Waiting until Marriage.

RobertKK · 05-08-2014 02:27PM

Temporal Loop wrote: »

Why is "discretion" needed on an Internet forum whereby someone can't say the word penis. Seems more like childishness than discretion to me.

I don't see the problem with the word 'penis' either, it is just the correct name for a body part.

catallus · 05-08-2014 02:35PM

Temporal Loop wrote: »

I dislike the indirectness of it, as if it is shameful to say penis or one's preference for a particular size and shape of penis.

I think you're talking about penises a bit too much

Silverman11 · 05-08-2014 03:45PM

Nichololas wrote: »

1) You're 20, still basically a teenager and chock-full of hormones. I guarantee you that in a few years when that's levelled off somewhat you'll probably find that you don't have quite as high a sex-drive as you thought you did.

2) What if all your wife wants to do is peg you every night for the next 40 years? Or conversely - and possible given your target group - she decides that she doesn't really like sex all that much and will only have sex for procreation? Sex is not just about 'doing anything' for someone (unless you're really submissive in bed), but also about enjoying yourself and letting someone else enjoy you - no amount of romantic novels and frank conversations can actually substitute for experience in this and by assuming that 'oh but we love each other' is enough you are basically rolling the dice on having a happy, fulfilling life (of which sex is a part of).

3) You're arguing from complete ignorance and naivety. The vast majority of people who've replied in this thread and avoided the religious aspect have told you this is not a great idea. If you're not prepared to accept the answers don't keep asking the same question. People should not be attacking your Catholicism, but if you're not prepared to actually consider the alternatives because of your religious beliefs then why even ask in the first place?

I didn't ask if it was the right thing to do. I asked would many girls wait until marriage. So I don't know what you are on about.

RobertKK wrote: »

But one could die with a clear conscience if they lived a life according to their conscience.
I don't think one would be on their deathbed concerned they never had sex if that was the case.
You can't make a judgement by saying one is wasting their life on organised religion, it works very well for some people and is a source of happiness in itself.

My thinking exactly.

Philo Beddoe · 05-08-2014 03:48PM

Silverman11 wrote: »

I didn't ask if it was the right thing to do. I asked would many girls wait until marriage. So I don't know what you are on about.

You didn't answer the pegging question. :mad:

catallus · 05-08-2014 03:49PM

I'm presuming that the vast majority of women wouldn't be into something which was invented by pornography producers.

Insect Overlord · 05-08-2014 03:49PM

Silverman11 wrote: »

I didn't ask if it was the right thing to do. I asked would many girls wait until marriage. So I don't know what you are on about.

Eh...

Silverman11 wrote: »

I wonder if I can find a girl that will wait for me.

I am just looking for people's opinions really. Thanks

Be careful what you wish for...

Silverman11 · 05-08-2014 03:52PM

Philo Beddoe wrote: »

You didn't answer the pegging question. :mad:

I wouldn't be into that but I don't think many of the girls I am into would be into it either.

An File wrote: »

Eh...

Be careful what you wish for...

Opinions on my question. Where is the misunderstanding?

ibarelycare · 05-08-2014 03:55PM

Silverman since you're back, can you answer this?

ibarelycare wrote: »

would you just hold off on full intercourse? What about other sexual things? Where do you draw the line?

Philo Beddoe · 05-08-2014 03:56PM

catallus wrote: »

I'm presuming that the vast majority of women wouldn't be into something which was invented by pornography producers.

What other non-missionary straight-sex acts do you believe were invented by pornography producers?

Philo Beddoe · 05-08-2014 03:57PM

Silverman11 wrote: »

I wouldn't be into that but I don't think many of the girls I am into would be into it either.

How do you know?

catallus · 05-08-2014 03:57PM

Philo Beddoe wrote: »

What other non-missionary straight-sex acts do you believe were invented by pornography producers?

We should start a thread on it

ibarelycare wrote: »

Silverman since you're back, can you answer this?

In fairness, he has answered that already.

Silverman11 · 05-08-2014 03:58PM

ibarelycare wrote: »

Silverman since you're back, can you answer this?

