did, I gave money each month to help out. I think it helps people to get ready for the costs involved outside the family home also. I think it was around 200 or 250 a month that I was giving to them. It would have been around 10-15% at the time.

09-08-2014 09:41AM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Ah in fairness, he's very particular about having his clothes very dry and he doesn't like clothes horses in his own house. What Irish mammy could refuse those demands?

And I couldn't give damn what people think, a few flawed opinions on how people should nearly cut ties with home and their family once they reach a certain age aren't going to change how I do things.

kylith · 09-08-2014 10:08AM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

And I couldn't give damn what people think, a few flawed opinions on how people should nearly cut ties with home and their family once they reach a certain age aren't going to change how I do things.

Not cut ties, but stand on their own two feet and not expect their ageing mother to wash their jocks.

09-08-2014 10:29AM

kylith wrote: »

Not cut ties, but stand on their own two feet and not expect their ageing mother to wash their jocks.

Where did I say I expect it? If you read my posts you will see that I said yes sometimes I'm told to just throw it in with the other washing and other times I do some/all if it myself I also do my washing in my rented accommodation sometimes but usually it suits better to bring it home.

Really people have some very black and white rules they "have" to follow. You can't bring washing home, you can't call your home house home (yet some temporary rented place should be that's not much more than a hotel to you) , you shouldn't still have a room at home once you are not living there full time (even though you are back home very regularly), you shouldn't be keeping your stuff at home in your house where is acres of space once you reach a certain age etc etc. These are some of the nonsensical statements posted on this thread, statements which make me think some people are living in a different world altogether.

Tilly · 09-08-2014 10:32AM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

Where did I say I expect it? If you read my posts you will see that I said yes sometimes I'm told to just throw it in with the other washing and other times I do some/all if it myself I also do my washing in my rented accommodation sometimes but usually it suits better to bring it home.

Really people have some very black and white rules they "have" to follow. You can't bring washing home, you can't call your home house home, you shouldn't still have a room at home once you are not living there full time (even though you are back home very regularly), you shouldn't be keeping your stuff at home in your house where is acres of space once you reach a certain age etc etc. These are some of the nonsensical statements posted on this thread, statements which make me think some people are living in a different world altogether.

I'm really enjoying your posts. Proper laugh out loud. Keep up the good work

John_Rambo · 09-08-2014 11:29AM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

usually it suits better to bring it home

I guess it would suit me too! But I feel their rearing is done by now.

kylith · 09-08-2014 11:36AM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

Where did I say I expect it? If you read my posts you will see that I said yes sometimes I'm told to just throw it in with the other washing and other times I do some/all if it myself I also do my washing in my rented accommodation sometimes but usually it suits better to bring it home.

You bring your washing to your parents' house in the first place. How is that not expecting it to be done? Or do you just like to carry dirty laundry around in case it comes in handy?

Tokyo · 09-08-2014 11:40AM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

usually it suits better to bring it home.

I'm only down the road from you - and it suits me better to bring my laundry to your home too. Good man - I'll be round this afternoon to drop it off.

09-08-2014 12:04PM

kylith wrote: »

You bring your washing to your parents' house in the first place. How is that not expecting it to be done? Or do you just like to carry dirty laundry around in case it comes in handy?

Well as the weekend tends to be the normal time for doing washing and the fact I go home a lot at weekends then it's not that hard to see why it suits better. I also might be leaving stuff at home in my wardrobe there so makes more sense to wash it at home.

Also enough with the parents house crap, it's my home. They had a right laugh when I was telling them about the opinions in this thread at breakfast this morning, couldn't get their heads around the mentalities at all.

Tilly · 09-08-2014 12:10PM

You told mammy and daddy on the crazy boards people? This is gold, folks

rob316 · 09-08-2014 12:26PM

I was earning 450 per week after I finished school and gave €80 per week, it was €100 per week in the winter months to cover extra heating.
My god what a bargain thinking back on it food, beer, washing, ironing and cleaning all covered.

