The Sunday Game Thread

Grats · 10-06-2014 03:54PM

citykat wrote: »

Barry Kelly had a major bearing on the outcome of KK Vs Cork last year. His decision was subsequently rescinded. If that didn't ingratiate him to the Cork fans nothing ever will.

Yes, and amusingly very little, if any, debate on the Sunday Game about Kelly. At least Cork did win last Sunday despite the ref!

rebs23 · 10-06-2014 04:03PM

Jesus the amount of conspiracy theories about Cork is amazing.
We beat KK last year because we were better than them?
As for refs, every county has grievances about every ref!!

IrishAlice · 10-06-2014 04:09PM

rebs23 wrote: »

Jesus the amount of conspiracy theories about Cork is amazing.
We beat KK last year because we were better than them?
As for refs, every county has grievances about every ref!!

Overall yes Cork were better than us in that match last year.

BUT Barry Kelly did make some questionable calls, one in particular was giving Henry Shefflin two yellows which was later proven when the second yellow was rescinded.

You're dead right about every county having grievances about refs, I'm very vocal on my dislike of Barry Kelly because I think he has a blatant anti Kilkenny agenda.

rebs23 · 10-06-2014 04:13PM

IrishAlice wrote: »

Overall yes Cork were better than us in that match last year.

BUT Barry Kelly did make some questionable calls, one in particular was giving Henry Shefflin two yellows which was later proven when the second yellow was rescinded.

You're dead right about every county having grievances about refs, I'm very vocal on my dislike of Barry Kelly because I think he has a blatant anti Kilkenny agenda.

I think it is just down to a general view in officialdom that they want more open type play in Hurling and Football. Its better for the viewers!
Thats the way soccer has gone all over the world and the same thing is happening in the GAA. Less of the rough stuff or manly hurling as you call it in KK:D
Don't think it is down to individual refs. You could argue they all are as equally good/bad.
As for the Sunday Game, it was absolutely chronic last Sunday night.

IrishAlice · 10-06-2014 04:20PM

rebs23 wrote: »

I think it is just down to a general view in officialdom that they want more open type play in Hurling and Football. Its better for the viewers!
Thats the way soccer has gone all over the world and the same thing is happening in the GAA. Less of the rough stuff or manly hurling as you call it in KK:D
Don't think it is down to individual refs. You could argue they all are as equally good/bad.
As for the Sunday Game, it was absolutely chronic last Sunday night.

Now that you mention it I can't name a ref that I think is absolutely brilliant and above the others

Cork were playing plenty of "manly hurling" on Sunday! Heard the Waterford manager said the players were bullied around the pitch

Grats · 10-06-2014 04:28PM

Less of the rough stuff and manly hurling! Nobody can have an issue with rough stuff and manly hurling surely - it is HURLING we're talking about here. Don't confuse it with dirt like Shane O'Neill got away with last year on two occasions.

Mountainlad · 10-06-2014 07:29PM

Grats wrote: »

James Owens allowed a Waterford square ball against Kilkenny last year and another one for Tipp in the League Final!

Did he? I don't think you mentioned that before. Forgot he was an umpire too.

Grats · 10-06-2014 08:50PM

Mountainlad wrote: »

Did he? I don't think you mentioned that before. Forgot he was an umpire too.

Don't like moaning on about refs, they do their best, don't they? The ref has the final decision - don't they?

Mountainlad · 10-06-2014 09:42PM

Grats wrote: »

Don't like moaning on about refs, they do their best, don't they? The ref has the final decision - don't they?

Very big of you

Grats · 10-06-2014 10:27PM

Mountainlad wrote: »

Very big of you

How did you know? Yeah, 6 foot 5!

dastardly00 · 06-07-2014 10:59PM

Anybody watching the Sunday Game?
They've gone super fancy with a graph of 'scores' vs 'time' for the Wexford-Clare match!

Rightwing · 06-07-2014 11:03PM

Cork badly need silverware. I'm expecting the ref to blow Limerick off the field the nexy day.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater · 06-07-2014 11:05PM

dastardly00 wrote: »

Anybody watching the Sunday Game?
They've gone super fancy with a graph of 'scores' vs 'time' for the Wexford-Clare match!

Yeah it's quality, an oul pie chart wouldn't go astray now before the end.

adrian522 · 16-07-2014 11:13AM

Pretty embarrassing that neither Eddie Brennan nor Donal O Cusack seemed to know the rules for the black card given they were advocating it being brought in for hurling.

A 2nd yellow was deemed to harsh but a black card would be the ideal solution was the general gist of the conversation. Amazed somebody at RTE wasn't able to point out that if you are already on a yellow a black card is essentially the same as a second yellow and you would not be able to bring on a replacement.

It actually beggars belief that the conversation was able to go in that direction with somebody pulling them up about it. Ollie Canning chiming in with the same thing again today in the paper.

nice_guy80 · 16-07-2014 12:15PM

adrian522 wrote: »

Pretty embarrassing that neither Eddie Brennan nor Donal O Cusack seemed to know the rules for the black card given they were advocating it being brought in for hurling.