Okay well I don't know for definite yet. However what is the difference in oral, mutual masturbation and intercourse really. It all has the same outcome.

eyescreamcone · 05-08-2014 04:01PM

What about masturbation by yourself??

ibarelycare · 05-08-2014 04:02PM

Silverman11 wrote: »

Okay well I don't know for definite yet. However what is the difference in oral, mutual masturbation and intercourse really. It all has the same outcome.

Then why would you do one before marriage and not the other?

Silverman11 · 05-08-2014 04:06PM

eyescreamcone wrote: »

What about masturbation by yourself??

That is one thing I think is alright because we need a release. I also hope God will forgive me because if I felt I didn't have to do it then I wouldn't.

ibarelycare wrote: »

Then why would you do one before marriage and not the other?

That's the thing. It is either all or none and at the moment it is none.

ibarelycare · 05-08-2014 04:09PM

I think it's strange when religious people pick and choose what rules they should follow with their religion, because they "think something is ok". If god would forgive you for masturbating, why wouldn't he forgive you for having sex?

I do think you're a very naive thinking that if you meet "the one" then your sex life will be good when you get married because you love each other. That's not how it works unfortunately!

You're very young though, good luck to you whether you stick with this choice or not!

Silverman11 · 05-08-2014 04:13PM

ibarelycare wrote: »

I think it's strange when religious people pick and choose what rules they should follow with their religion, because they "think something is ok". If god would forgive you for masturbating, why wouldn't he forgive you for having sex?

I do think you're a very naive thinking that if you meet "the one" then your sex life will be good when you get married because you love each other. That's not how it works unfortunately!

You're very young though, good luck to you whether you stick with this choice or not!

I am not picking and choosing. I feel that I need to masturbate as i'm sure many people do due to urges but sex with a woman is not needed but wanted. As I have said my decision to wait until marriage is not only based on my Religion (because some say it is ok) but also on my personal reasons yet a lot of people are ignoring that part and attacking my Religious beliefs (not particularly talking to you)

eyescreamcone · 05-08-2014 04:19PM

We are animals with sexual needs.
Some religions try to poke their noses into our sex lives. This is unnatural.

However, each to their own. I would imagine you'll be masturbating a lot as women have needs too.

Silverman11 · 05-08-2014 04:25PM

One thing I find interesting though is i know a lot of lads that have been with their first girlfriend for years and they are happy. Which means that sexual compatibility isn't much of a problem or are they just all lucky?

Insect Overlord · 05-08-2014 04:26PM

Silverman11 wrote: »

One thing I find interesting though is i know a lot of lads that have been with their first girlfriend for years and they are happy. Which means that sexual compatibility isn't much of a problem or are they just all lucky?

Life tends to be lovely when you're in your early twenties and you don't have kids or a mortgage.

ibarelycare · 05-08-2014 04:27PM

Silverman11 wrote: »

I am not picking and choosing. I feel that I need to masturbate as i'm sure many people do due to urges but sex with a woman is not needed but wanted. As I have said my decision to wait until marriage is not only based on my Religion (because some say it is ok) but also on my personal reasons yet a lot of people are ignoring that part and attacking my Religious beliefs (not particularly talking to you)

You are picking and choosing. Masturbation is a sin according to the Catholic church right? So you're choosing to commit that sin, but not premarital sex.

And I understand it's frustrating that people are attacking your beliefs, but that pretty much stopped a good few pages back. It's interesting that you're focusing mainly on the posts about religion and not as much on the non-religious reasons that people think your choice is a bad idea.

ibarelycare · 05-08-2014 04:28PM

Silverman11 wrote: »

One thing I find interesting though is i know a lot of lads that have been with their first girlfriend for years and they are happy. Which means that sexual compatibility isn't much of a problem or are they just all lucky?

That comparison doesn't really make sense. If they weren't sexually compatible they probably wouldn't still be together. They have the opportunity to find that out before making the commitment of marriage, whereas you won't.

takamichinoku · 05-08-2014 04:31PM

Silverman11 wrote: »

One thing I find interesting though is i know a lot of lads that have been with their first girlfriend for years and they are happy. Which means that sexual compatibility isn't much of a problem or are they just all lucky?