I was never asked for it I just gave it. Always felt it was the right thing to do and both my parents worked, not wealthy but no one did without much. It's not rent it's contributing to the home.

hynesie08 · 09-08-2014 12:58PM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

Also enough with the parents house crap, it's my home. They had a right laugh when I was telling them about the opinions in this thread at breakfast this morning, couldn't get their heads around the mentalities at all.

I'm surprised your mam had time to laugh, I'd imagine she'd be busy cutting up your sausages and wiping the sauce of your chin.

John_Rambo · 09-08-2014 01:00PM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

Also enough with the parents house crap, it's my home. They had a right laugh when I was telling them about the opinions in this thread at breakfast this morning, couldn't get their heads around the mentalities at all.

Nox, you joined the thread ridiculing people for contributing to the household, now all of a sudden it's "enough with the parents house crap" when you realise you're part of a spoilt minority! It's your folks home man... Not yours!

I'm sure there was a private look between your parents as you regaled this story to them!

What's normal for you is not the norm for most people. You're obviously heavily reliant on your parents, I'd hazard a guess you're not going to bother buying a house because you feel at some stage you're going to get the family home?

zarquon · 09-08-2014 01:19PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Nox, you joined the thread ridiculing people for contributing to the household, now all of a sudden it's "enough with the parents house crap" when you realise you're part of a spoilt minority! It's your folks home man... Not yours!

I'm sure there was a private look between your parents as you regaled this story to them!

What's normal for you is not the norm for most people. You're obviously heavily reliant on your parents, I'd hazard a guess you're not going to bother buying a house because you feel at some stage you're going to get the family home?

+1/ There is comedy gold in this thread. It is not normal to still be cared for by parents when you are in your late twenties. Of course discussing the situation with the "Irish Mammy" who only fuels this abnormal behavior is going to lead to confusion by the Mammy who treats her adult kids as if they are still adolescents.

People who lack maturity and responsibility still hang on to their mothers apron strings for far too long. The attitudes here are symptomatic of man child syndrome.

Parents have themselves to blame though. They over parent their children to the point where they cannot stand up on their own 2 feet independently. I know some foreign girls who have asked me about this as they find the relationship that some Irish Mothers have to their sons to be very strange and unhealthy and have negative effects on the personality and maturity of some irish men. Whilst it may be common place for some Irish men to display the same atitudes and lifestyle as Nox, it is not normal for most people, especially if you are not Irish. The greatest concern expressed to me by some of these girls is that the men in question only seem to be looking for a girlfriend of wife to eventually take the place of their mother's role in their lives.

It was often noted and asked of me during my twenties why i seemed to be much more mature that my peers of the same age. The answer for me was very simple. I moved out of the home when i was 17, put myself through college without parental support and lived independently since that age. Moving away from home at that age was the best thing i ever did. I'd hate to display the same level of immature thinking that some others on thread do

John_Rambo · 09-08-2014 01:31PM

zarquon wrote: »

The answer for me was very simply. I moved out of the home when i was 17, put myself through college without parental support and lived independently since that age

Well, that's unusual too! I'd say you're in a minority there! Most of my peers parents would have paid for most of the college years. Things slowly change and now I find a lot of us contributing towards our parents lifestyles. Buying them the things they'd deem "extravagant"!!

Nox, I hope you arrived up for breakfast with a heavy butchers bag this morning!!

titan18 · 09-08-2014 01:54PM

I give my parents 450 a month. It's about 25%.

Don't want to leave home, and my parents don't want me to either, so only seems right that I give some money up when I'm living there. I'd be doing nothing else with it

zarquon · 09-08-2014 01:59PM

John_Rambo wrote: »

Well, that's unusual too! I'd say you're in a minority there! Most of my peers parents would have paid for most of the college years. Things slowly change and now I find a lot of us contributing towards our parents lifestyles. Buying them the things they'd deem "extravagant"!!

Nox, I hope you arrived up for breakfast with a heavy butchers bag this morning!!

Agreed, it is the other extreme but serves to show that one's maturity levels are linked to the level of independence experienced at younger ages.

I've been washing my own jocks and wiping my own arse for a long time. It's a shame others prefer "mammy" to help with those things. If you've been "suckling" all your life you probably think it's all normal and acceptable.

