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Palestinaisn being slaughtered and a prick with a cowboy hat is on frint page

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  • #3002
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Israel. who knows what they're capable of.
    well we know they are capable of murdering children and using the holicost to justify it

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #3003
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    To be clear, it is my assertion/opinion that Hamas and ISIS are allies.
    withdraw the clame that hamas and isis are allies

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #3004
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    end of the road wrote: »
    withdraw the clame that hamas and isis are allies

    He basically has by saying it is now his opinion - we know it is not true - he doesn't have to "withdraw" - it is not the Seanad or something. Least now we can move on as this has been dragging on a few pages..


  • #3005
    LorMal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭LorMal


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....well that's hardly an unique characteristic in the region, nor is it much different from what Israel does, albeit on a far lower budget.

    Totally true. Given that, are you going to condemn Hamas for the rockets? Nope


  • #3006
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,670 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Nine soldiers of the IDF killed today in Gaza.
    They don't seem to be as good as they think they are at the close-quarter fighting. 9 soldiers killed trying to justify the reasoning and hatred of old men.


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  • #3007
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    end of the road wrote: »
    well we know they are capable of murdering children and using the holicost to justify it

    Says it all really


  • #3008
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Tail Docker wrote: »
    The term "Terrorists" has become a catch all for acting the cnut against Civilians.

    People who believe that the West should be allowed to play by different rules to others use the word "terrorists" to refer to all non Western actors acting the cnut against civilians. That's the main reason I for one support the Palestinian side of this conflict so vehemently.


  • #3009
    fedor.2.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    People who believe that the West should be allowed to play by different rules to others use the word "terrorists" to refer to all non Western actors acting the cnut against civilians. That's the main reason I for one support the Palestinian side of this conflict so vehemently.

    When you heading over then??


  • #3010
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,295 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    WakeUp wrote: »
    What you're saying here doesn't really add up though. The Israeli government line is that they are targeting militants and warning civilians. but how can you both target and warn someone that doesn't make any sense .really what they are doing is blowing sh1t up and killing civilians in the process - the militants assuming they were there have gone. why would detailed plans be lost with the building? What do you mean by that and what sort of heavy weapons are you talking about? When they are taking out houses/apts -with the militants already gone - they are levelling entire blocks and other peoples homes too not just the intended target in lots of cases with people still in those houses/apts. and then when they actually get a militant clearly they didn't get a warning so what about the civilians caught up in that. when you take apart the official line and contrast it with what is actually happening, it doesn't add up.

    Remember that Israel's stated objective is to remove the threat and stop the rocket attacks. They didn't say anything that I'm aware of that their objective is to kill all of Hamas. As a result, it's the heavy ordnance that most concerns them. The rockets, the missile systems, the RPGs. Things you don't want to be lugging around when it's very obvious that the Israeli military is watching your building.
    They don't seem to be as good as they think they are at the close-quarter fighting. 9 soldiers killed trying to justify the reasoning and hatred of old men

    City fighting is incredibly consuming of manpower, the close range neutralises a lot of the advantages, and there are all sorts of places for mines, booby traps, etc. It doesn't take a hell of a lot of skill to lob a hand grenade. City fighting in a city which still has residents is even worse, if you're trying to not kill people who don't need killing. Of course, they could just sit back and level the place block by block, that would reduce the amount of casualties the Israelis are taking. It would be incredibly naive for anyone to think that the Israeli operation would not result in dozens of Israeli soldiers killed. Frankly, I think the Israelis are willing to lose a couple of hundred to do the job, at this point. They lost over 100 in 2006, and generally achieved their objectives: The Lebanon border has been very quiet since. A similar result in Gaza would suit them.


  • #3011
    hju6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭hju6


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    When you heading over then??

    http://www.gazashield.com

    Soon as possible


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  • #3012
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    Says it all really
    it certainly does, absolutely discusting thing to use the suffering and death of innocent people to justify the suffering and death of innocent people

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #3013
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    People who believe that the West should be allowed to play by different rules to others use the word "terrorists" to refer to all non Western actors acting the cnut against civilians. That's the main reason I for one support the Palestinian side of this conflict so vehemently.

    Israel isn't western.


  • #3014
    Sufa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Sufa


    end of the road wrote: »
    it certainly does, absolutely discusting thing to use the suffering and death of innocent people to justify the suffering and death of innocent people

    I would challenge you on this statement, and ask for you to back up your claim - but you will not be able to because it is utter nonsense and a fabrication to suit your agenda.

    Israel does not use the holocaust as any sort of justification for its military campaigns.


