Protestors disrupting World War 1 commemoration at Glasnevin

any1butdublin3 · 01-08-2014 04:56PM

Hunterbiker wrote: »

The entire British Army and Royal Family is more than a few individuals so it you are being a bigot.
Did you hate Mountbatten and the others who died with him?

Well the royal family have a long history of being anti Ulster Catholic so I dislike all of them. The army hasn't changed much though, you just have to look at the recent photo of soldiers giving the nazi salute with the old N.Ireland flag in the background.

any1butdublin3 · 01-08-2014 04:57PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Yes because the current royal family gave all the orders to the army during the troubles. They are figureheads nothing more as far as the army is concerned. Also the army is a pretty large group of people so disliking them because of their status as a group kinda is the very definition of a bigot.

You only dislike anyone who disagrees with your extreme, bloodlusting and vengeful point of view it seems, which is a great way to go through life

I don't believe in violence so you are wrong, I dislike republicans who murdered innocents as well.

KindOfIrish · 01-08-2014 04:58PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

They must have gotten the day off work to protest :rolleyes:

Horrible creatures.

They have never worked.

paddyland · 01-08-2014 05:01PM

People are crediting these wasters far too much by calling them 'republicans.'

They are nothing of the sort.

They are all immature cowards, teenagers, unemployables and layabouts, whose sole ability to draw attention to themselves is to cause trouble. They have NO allegiance to republicanism, NO allegiance to Ireland, and NO allegiance to anything.

They are all terrified of their peers, afraid of their life they won't be accepted into the peer group, and the only peer group they can aspire to is the weakest, stupidest and most pathetic bunch of people they can find. People like themselves. They are afraid they won't appear 'hard' to their mates, yet if any of them ever met a real hard man, they would piss their pants in an instant.

Many of them even post here, and their lack of awareness or knowledge is breathtaking. It is hard to believe just how illiterate and backward some members of the human race can be. As regards republicanism, ask them any two questions about their own history, and they could give no straight answer at all.

They haven't a clue. Some of them might grow up one day, but many others are a waste of fresh air, and will never be anything.

Madam · 01-08-2014 05:03PM

And so a thread is slowly dying due to semi intelligent posts. No not you above:)

RollieFingers · 01-08-2014 05:05PM

paddyland wrote: »

People are crediting these wasters far too much by calling them 'republicans.'

They are nothing of the sort.

They are all immature cowards, teenagers, unemployables and layabouts, whose sole ability to draw attention to themselves is to cause trouble. They have NO allegiance to republicanism, NO allegiance to Ireland, and NO allegiance to anything.

They are all terrified of their peers, afraid of their life they won't be accepted into the peer group, and the only peer group they can aspire to is the weakest, stupidest and most pathetic bunch of people they can find. People like themselves. They are afraid they won't appear 'hard' to their mates, yet if any of them ever met a real hard man, they would piss their pants in an instant.

Many of them even post here, and their lack of awareness or knowledge is breathtaking. It is hard to believe just how illiterate and backward some members of the human race can be. As regards republicanism, ask them any two questions about their own history, and they could give no straight answer at all.

They haven't a clue. Some of them might grow up one day, but many others are a waste of fresh air, and will never be anything.

In fairness they were all probably distraught over Celtic getting owned 4-1 in the champions league!

any1butdublin3 · 01-08-2014 05:07PM

I am not sticking up for them but just take a look back at the 1920's, I'm sure if the IRA young men back then were transferred to todays society they would be the 'layabout celtic shirt wearing thugs'

Karl Stein · 01-08-2014 05:07PM

Hunterbiker wrote: »

The landmark enquiry did go some way to right the wrongs of Bloody Sunday but because of the time involved its never going to be enough to appease some people.

How noble of them that they agreed to an enquiry on the murder, cover-up, and labelling as terrorists of innocent people. How very noble that it was essentially forced out of them as part of the cessation of the IRA bombing campaign in Britain.

I guess that passes as 'justice' for some people? Would you consider that justice? Justice would have saw the murderers doing a long stretch in prison shortly after they committed their crimes.

If those soldiers were brought to trial then surely they should treated as the same as PIRA / Loyalist terrorists post Good Friday and see a maximum 2 year sentence cap / let off by way of a letter as some of the murdering scrotes have over the years. I doubt that'll go down well with the Republicans though.

That would be the best anyone concerned with justice could hope to see. It won't happen though. British soldiers in the dock for murder? That would be bad for morale.

