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Is the Irish Independent the most right wing paper in the country?

  • 08-08-2014 08:18PM
    #1
    BazPM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭


    It seems that the Irish independent has a very conservative, right wing and anti immigrant agenda. The paper dedicates a disproportionate amount of coverage to immigrants and it's one of the few publications that feels the need to consistently state whether the accused or perpetrator is foreign national or not in any article. The comments section on the independent is something to behold. Look at the comments on this article for example http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/dublin-dad-elected-as-mayor-of-tripoli-in-libya-30492455.html#sthash.YQxJ6vjI

    the paper was also very pro Israeli and even today had a headline about a 10 year old Palestinian being shot dead with a picture of an unrelated Palestinian child carrying a fake rifle with a Hamas headband.

    What are people's opinions?


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  • #2
    FierceMild
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭FierceMild


    If Independent bothers you OP, then you should get a copy of Alive!


  • #3
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Best horoscopes in the country!

    I've only started reading Alive! recently since a poster on here was advertising it, and it is great!


  • #4
    AnonoBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Is the Mail not more right wing?


  • #5
    ComputerKing
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 770 ✭✭✭ComputerKing


    The independent is an absolute rag.


  • #6
    wazky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    The Farmers Journal is, followed by Nazi Publications weekly.


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  • #7
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    It's pretty right-leaning in places yeh - mad for entrepreneurs, hates public sector/semi-states, Sir Tony is mad for the Israeli government, anti nationalism (in relation to N.I.) and flogged a pro Bush administration agenda back in the day. The first two... I don't know that they are right-wing ideologies in and of themselves, but they do tend to be embraced by blindly right-wing people. John Waters now writes for it.

    Don't know about it being the most right-wing paper in the country though.


  • #8
    bboybaboy19
    Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭bboybaboy19


    catallus wrote: »
    Best horoscopes in the country!

    I've only started reading Alive! recently since a poster on here was advertising it, and it is great!

    Man you must be a professional troll..or really old.


  • #9
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Well Alive! is good for a laugh in fairness.


  • #10
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    bboybaboy19 wrote: »
    Man you must be a professional troll..or really old.

    Just to clarify: The indo has pretty good horoscopes, not Alive!


  • #11
    Manach
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 9,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    It would seem that people have certain standards for papers
    - does it agree with my world view, implies a true and trusted media outlet of the highest calibre
    - if not, a rag.

    Given how much in editions past the Independent had raillied against certain sections of the institutions of the state, to call it conservative might be a stretch.


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  • #12
    Macavity.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    I don't know about "most right wing", it just seems like a very unreliable paper with poor quality journalism. A lot of news stories with key details left out, and in some cases just lies (eg. the rabbit who wasn't really dead, which begs the question; why was there a story about a rabbit in the first place?)


  • #13
    B0jangles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    The Indo is just a rag, plain and simple.

    A couple of weeks ago they ran an opinion piece about so-called "creepshots" and the blatant objectification of random women on various websites, while simultanously running at least 4 other articles which were entirely about the bra-state and and visibility of Kim Kardashian's breasts.


  • #14
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Alive magazine. Would have thought this would have been fairly obvious. Independent is a bag of shyte. It's not the most right wing though.


  • #15
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    I wouldn't give Denis o Brien a cent of my money!


  • #16
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    You forgot the exclamation point (!) after the word Alive.

    It's Alive!


  • #17
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    catallus wrote: »
    You forgot the exclamation point (!) after the word Alive.

    It's Alive!

    No it's not it's clearly inanimate. Just paper, nothing more.


  • #18
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Turtwig wrote: »
    No it's not it's clearly inanimate. Just paper, nothing more.

    Sigh.

    What about the message inside!? Then it might be considered to be a thing that invigorates the mind of living things? :)

    Would that not be considered to be Alive! in a sense?


  • #19
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Alive! is left-wing, surely? It is in favour of state-control, or common ownership, over a woman's body rather than that individual's choice.


  • #20
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Magaggie wrote: »
    John Waters now writes for it.

    Kind of says it all, really. :)


  • #21
    MRnotlob606
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    The Irish Independent, hasn't been such a waste of paper since the last dysentery epidemic.


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  • #22
    dsmythy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,590 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    So what if it is. Variety is best.


  • #23
    Cantremember
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember


    I haven't read a newspaper for years. I get all the cat stories I want on Reddit.


  • #24
    maxwell smart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,941 ✭✭✭maxwell smart


    Magaggie wrote: »
    It's pretty right-leaning in places yeh - mad for entrepreneurs, hates public sector/semi-states, Sir Tony is mad for the Israeli government, anti nationalism (in relation to N.I.) and flogged a pro Bush administration agenda back in the day.

    Just to clarify, you know Anto has bugger all to do with it now ever since he picked a knife fight with a fella with a bazooka? (Denis)


  • #25
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    Alive! is left-wing, surely? It is in favour of state-control, or common ownership, over a woman's body rather than that individual's choice.

    Authoritarianism exist on both sides of the spectrum.

    http://www.educationforum.co.uk/sociology_2/Political_chart.jpg


  • #26
    Awkward Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Awkward Badger


    Its a rag but its not right wing or pro Israel. In fact the Israeli embassy press chief sent in a letter to the editor accusing them and all other Irish media of having a sheer hatred for Israel.

    Then again the Israeli embassy staff are extreme right wing nutjobs.
    Hatred behind criticism

    It needs to be asked why people never get emotional and righteousness about other conflicts in the world, only whenever a conflict involves Israel. Over the past three years hundreds of thousands of Muslims Arabs have been killed by other Muslim Arabs and the ancient Christian communities in the Arab world have been systematically destroyed. Yet the letters pages of Irish newspapers have been empty about all that.

    Also, thousands of Palestinians have been killed in Syria in recent years, yet nothing has been said about that either. One can only conclude that such people have only one motive: sheer hatred of Israel.

    Dr Derek O'Flynn, Embassy of Israel


  • #27
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    catallus wrote: »
    Sigh.

    What about the message inside!? Then it might be considered to be a thing that invigorates the mind of living things? :)

    Would that not be considered to be Alive! in a sense?

    That's a unique description of bolloxology.


  • #28
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    BazPM wrote: »
    It seems that the Irish independent has a very conservative, right wing and anti immigrant agenda. The paper dedicates a disproportionate amount of coverage to immigrants and it's one of the few publications that feels the need to consistently state whether the accused or perpetrator is foreign national or not in any article. The comments section on the independent is something to behold. Look at the comments on this article for example http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/dublin-dad-elected-as-mayor-of-tripoli-in-libya-30492455.html#sthash.YQxJ6vjI

    the paper was also very pro Israeli and even today had a headline about a 10 year old Palestinian being shot dead with a picture of an unrelated Palestinian child carrying a fake rifle with a Hamas headband.

    What are people's opinions?

    All hail the dogooders


  • #29
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Hootanany wrote: »
    All hail the dogooders
    Wtf is this sh-t?


  • #30
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    One can only conclude that such people have only one motive: sheer hatred of Israel.

    Dr Derek O'Flynn, Embassy of Israel
    Wouldn't you think a diplomat would actually write like an adult instead of a whingey teenager.


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  • #31
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Its trying to out mail the Mail


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