Tarzana · 09-08-2014 02:16PM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

Both my sisters are not living at home and both have their own bedrooms also where they keep most of their stuff. This is perfectly normal procedure. Why wouldn't I keep stuff at home, especially as its there I will most likely need most of it?

I keep most of my stuff where I need them, in the place where I live, my rental apartment. I have a handful of things at home, that's all. My room is my room at home, but to be honest, a lot of the time, my parents use it for storage. Why wouldn't they?

Tarzana · 09-08-2014 02:18PM

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

And I couldn't give damn what people think, a few flawed opinions on how people should nearly cut ties with home and their family once they reach a certain age aren't going to change how I do things.

What makes those opinions "flawed"?

zarquon · 09-08-2014 02:23PM

Tarzana wrote: »

What makes those opinions "flawed"?

They conflict with his own immature thinking therefore they are "flawed" :rolleyes:

Kash Noisy Room wrote: »

They had a right laugh when I was telling them about the opinions in this thread at breakfast this morning, couldn't get their heads around the mentalities at all.

North Koreans would also have a right laugh if outsiders told them that kim jong un wasn't a supreme being. Just because one is conditioned into a communal belief does not make it true. In fact such conditioning also removes objectivity.

People engaged in abnormal behaviour thinks they are normal. Society has long moved on from your way of thinking but your family is still holding on to archaic thinking. Will you only move out fully once you get married to a potential wife/"new mammy"? If either you or your parents have issues letting go of the apron strings, what will happen when the kids have potential spouses in the scenario?

Wacker The Attacker · 09-08-2014 02:57PM

a blanket **** ban should be put in place

oppenheimer1 · 09-08-2014 02:58PM

zarquon wrote: »

+1/ There is comedy gold in this thread. It is not normal to still be cared for by parents when you are in your late twenties. Of course discussing the situation with the "Irish Mammy" who only fuels this abnormal behavior is going to lead to confusion by the Mammy who treats her adult kids as if they are still adolescents.

People who lack maturity and responsibility still hang on to their mothers apron strings for far too long. The attitudes here are symptomatic of man child syndrome.

Parents have themselves to blame though. They over parent their children to the point where they cannot stand up on their own 2 feet independently. I know some foreign girls who have asked me about this as they find the relationship that some Irish Mothers have to their sons to be very strange and unhealthy and have negative effects on the personality and maturity of some irish men. Whilst it may be common place for some Irish men to display the same atitudes and lifestyle as Nox, it is not normal for most people, especially if you are not Irish. The greatest concern expressed to me by some of these girls is that the men in question only seem to be looking for a girlfriend of wife to eventually take the place of their mother's role in their lives.

It was often noted and asked of me during my twenties why i seemed to be much more mature that my peers of the same age. The answer for me was very simple. I moved out of the home when i was 17, put myself through college without parental support and lived independently since that age. Moving away from home at that age was the best thing i ever did. I'd hate to display the same level of immature thinking that some others on thread do

What's worked for you doesn't mean it will work for everyone else. In fact if every graduate had to support themselves fully while in college very few would be able to under take it. Many of the science courses have such long hours that it would not be physically possible to work enough hours to support yourself and finish the course successfully.

Adult children living at home is going to be a growing phenomenon especially in Dublin over the next few years, and become the new normal. Lack of value in the rental sector will drive it. Those that leave home later will find themselves in a better place financially than those forced to leave home.

Micky Dolenz · 09-08-2014 03:07PM

In Italy it is extremely common for people in their 30's to be living at home. I was shocked to hear that it is also very very common for the parents to buy their childs first home. Suppose it's the only sure way of getting shot of them

I'd rather live in the street than have me Ma still washing my jocks.

Rachiee · 09-08-2014 03:12PM

100 is fair anything over that would be market rate which i don't see a reason for and wouldn't allow them to save.

Johngoose · 09-08-2014 03:15PM

Depends on their wages essentially...What you think is fair based on what they are earning and what bills and mortgage have to be paid.

How much € should parents take off grown-up children towards their keep per week

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