People generally are a bit more reluctant to let go of their first love. It's hard enough to actually accept the fact that there are other people out there.

Some of the worst relationships I've known are the people involved's first remotely serious one, they're also usually the ones that have no end in sight.

EDIT: NOT SAYING THIS IS ALWAYS THE CASE! There's also other factors involved such as how awkward it is to maintain a proper serious relationship in your teens and early 20s, probably further beyond that too really.

Silverman11 · 05-08-2014 04:31PM

An File wrote: »

Life tends to be lovely when you're in your early twenties and you don't have kids or a mortgage.

So everyone should have kids and wait until they are in their mid thirties so they can judge their sex lives then?

ibarelycare wrote: »

You are picking and choosing. Masturbation is a sin according to the Catholic church right? So you're choosing to commit that sin, but not premarital sex.

And I understand it's frustrating that people are attacking your beliefs, but that pretty much stopped a good few pages back. It's interesting that you're focusing mainly on the posts about religion and not as much on the non-religious reasons that people think your choice is a bad idea.

I have made my decision based on my personal situation. I wasn't asking for people to justify sex before marriage. I simply mentioned at the start that my beliefs were one reason I was waiting and people fixated on it. All I wanted to know if people knew many girls that may have waited or would wait for a guy.

Silverman11 · 05-08-2014 04:33PM

ibarelycare wrote: »

That comparison doesn't really make sense. If they weren't sexually compatible they probably wouldn't still be together. They have the opportunity to find that out before making the commitment of marriage, whereas you won't.

My point is that they ARE compatible with their first girlfriends. So incompatibility might not be as common as most people make out and it may be due to reasons that I won't have.

takamichinoku wrote: »

People generally are a bit more reluctant to let go of their first love. It's hard enough to actually accept the fact that there are other people out there.

Some of the worst relationships I've known are the people involved's first remotely serious one, they're also usually the ones that have no end in sight.

My friends are really happy at the moment.

_Redzer_ · 05-08-2014 04:35PM

Silverman11 wrote: »

I am not picking and choosing. I feel that I need to masturbate as i'm sure many people do due to urges but sex with a woman is not needed but wanted. As I have said my decision to wait until marriage is not only based on my Religion (because some say it is ok) but also on my personal reasons yet a lot of people are ignoring that part and attacking my Religious beliefs (not particularly talking to you)

Sex with a man on the other hand.....

Silverman11 · 05-08-2014 04:36PM

_Redzer_ wrote: »

Sex with a man on the other hand.....

Haha ya clown.

ibarelycare · 05-08-2014 04:38PM

Silverman11 wrote: »

All I wanted to know if people new many girls that may have waited or would wait for a guy.

Well no, you asked for people's opinions on your situation.

Silverman11 wrote: »

My point is that they ARE compatible with their first girlfriends. So incompatibility might not be as common as most and it may be due to reasons that I won't have.

Yes but they are still together BECAUSE they are compatible. Whereas if they weren't compatible, they wouldn't have to end a marriage (or stay stuck in an unhappy one), they would just have to end a relationship. I don't know how common or uncommon sexual incompatibility is, but as a 29-year-old woman I know from personal experience, and experiences of my friends, that it is more common than you seem to believe.

Insect Overlord · 05-08-2014 04:39PM

Silverman11 wrote: »

So everyone should have kids and wait until they are in their mid thirties so they can judge their sex lives then?

That is not what I meant at all. That is not it at all...

Dude, I haven't turned 26 yet. I don't have kids or any real responsibilities. It's fantastic.

I merely presented a flaw in your anecdotal "evidence". My opinion is that young couples who've been together since their teens live in a very different world to older couples with all kinds of other pressures besides what sexy thing they're going to try next.

_Redzer_ · 05-08-2014 04:39PM

In seriousness tho, I don't see the difference between your cum in a tissue or in some girl.

Sure isn't it all "wasted seed" and "sinful" when it's not for procreation only, so you're commiting just a big a sin by masturbating. No ifs or buts about it, your bible says so.

Waiting until Marriage.

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