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How much € should parents take off grown-up children towards their keep per week

  • 03-08-2014 6:48pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭acon2119


    How much is the average amount of money grown up kids living with their parents pay towards their keep per week. I have a 20 year old who had a few part time jobs with varying amounts of hours per week and I have never took money from them so far but now they are starting a job working 35 hrs per week at minimum wage and I really could do with them contributing to their share a bit as money is very tight. This 20 yr old has a car which the running of it is fully financed by themselves. I would love to hear an opinion from other parents in this situation.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Awkward Badger


    Enough to cover their portion of the bills.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    I used to chip in €50 or so a week(easily), buy the shopping as well for the small household. If the phone bill was high or Sky, I'd chip in as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭Drexel


    acon2119 wrote: »
    How much is the average amount of money grown up kids living with their parents pay towards their keep per week. I have a 20 year old who had a few part time jobs with varying amounts of hours per week and I have never took money from them so far but now they are starting a job working 35 hrs per week at minimum wage and I really could do with them contributing to their share a bit as money is very tight. This 20 yr old has a car which the running of it is fully financed by themselves. I would love to hear an opinion from other parents in this situation.

    I was made hand up 1/3 of what I earned to housekeep. I'm better for it too. Friends who had to give nothing struggled to adapt to living out of home. Always late / missing rent and so on. I don't know would


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember


    Depend how much water food and energy they consume. Market rates would have to apply to rooms. If they are having regular sex with partner or one night stands then a bonking tax.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Enough to cover their portion of the bills.

    Why not rent?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    €15.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    ONE FIDDY...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭A Greedy Algorithm


    None.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Awkward Badger


    Why not rent?

    If there is rent to be paid or a mortgage they should contribute to that. Otherwise I don't really see a need to make them pay rent to live in what is their home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭dmc17


    You should pay them to stay with you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    If he is earning roughly €300 per week then I think between 80-100 is an acceptable figure

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Easy for example a house hold of 3 adults, Look at the bills for the year average it and split 3 ways. So unless they are out most nights and only coming back to sleep they are using a 3rd of the upkeep of the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    If there is rent to be paid or a mortgage they should contribute to that. Otherwise I don't really see a need to make them pay rent to live in what is their home.

    Near full time hour at min wage I would say about €70 euro.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    I think 25% is fair. That's assuming you don't buy their food, transport etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Recondite49


    acon2119 wrote: »
    How much is the average amount of money grown up kids living with their parents pay towards their keep per week. I have a 20 year old who had a few part time jobs with varying amounts of hours per week and I have never took money from them so far but now they are starting a job working 35 hrs per week at minimum wage and I really could do with them contributing to their share a bit as moneay is very tight. This 20 yr old has a car which the running of it is fully financed by themselves. I would love to hear an opinion from other parents in this situation.

    Hi acon,

    I would suggest that you charge €150 for bed and board for someone working a 35 hour week on minimum wage.

    While this sounds a large amount, you will be giving your kid a realistic sense of how much it costs "out there" - indeed some people pay a good deal more than this!

    Also you don't have to spend the full amount. Anything left over each week you can put into a savings account for your kid for when they move out - they'll need to come up with a deposit and one month's rent after all.

    I know other posters may feel that saving up is the young person's responsibility but at least this way they'll have something when they leave.

    Also if you don't charge an amount commensurate with the cost of living there's not much incentive for them to fly the nest! :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    There's no set amount. Just split bills and other outgoings between all living in the household. Might not be an even split (differing amounts of usage, differing incomes) but something should be contributed by all living there and working.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    Do what my mother did, charge the girls and not the lads. Housekeeping, bills, buy our own food...the lads were earning more and drinking it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭jamesbondings


    I think one third Is fair. One third of wages to you, one third goes to savings and one third to spend however they like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    acon2119 wrote: »
    How much is the average amount of money grown up kids living with their parents pay towards their keep per week. I have a 20 year old who had a few part time jobs with varying amounts of hours per week and I have never took money from them so far but now they are starting a job working 35 hrs per week at minimum wage and I really could do with them contributing to their share a bit as money is very tight. This 20 yr old has a car which the running of it is fully financed by themselves. I would love to hear an opinion from other parents in this situation.

    I don't see why he should contribute nothing if he's working. Our parents take 40% of our money if we want to live at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭Drexel


    Do what my mother did, charge the girls and not the lads. Housekeeping, bills, buy our own food...the lads were earning more and drinking it.