Irelandcool · 01-08-2014 05:13PM

Keep in in mind that the commemorations also also commemorated the irish dead in world war 2? should these be branded as traitors. Also british army aren't our enemy in fact a lot of irish men and women have joined the british army. Although I do kind of wished they would commemorate all the irish people who fought on the WW1 allied side and WW2 allied side because im sure some Irish people joined the Canadian and American forces though not in huge numbers.

Also I like remembering two of my great uncles who joined on the british side and fought the nazi's of world war 2 and my other uncle who was a us marine on world war 2 these people and countless others fought for our freedoms and still do so today even if they might get misused I think its the thought that counts at least.

end of the road · 01-08-2014 05:28PM

Hunterbiker wrote: »

As far as I know there is no medal for shooting innocent civilians anywhere...

If only the UK Government had handled these incidents differently rather than let them fester. The landmark enquiry did go some way to right the wrongs of Bloody Sunday but because of the time involved its never going to be enough to appease some people.

As is common with NI there are no winners.

If those soldiers were brought to trial then surely they should treated as the same as PIRA / Loyalist terrorists post Good Friday and see a maximum 2 year sentence cap / let off by way of a letter as some of the murdering scrotes have over the years. I doubt that'll go down well with the Republicans though.

IRA members did go to jail, members of the british army are held to a higher standard and therefore should get more of a punishment for their actions being an agent of the british state

Hunterbiker · 01-08-2014 05:30PM

Karl Stein wrote: »

How noble of them that they agreed to an enquiry on the murder, cover-up, and labelling as terrorists of innocent people. How very noble that it was essentially forced out of them as part of the cessation of the IRA bombing campaign in Britain.

I guess that passes as 'justice' for some people? Would you consider that justice? Justice would have saw the murderers doing a long stretch in prison shortly after they committed their crimes.

That would be the best anyone concerned with justice could hope to see. It won't happen though. British soldiers in the dock for murder? That would be bad for morale.

Ah the pent up hatred almost makes me feel dirty.
what is this talk of nobility?
Suddenly the criminal murder of people through bombing is justified because it got an Inquiry...
love the logic there...

end of the road · 01-08-2014 05:31PM

RollieFingers wrote: »

I couldn't really care to be honest

you'd be happy with members of the british military being awarded medals for shooting innocent civilians? discusting

RollieFingers wrote: »

that never happened

no, but members of the british military were awarded medals and had been responsible for the murder of civilians

RollieFingers wrote: »

I get that you guys hate the British

bollox, hating the british army and having contempt for them is not hatred for the british people, stop with such gibberish

Hunterbiker · 01-08-2014 05:32PM

end of the road wrote: »

IRA members did go to jail, members of the british army are held to a higher standard and therefore should get more of a punishment for their actions being an agent of the british state

But surely the PIRA see themselves as being a lawful army so surely the treatment should be the same? More double standards and pick8ng and choosing to make things fit...

Beastie1 · 01-08-2014 05:33PM

This is not honouring Irish men, it is honouring british soldiers. Ireland had been opressed by Britain for hundreds of years and those that joined the enemy army are traitors.
The nonsense that happened yesterday is further revisionist rubbish with a member of the british royal family in attendance.
Posters plastered all over Dublin advertising ww1 rte series has cost the licence payer huge amount of their licence fee.

Madam · 01-08-2014 05:33PM

I kind of smile to myself when folk say they died for us. No they didn't, most young men went to war for adventure (my 18 year old father and his twin brother among them, thankfully for them that is exactly what it was).

end of the road · 01-08-2014 05:35PM

Hunterbiker wrote: »

Did you hate Mountbatten?

well, apparently he wasn't the cuddly old man we were made to believe now was he?

Hunterbiker · 01-08-2014 05:37PM

Karl Stein wrote: »

I guess that passes as 'justice' for some people? Would you consider that justice? Justice would have saw the murderers doing a long stretch in prison shortly after they committed their crimes.

That would be the best anyone concerned with justice could hope to see. It won't happen though. British soldiers in the dock for murder? That would be bad for morale.

And as per the stupid situation at present where 'forner' terrorist / criminals walk free serve 2 years it would be a waste of time and money.

I subscribe to the idea that pre good Friday needs to have a line drawn underneath it. No matter how unpalatable it just needs to be done and that it needs to be across the board. Look on the bright side at least the likes of Gerry and Martin can finally own up to things..

Hunterbiker · 01-08-2014 05:40PM

end of the road wrote: »

well, apparently he wasn't the cuddly old man we were made to believe now was he?

