Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Is the Irish Independent the most right wing paper in the country?

Options
24

Comments

  • Options
    #32
    spook_house
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭spook_house


    its a pretty poor paper but not because its centre right , the financial times is centre right yet is a good paper

    a decent right of centre newspaper would be welcome in ireland to counter the centre left editorial of the irish times and rte


  • Options
    #33
    Talib Fiasco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Got a serious craving for BBQ chicken wings now like...


  • Options
    #34
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,997 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    Alive! is left-wing, surely? It is in favour of state-control, or common ownership, over a woman's body rather than that individual's choice.

    Oh dear...

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Options
    #35
    spook_house
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭spook_house


    alive is not comparable on any level as its a religous publication in the same way the farmers journal doesnt focus on politics or global affairs outside its own specific focus


  • Options
    #36
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    In fairness, The FJ has a pretty wide editorial scope in relation to global affairs.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #37
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    I don't know OP, has anyone thought to ask Rosanna Davison for her opinion?


  • Options
    #38
    DarkyHughes
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭DarkyHughes


    Well Kevin Myers writes for it & he's to the right of Mussolini.


  • Options
    #39
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    I'd call Myers centre-right. John Waters though...


  • Options
    #40
    tritium
    Registered Users Posts: 7,437 ✭✭✭tritium


    Macavity. wrote: »
    I don't know about "most right wing", it just seems like a very unreliable paper with poor quality journalism. A lot of news stories with key details left out, and in some cases just lies (eg. the rabbit who wasn't really dead, which begs the question; why was there a story about a rabbit in the first place?)

    Very few Irish papers would be considered reliable or truthful. They just don't get caught out very often. Occasionally one of the overdoes it, e.g. the IT with their 'first Irish abortion'story and has to grovel a bit but usually they get away with it.

    Most Irish media has a slant, just depends on how much you agree with that slant. I'm sure many in do and IT readers would argue their paper is bang on centre even though both statements can't really be true.


  • Options
    #41
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,564 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The Irish Times left wing bias is far more blatant than the Independent's right wing bias imo.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #42
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,852 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Magaggie wrote: »
    I'd call Myers centre-right. John Waters though...

    How far to the right is "borderline-Dark Enlightenment"?


  • Options
    #43
    spook_house
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭spook_house


    DarkyHughes wrote: »
    Well Kevin Myers writes for it & he's to the right of Mussolini.

    good writer though


  • Options
    #44
    catallus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    How far to the right is "borderline-Dark Enlightenment"?

    An interesting question!

    One would have to burrow deep into a mind-set so bereft of original penetrating ideas that it has to set up a whole quasi-structure of imagined enemies that gives it a raison d'etre?


  • Options
    #45
    spook_house
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭spook_house


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    The Irish Times left wing bias is far more blatant than the Independent's right wing bias imo.

    yes but left of centre journalism is the mainstream in ireland


  • Options
    #46
    spook_house
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭spook_house


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    The Irish Times left wing bias is far more blatant than the Independent's right wing bias imo.

    the irish times is the labour party in print , rte is the labour party in sound and pictures

    ( socilism which lives in a nice part of town )


  • Options
    #47
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    And then others say RTE is right-wing. Guess it depends on your bias.


  • Options
    #48
    pauliebdub
    Registered Users Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭pauliebdub


    I'd say narrow minded, populist and sensationalist rather than particularly conservative. It's such a pile of ****e, we are very poorly serviced here media wise.


  • Options
    #49
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,176 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Right-wing? The Independent is the most harmless, middle-of-the-road, pro-whatever the government is at publication I've ever wiped my arse with.


