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Everybody else in the family is at the Commonwealth Games, so why aren't we?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I haven't actually voiced an attidue towards the commonwealth.

    There are plenty of republics and independent nations within the commonwealth. Ireland is not one of them. That's not an opinion, that's a statement of fact.

    Whether or not we should be is a different question and until someone gives me a good reason to debate as to why we should rejoin, I see no reason to change anything (which is not a statement about the commonwealth, either).

    I think it would be great to see an Irish squad competing in Glasgow, even for Dublin to host the games.

    Other than that, I can't see any advantage other than a bit of window dressing to keep unionists happy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    How would not running not be in his interest?

    He gets well paid for endorsements on UK TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,021 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    And do you feel the same for the USA?

    Do you find it interesting that it's basically the old British empire.

    It even has the British royals (i.e Monarchs) as the heads, and will do so indefinitely.

    I find the fact that Indians enjoy all the pageantry interesting.

    I also find why the UK should still have "relationships" or hegemony over their former subjects despite being a modern country needs explanation.

    Maybe you could explain?

    I do suspect there is an underlying anti-Britishness in Irish people's complete dismissal of the Commonwealth (even though such people will immediately deny this). The ironic thing is we are culturally far closer to the British than nearly all the members of the Commonwealth with the possible exception of Australia and New Zealand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    I think it would be great to see an Irish squad competing in Glasgow, even for Dublin to host the games.

    Other than that, I can't see any advantage other than a bit of window dressing to keep unionists happy.

    Maybe there could be a bonfire building competition? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    Strazdas wrote: »
    I do suspect there is an underlying anti-Britishness in Irish people's complete dismissal of the Commonwealth (even though such people will immediately deny this). The ironic thing is we are culturally far closer to the British than nearly all the members of the Commonwealth with the possible exception of Australia and New Zealand.


    I do suspect there is an underlying anti-Irishness in British people's complete dismissal of the European Union ...:eek:


    ... Of course not, because that would be stupid Strazdas, and we would have to have an inflated sense of self-importance to think so. :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    He gets well paid for endorsements on UK TV.

    The poor pet, I bet he'd go hungry if he didn't run in Glasgow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    Certainly.

    Of course at his own events. Hardly the best at badminton.

    He would probably win gold if back tracking was an event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    Looks like Lightning Bolt has let the cat out of the bag. :cool:

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/30/usain-bolt-commonwealth-games-2014

    There's a poll aswell in the Guardian in Comment is Free:

    62% believe they are indeed sh1t.

    Ouch.

    Now, back to Britain's influence worldwide ... :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    As a non-eu kinda guy - what's the deal with the Commonwealth Games? I've never heard of them....is it basically the Olympics, but without all the best athletes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,021 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I do suspect there is an underlying anti-Irishness in British people's complete dismissal of the European Union ...:eek:


    ... Of course not, because that would be stupid Strazdas, and we would have to have an inflated sense of self-importance to think so. :rolleyes:

    Not quite the same thing though. The Commonwealth was known as the "British Commonwealth" for many years, which I imagine would have been like a red rag to a bull for Irish nationalists and republicans. I've no doubt there are plenty of Irish people who simply see it as an outdated anachronism but there are still presumably lots of armchair republicans around too who associate it totally with British royalty and British imperialism (even though the Empire in effect is long gone).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    UCDVet wrote: »
    ....is it basically the Olympics, but without all the best athletes?

    More like a school sports day without the egg and spoon race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Not quite the same thing though. The Commonwealth was known as the "British Commonwealth" for many years, which I imagine would have been like a red rag to a bull for Irish nationalists and republicans. I've no doubt there are plenty of Irish people who simply see it as an outdated anachronism but there are still presumably lots of armchair republicans around too who associate it totally with British royalty and British imperialism (even though the Empire in effect is long gone).

    It is the same.

    Implying people are "provos" for displaying common sense is so last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    UCDVet wrote: »
    As a non-eu kinda guy - what's the deal with the Commonwealth Games? I've never heard of them....is it basically the Olympics, but without all the best athletes?



    Explains it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet




    Explains it.

    They don't allow playback unless I go to YouTube! I ain't got time for that.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I think it would be great to see an Irish squad competing in Glasgow, even for Dublin to host the games.

    Other than that, I can't see any advantage other than a bit of window dressing to keep unionists happy.

    Neither is really a good selling point to us, to be fair.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,689 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    UCDVet wrote: »
    As a non-eu kinda guy - what's the deal with the Commonwealth Games? I've never heard of them....is it basically the Olympics, but without all the best athletes?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Games

    https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=commonwealth+games


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Neither is really a good selling point to us, to be fair.

    I wasn't trying to sell it. Membership would have little or no benefit to Ireland.

    But, taking the games alone, Dublin could host an event like this and it would be a big lift for the country. It would also give a lot of Irish sportsmen and women a larger stage to perform in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭An Claidheamh


    I wasn't trying to sell it. Membership would have little or no benefit to Ireland.

    But, taking the games alone, Dublin could host an event like this and it would be a big lift for the country. It would also give a lot of Irish sportsmen and women a larger stage to perform in.

    Unfortunately if Irish athletes can't qualify for championships, it would just give them a stage to humiliate themselves on.

    Dublin/Ireland could host all sorts of events without just involving British ex-colonies.

    All we need is a billion or so ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Dublin/Ireland could host all sorts of events without just involving British ex-colonies.

    Such as?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Such as?

    The All Ireland Football final.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    Such as?

    The World Lovely Girl Competition!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet



    Ahh, thanks. Just like the Olympics, but without 9 of the 10 most successful Olympic competitors. Originally introduced to make conquered people feel happier about their being conquered.

    Well, now I know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    UCDVet wrote: »
    Ahh, thanks. Just like the Olympics, but without 9 of the 10 most successful Olympic competitors. Originally introduced to make conquered people feel happier about their being conquered.

    Well, now I know.

    "Hey, we just enslaved your people and stripped your land of its natural resources, fancy a game of rounders?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    wazky wrote: »
    The All Ireland Football final.

    International events usually involve sports played by people in more than one country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    International events usually involve sports played by people in more than one country.

    New York and London have a team too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    wazky wrote: »
    New York and London have a team too.

    Of Irish people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Of Irish people.

    Oh Fred, put the shovel down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,689 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    UCDVet wrote: »
    Ahh, thanks. Just like the Olympics, but without 9 of the 10 most successful Olympic competitors. Originally introduced to make conquered people feel happier about their being conquered.

    Well, now I know.

    You don't need to thank me to use google or wikipedia :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    wazky wrote: »
    Oh Fred, put the shovel down.

    Yawn.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I wasn't trying to sell it. Membership would have little or no benefit to Ireland.

    But, taking the games alone, Dublin could host an event like this and it would be a big lift for the country. It would also give a lot of Irish sportsmen and women a larger stage to perform in.

    Sounds like something Britain would get more out of than Ireland to be fair, and there's no guarantee Dublin would ever be chosen to host. We don't really have an atheltics stadium for a start.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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