So you feel he deserved having his legs blown off and drowning as a result and I suppose those others with him were just in the wrong place.

what an absolute nonsense to suggest that because of alleged dark little secrets PIRA did the world a favour...

Hunterbiker · 01-08-2014 05:42PM

Madam wrote: »

I kind of smile to myself when folk say they died for us. No they didn't, most young men went to war for adventure (my 18 year old father and his twin brother among them, thankfully for them that is exactly what it was).

Come on its been at least 24 hrs for you to get your facts right on this.

end of the road · 01-08-2014 05:44PM

Hunterbiker wrote: »

So you feel he deserved having his legs blown off and drowning as a result and I suppose those others with him were just in the wrong place.

what an absolute nonsense to suggest that because of alleged dark little secrets PIRA did the world a favour...

what tripe, i suggested nothing of the sort, nor did i say his killing was right, all i said in relation to the question of did one hate him was that he wasn't the cuddly old man we were made to believe

Hunterbiker · 01-08-2014 05:46PM

end of the road wrote: »

what tripe, i suggested nothing of the sort, nor did i say his killing was right, all i said in relation to the question of did one hate him was that he wasn't the cuddly old man we were made to believe

Tripe...you'd be well placed to recognise it.

Happyman42 · 01-08-2014 05:46PM

Hunterbiker wrote: »

And as per the stupid situation at present where 'forner' terrorist / criminals walk free serve 2 years it would be a waste of time and money.

I subscribe to the idea that pre good Friday needs to have a line drawn underneath it. No matter how unpalatable it just needs to be done and that it needs to be across the board. Look on the bright side at least the likes of Gerry and Martin can finally own up to things..

What should have happened before any hand was extended or any invitation was sent, was that all these issues where dealt with and that line drawn.

Instead we have an unseemly haste to kiss and make up that may prove top be tragically counterproductive if NI deteriorates further as it might very well do. We also have the cringeworthy collapse of the dignity of Irish people (who should be republicans) as they fawn over the glitz and glamour of royalty and privlege..god bless them, must have been hard since Independence.

end of the road · 01-08-2014 05:49PM

Hunterbiker wrote: »

Tripe...you'd be well placed to recognise it.

dispite you trying and failing to twist my post into saying what you wanted it to say, your wrong

Hunterbiker · 01-08-2014 05:50PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

What should have happened before any hand was extended or any invitation was sent, was that all these issues where dealt with and that line drawn.

Instead we have an unseemly haste to kiss and make up that may prove top be tragically counterproductive if NI deteriorates further as it might very well do. We also have the cringeworthy collapse of the dignity of Irish people (who should be republicans) as they fawn over the glitz and glamour of royalty and privlege..god bless them, must have been hard since Independence.

If this wasn't so sad it would be funny. I hate to break it to you but NI could erupt in flames and no one would give a flying f...the improvement in relations will carry on regardless.

hatrickpatrick · 01-08-2014 05:51PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Gonna repeat what was said by someone earlier, attrocities were committed by both sides. However calling for more blood like several have on here is not a solution. Anyone involved on either side needs to be brought to justice obviously but beyond that revenge is not a solution

Shouldn't part of "justice" mean paying organizations which were involved in terrorism no official tributes? Even if they have done good things in the past, the British Army should not be welcome on Irish shores in any official capacity whatsoever.

wazky · 01-08-2014 05:51PM

Hunterbiker wrote: »

If this wasn't so sad it would be funny. I hate to break it to you but NI could erupt in flames and no one would give a flying f...the improvement in relations will carry on regardless.

No one would care?, really?

Hunterbiker · 01-08-2014 05:51PM

end of the road wrote: »

dispite you trying and failing to twist my post into saying what you wanted it to say, your wrong

I have no need to twist anything. The mere fact you brought it up cnddems you...

Me think the Republican Protests too much...

Hunterbiker · 01-08-2014 05:53PM

wazky wrote: »

No one would care?, really?

In the wider sense not really. People would be 'shocked' on the news but your average Joe Bloggs would just carry on. Only those directly caught up would give it thought.

Unless it stopped a Garth Brooks concert or something as serious

wazky · 01-08-2014 05:54PM

Hunterbiker wrote: »

In the wider sense not really. People would be 'shocked' on the news but your average Joe Bloggs would just carry on. Only those directly caught up would give it thought.

The people in NI might care at least?, I'm just guessing though.

Hunterbiker · 01-08-2014 05:55PM

wazky wrote: »

The people in NI might care at least?, I'm just guessing though.

NI is a very small place. Thats the point.

Protestors disrupting World War 1 commemoration at Glasnevin

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