A 2nd yellow was deemed to harsh but a black card would be the ideal solution was the general gist of the conversation. Amazed somebody at RTE wasn't able to point out that if you are already on a yellow a black card is essentially the same as a second yellow and you would not be able to bring on a replacement.

It actually beggars belief that the conversation was able to go in that direction with somebody pulling them up about it. Ollie Canning chiming in with the same thing again today in the paper.

yeah.
crazy that two different sets of rules were introduced

Martin567 · 16-07-2014 12:41PM

adrian522 wrote: »

Pretty embarrassing that neither Eddie Brennan nor Donal O Cusack seemed to know the rules for the black card given they were advocating it being brought in for hurling.

A 2nd yellow was deemed to harsh but a black card would be the ideal solution was the general gist of the conversation. Amazed somebody at RTE wasn't able to point out that if you are already on a yellow a black card is essentially the same as a second yellow and you would not be able to bring on a replacement.

It actually beggars belief that the conversation was able to go in that direction with somebody pulling them up about it. Ollie Canning chiming in with the same thing again today in the paper.

Could it not be the case that they meant a black card might have been given for the first offence?

In that case, the player would leave the field but his team would still have 15 men. He then wouldn't be on the field to commit a second offence and potentially reduce his team to 14 men.

adrian522 · 16-07-2014 01:27PM

Martin567 wrote: »

Could it not be the case that they meant a black card might have been given for the first offence?

In that case, the player would leave the field but his team would still have 15 men. He then wouldn't be on the field to commit a second offence and potentially reduce his team to 14 men.

It could be but the example they were quoting was Brown dragging down mcGovern and subsequently getting sent off for a 2nd yellow.

I don't think they were suggesting a black card for the first offence. They seemed to be saying it was too much pressure to put on the referee when a player already had a yellow and he does something like that. Would a black card not be a better middle ground than producing a second yellow.

That was the impression I took from it anyway.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 03-08-2014 10:21PM

So according to McHugh O' Donoghue is already better that Gooch.. Laughable tbh..

c_man · 03-08-2014 10:27PM

Ha, controversial alright

But tbh, the night time analysis is so superior to the live panelists imo. Proper analysis of the game with no adversarial jibes (e.g. Joe and his NAMA slagging today).

Nidgeweasel · 03-08-2014 10:45PM

Has rte player crashed for anyone?

aveytare · 03-08-2014 10:47PM

Andy and Brian Mallon aren't related either

Nib · 03-08-2014 10:48PM

The Mallon brothers, of course, no relation.

Nidgeweasel · 03-08-2014 11:02PM

Dry up lads.

jethro081 · 03-08-2014 11:04PM

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Dry up lads.

you referencing the kieran hughes thing?

that's never a red card for me. not in a million years. it's not like he puched him. it's not a nice thing to do, but sure god only knows what led up to it.

Nidgeweasel · 03-08-2014 11:05PM

jethro081 wrote: »

you referencing the kieran hughes thing?

that's never a red card for me. not in a million years. it's not like he puched him. it's not a nice thing to do, but sure god only knows what led up to it.

Yes.

He threw a ball at him, lightly. Big deal.

There's a couple of minutes now could have been better spent with a preview of next weekends quarter finals.

Nib · 03-08-2014 11:07PM

He threw the ball at him twice. Then it looks like he pulled his hair.

What a tough guy.

jethro081 · 03-08-2014 11:07PM

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Yes.

He threw a ball at him, lightly. Big deal.

There's a couple of minutes now could have been better spent with a preview of next weekends quarter finals.

couldn't agree more. if the ref had sent him off for that i'd have been livid.

Royce McCutcheon · 03-08-2014 11:16PM

jethro081 wrote: »

couldn't agree more. if the ref had sent him off for that i'd have been livid.

iFrom a kildaremans perspective it was in no way a sending off offence but it shows a complete lack of class and respect for a fellow player.Going into extra time there should be only one thing on your mind and I dont think pulling a young and much smaller guys hair and throwing a football at him twice is it. Just left a bitter taste in my mouth after a game which I thought was played as fairly as any 2 teams could have in such poor conditions.

jethro081 · 03-08-2014 11:19PM

Royce McCutcheon wrote: »

iFrom a kildaremans perspective it was in no way a sending off offence but it shows a complete lack of class and respect for a fellow player.Going into extra time there should be only one thing on your mind and I dont think pulling a young and much smaller guys hair and throwing a football at him twice is it. Just left a bitter taste in my mouth after a game which I thought was played as fairly as any 2 teams could have in such poor conditions.

in fairness, kieran hughes is pretty young himself, and as i said earlier, we don't know the background to it. there could be any number of provocations that would incite that kind of reaction.

However, i can't argue that it was far from classy, i just feel it was overblown by the sunday game lads.

Nidgeweasel · 03-08-2014 11:26PM

jethro081 wrote: »

However, i can't argue that it was far from classy, i just feel it was overblown by the sunday game lads.

Is the right answer.

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