    I've seen this type of thing before on boards. The boys in the house werent expected to help with anything in the house or give up any money but the girls were. Very strange


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭JerCotter7


    Everytime this topic comes up I am amazed. I have never heard anyone talking about paying to live at home. Most parents I know just love to have their kids at home. If I said it to my parents they would just laugh at me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    €300 p/m and an equal share in all bills including grocery bills.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭Fresh Pots


    JerCotter7 wrote: »
    Everytime this topic comes up I am amazed. I have never heard anyone talking about paying to live at home. Most parents I know just love to have their kids at home. If I said it to my parents they would just laugh at me.

    Your parents looking to adopt?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    JerCotter7 wrote: »
    Everytime this topic comes up I am amazed. I have never heard anyone talking about paying to live at home. Most parents I know just love to have their kids at home. If I said it to my parents they would just laugh at me.
    Amazed at the prospect of people working full-time and contributing towards bills and other household outgoings? :confused:

    It's not "paying to live at home". Why should any working adult get free electricity/heating/food/TV/internet/more?

    I agree it should be proportionate to income and usage (I don't agree with lump sums being thrown out like €300, a third etc) but not paying anything and effectively expecting your parents to pay for the household expenses you incur, as if you were a child, is pretty crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭Drexel


    JerCotter7 wrote: »
    Everytime this topic comes up I am amazed. I have never heard anyone talking about paying to live at home. Most parents I know just love to have their kids at home. If I said it to my parents they would just laugh at me.

    Ah you need to prepare people for the real world. They are adults and need to pay their way in the world. Even if I was never asked to hand something up I would have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    jonny666 wrote: »
    I've seen this type of thing before on boards. The boys in the house werent expected to help with anything in the house or give up any money but the girls were. Very strange

    It boils my piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭smileyj1987


    Divide up the bills that come in the door for the amount of adults in the house and that's the figure you need to charge . So that would be shopping , electricity , sky /UPC and any other bill that the house has .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,136 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    It boils my piss.

    You might want to get that checked out!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭lulu1


    JerCotter7 wrote: »
    Everytime this topic comes up I am amazed. I have never heard anyone talking about paying to live at home. Most parents I know just love to have their kids at home. If I said it to my parents they would just laugh at me.

    I dont see why they dont have to give something towards the bills especially if they are working full time. I wouldn't call it paying to live at home. Dont see why their parents have to pay for everything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭acon2119


    JerCotter7 wrote: »
    Everytime this topic comes up I am amazed. I have never heard anyone talking about paying to live at home. Most parents I know just love to have their kids at home. If I said it to my parents they would just laugh at me.

    Lucky for you your parents must be comfortably well off, but the reality for most people is that its not always easy to meet the many bills that have to be paid to keep a family even a small family and home. I love having my kids at home but it costs a lot of money and the decent thing is to help pay your way in life. Kids will never have the inclination to get fully independent of their parents if their parents keep carrying them financially


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    I 'earn' 188 and give 25 and buy my own food.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    I moved home temporarily when I wasn't working, so I wasn't expected to contribute anything, but working and contributing nothing is just taking the piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    JerCotter7 wrote: »
    Everytime this topic comes up I am amazed. I have never heard anyone talking about paying to live at home. Most parents I know just love to have their kids at home. If I said it to my parents they would just laugh at me.
    Yeah food and other household expenses are for nothing these days :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,486 ✭✭✭Redshift


    I used to hand up 1/3 of what ever I earned when I was at home right from the very first pay packet. My brothers were the same. Once we finished school the free ride was over and we were expected to pay our own way.
    I think it was a great deal , I wish I could cover my accommodation, food and bills with a third of my salary now.
    I know people living at home earning good money who don't hand up anything it's the height of meanness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    I used to pay £50, what ever that equats to now. So did all my other cousins growing up in london. When my irish cousins heard we paid housekeeping, they were shocked at such an arrangement.

    Your earning money, why not pay your share of the bills.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    I've lived at home. Between rental homes and while saving and offered money but my folks would say you're at home there's no need. I would chip in 50 a week and just pick up stuff at shop if needed. The "payment" expected of me was a days work around the house painting odd jobs etc.. my parents aren't well off by the way


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    I used to pay £50, what ever that equats to now. So did all my other cousins growing up in london. When my irish cousins heard we paid housekeeping, they were shocked at such an arrangement.
    Irish mammy syndrome "We can't be getting the poor craythurs to pay us something!" :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    25/30% minimum


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭gstack166


    If he is earning roughly €300 per week then I think between 80-100 is an acceptable figure

    €80-€100 out of €300 a week? You're a mad man. It's a bed they are paying for, not a rent boy, you're in the wrong thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    gstack166 wrote: »
    €80-€100 out of €300 a week? You're a mad man. It's a bed they are paying for, not a rent boy, you're in the wrong thread.