  • Options
    #50
    spook_house
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭spook_house


    Magaggie wrote: »
    And then others say RTE is right-wing. Guess it depends on your bias.

    im trying hard to fathom how rte is right wing in any sense , its not radical left or anything close to it and its hard on sinn fein but it most certainly exudes that mary robinson kind of sensibilities , politically correct on all the vaguely controversial topical issues


  • Options
    #51
    spook_house
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭spook_house


    pauliebdub wrote: »
    I'd say narrow minded, populist and sensationalist rather than particularly conservative. It's such a pile of ****e, we are very poorly serviced here media wise.

    agree , the media here is at best lazy , at worst slavish

    rte were scandalously slow in doing their job when it came to the garda mc cabe and wilson story a few months ago , they may as well have been working for the garda press office


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #52
    pauliebdub
    Registered Users Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭pauliebdub


    spook_house wrote: »
    im trying hard to fathom how rte is right wing in any sense , its not radical left or anything close to it and its hard on sinn fein but it most certainly exudes that mary robinson kind of sensibilities , politically correct on all the vaguely controversial topical issues

    I think it's down to individual editors producers and presenters how left or right particular shows are slanted. For example on Rte news last week they covered the gay pride event in Belfast yet gave coverage to the handful of religious extremists protesting which had no real relevance to the event. However shows like morning Ireland could be perceived as being quite leftwing due to the approach it's presenters take to certain topics and groups.


  • Options
    #53
    thebaz
    Registered Users Posts: 13,602 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    BazPM wrote: »
    It seems that the Irish independent has a very conservative, right wing and anti immigrant agenda.
    What are people's opinions?

    don't think any Irish paper are has an anti-immigrant agenda - check the Mail or Express across the pond if you want anti-immigrant slant - in general i think immigrants get a pretty fair deal from the Irish media


  • Options
    #54
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    BazPM wrote: »
    It seems that the Irish independent has a very conservative, right wing and anti immigrant agenda. The paper dedicates a disproportionate amount of coverage to immigrants and it's one of the few publications that feels the need to consistently state whether the accused or perpetrator is foreign national or not in any article. The comments section on the independent is something to behold. Look at the comments on this article for example http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/dublin-dad-elected-as-mayor-of-tripoli-in-libya-30492455.html#sthash.YQxJ6vjI
    ?

    I want to know if a criminal is a foreign national or not. Foreign nationals are guests in this country and should behave themselves accordingly. If they break the law they should be deported. We can't deport our own scumbags but we can depot other countries scumbags.


  • Options
    #55
    LostBoy101
    Registered Users Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭LostBoy101


    Independent just write articles out of thin air without any evidence to back up their facts. Their policy is "paper doesn't refuse ink".


  • Options
    #56
    spook_house
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭spook_house


    thebaz wrote: »
    don't think any Irish paper are has an anti-immigrant agenda - check the Mail or Express across the pond if you want anti-immigrant slant - in general i think immigrants get a pretty fair deal from the Irish media

    As do travellers. despite. the rampant criminality


  • Options
    #57
    spook_house
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 ✭spook_house


    woodoo wrote: »
    I want to know if a criminal is a foreign national or not. Foreign nationals are guests in this country and should behave themselves accordingly. If they break the law they should be deported. We can't deport our own scumbags but we can depot other countries scumbags.

    Ditto with travellers , they want ethnic status so surely. should be identified as such in news reports , Wayne dundon wasn't identified as a traveller when sentenced recently


  • Options
    #58
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    spook_house wrote: »
    im trying hard to fathom how rte is right wing in any sense
    Conservative so.
    A lot of the agendas people talk about within the Irish media are in the imagination/due to confirmation bias.
    If you're in the centre you'll consider most Irish media to be pretty neutral. I don't think it's possible for any media outlet to be completely neutral (although the BBC is pretty good for it - I guess because it doesn't have an opinion/commentary platform?) but a slight natural bias does not make something on a par with Fox News/The Guardian.


  • Options
    #59
    Minjor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭Minjor


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Oh dear...

    I'd like to think that was lighthearted from Donkey there, i lold anyway.


  • Options
    #60
    Eramen
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    There is no 'right wing' paper in Ireland. The whole right vs left wing isn't even a thing over here, rather it's an imported Americanism, which some people mistakenly believe to be relevant to Irish life.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #61
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Magaggie wrote: »
    I don't think it's possible for any media outlet to be completely neutral (although the BBC is pretty good for it - I guess because it doesn't have an opinion/commentary platform?) but a slight natural bias does not make something on a par with Fox News/The Guardian.

    Reuters?


Advertisement