    So just a bed. No food, elec, gas, heating etc?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    gstack166 wrote: »
    €80-€100 out of €300 a week? You're a mad man. It's a bed they are paying for, not a rent boy, you're in the wrong thread.
    Well it's more than a bed, but I think 80 to 100 out of 300 does seem way too steep also. I agree with making a contribution but don't see a need for a harshly high one either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭lulu1


    gstack166 wrote: »
    €80-€100 out of €300 a week? You're a mad man. It's a bed they are paying for, not a rent boy, you're in the wrong thread.

    What about food washing cooking cleaning esb internet need I go on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    I'll probably be living with my parents soon, for a few weeks even a 2-3 months (hopefully not that long, but who knows?).

    They won't ask for money.
    I'll offer to pay rent, they'll tell me no.

    I'll end up doing a bunch of chores around the house to help out and I'll try to do more than my fair share of shopping for household stuff (so that I'll be paying for groceries).

    Having said that, they're doing pretty well financially. So the additional cost of me and my husband hanging around won't be a concern for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    Ive been living at home the past few years, I did move out for a couple of years after college but moved back cos of circumstances, Ive never been asked to give up anything, as of yet anyway

    Im on the dole so I get 188e a week, till i get a job hopefully soon :rolleyes::P, I pay for my own food, different things I may need, toiletries etc, internet as Im the only one in the house who uses it so far anyway and pretty much look after myself with cooking etc

    Most of my friends live at home right now and give up about 50e a week as rent/housekeeping, but their food, cooking daily essentials like that are taken care ofby their parents also so that makes sense to give up 50e or something in that instance

    My parents are separated, and over the past 4-5 years give or take my mother has depression and the like, is near retirement age, gets meals on wheels etc and seems quite comfortable so doesnt work but gets benefits etc so housekeeping/cleaning/cooking is mostly left up to me
    My father lives in the family home, is retired so spends a few months a year away with the gf to which I housesit his house a few times a week, pay the bills for those few months and whatever I need

    Giving up money at home, imho, is subjective to your situation imho, also being an only child may be different to most too :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Magaggie wrote: »
    Well it's more than a bed, but I think 80 to 100 out of 300 does seem way too steep also. I agree with making a contribution but don't see a need for a harshly high one either.

    Do people in the real world get to chose how much of their wage goes on bills rent and so on ? No. That thinking is like wanting to keep the majority of the money to spend as they chose. People in the real world don’t get to do that. They get to use what's left after bills rent and all that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    bumper234 wrote: »
    So just a bed. No food, elec, gas, heating etc?

    I'm currently in a 2-bed/2-bath place. I have a roommate that is back and forth between here and Canada. Everything is in my name, so I pay the bills and the rent, and she pays me.

    Most of the utilities don't change when she's gone verse here. UPC costs the same, still need to heat the place. Waste removal costs the same too. I thought I'd notice a difference in the electricity bill, but it must be pretty small.

    Food would be the big one for us - though I'm sure it could be different for others. But yeah, I expected to see a lot more of a difference. To be honest, when she left for the summer I was really hoping the electric bill would drop a lot, but it didn't :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    €50 a week is generally what most people I know give.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,876 ✭✭✭deelite


    We all contributed in our parents house the only time our parents wouldn't take money (six months max.) was when deposits were being saved to buy first homes. But if the parents got an inkling that money was being squandered ie., by going out on the beer, having hair done, buying stupid things the deal was off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Do people in the real world get to chose how much of their wage goes on bills rent and so on ? No. That thinking is like wanting to keep the majority of the money to spend as they chose. People in the real world don’t get to do that. They get to use what's left after bills rent and all that.

    Yes? you keep the bills low and live somewhere cheap if you don't want to pay high bills. I lived on my own for months and the highest esb bill I got was 60 for 2 months, the gas was 19 euro and that was used for cooking almost every night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    jonny666 wrote: »
    I was made hand up 1/3 of what I earned to housekeep. I'm better for it too. Friends who had to give nothing struggled to adapt to living out of home. Always late / missing rent and so on. I don't know would
    I never had to hand up and was perfectly capable of surviving on my own with everything paid on time.


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