  • #3015
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Frank Lee Midere wrote: »
    Israel isn't western.

    Correct, but as an ally of a Western superpower it is afforded the same double standards and exemptions to the rules by Western apologists.


  • #3016
    hju6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭hju6


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Correct, but as an ally of a Western superpower it is afforded the same double standards and exemptions to the rules by Western apologists.

    And into European singing competitions and European football tournaments


  • #3017
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    hju6 wrote: »
    And into European singing competitions and European football tournaments

    Ah here that's not on at all.
    One does not simply refer to Eurovision as a "singing competition". :p


  • #3018
    cometogether
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭cometogether


    Just seen videos of some of the child victims in Gaza. May God help those people because nobody else is going to.


  • #3019
    hju6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭hju6


    More ****e from Netanyahu

    "The Israeli prime minister said the military campaign in Gaza would not end until a network of tunnels Israel says have been dug to launch “terror” attacks against its citizens had been destroyed."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10996645/Benjamin-Netanyahu-vows-lengthy-campaign-in-Gaza.html

    If the tunnels are there to "launch terror " on Israel, one end of the tunnel must be close to the border,

    So why the necessity to blow the fluckery out of Gaza to destroy tunnels with one end in or close to Israel ?


  • #3020
    h2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭h2005


    Sufa wrote: »
    I would challenge you on this statement, and ask for you to back up your claim - but you will not be able to because it is utter nonsense and a fabrication to suit your agenda.

    Israel does not use the holocaust as any sort of justification for its military campaigns.
    It mightn't use at as a justification but it does use it to deflect from what it is doing in Gaza.

    http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/We-are-looking-at-the-beginnings-of-a-Holocaust-369165


  • #3021
    Tail Docker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    hju6 wrote: »
    More ****e from Netanyahu

    "The Israeli prime minister said the military campaign in Gaza would not end until a network of tunnels Israel says have been dug to launch “terror” attacks against its citizens had been destroyed."

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10996645/Benjamin-Netanyahu-vows-lengthy-campaign-in-Gaza.html

    If the tunnels are there to "launch terror " on Israel, one end of the tunnel must be close to the border,

    So why the necessity to blow the fluckery out of Gaza to destroy tunnels with one end in or close to Israel ?

    They are tunnels of Mass Destruction. It's no miner matter.








    Might as well laugh, sure otherwise, you'd cry.


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  • #3022
    hju6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭hju6


    h2005 wrote: »
    It mightn't use at as a justification but it does use it to deflect from what it is doing in Gaza.

    http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/We-are-looking-at-the-beginnings-of-a-Holocaust-369165

    A Hollywood movie about it would make it real and believable


  • #3023
    user2011
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭user2011


    Myth debunking of this Israeli offensive

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/gaza-israel_b_5624401.html?utm_hp_ref=uk


  • #3024
    Sufa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Sufa


    hju6 wrote: »
    More ****e from Netanyahu

    "The Israeli prime minister said the military campaign in Gaza would not end until a network of tunnels Israel says have been dug to launch “terror” attacks against its citizens had been destroyed."

    If the tunnels are there to "launch terror " on Israel, one end of the tunnel must be close to the border,

    So why the necessity to blow the fluckery out of Gaza to destroy tunnels with one end in or close to Israel ?

    Air strikes deep inside Gaza are conducted with the intention of removing Hamas' ability to launch rocket attacks against Israel. The operation to identify and close tunnels aims to remove Hamas' ability to covertly insert fighters/militants/terrorists (whatever you want to call them) into Israel with the intention of killing or kidnapping Israeli civilians. The threat of cross border attacks is very real (see 2011 attacks on wiki) and of great concern to the Israeli government and population.

    Israel didn't fully comprehend the extent of the tunnel network and the seriousness of the threat they posed until they initially entered Gaza however, and as such the operation to destroy them has increased in size and intensity far quicker than anybody really expected.


  • #3025
    hju6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭hju6


    Sufa wrote: »
    Air strikes deep inside Gaza are conducted with the intention of removing Hamas' ability to launch rocket attacks against Israel. The operation to identify and close tunnels aims to remove Hamas' ability to covertly insert fighters/militants/terrorists (whatever you want to call them) into Israel with the intention of killing or kidnapping Israeli civilians. The threat of cross border attacks is very real (see 2011 attacks on wiki) and of great concern to the Israeli government and population.

    Israel didn't fully comprehend the extent of the tunnel network and the seriousness of the threat they posed until they initially entered Gaza however, and as such the operation to destroy them has increased in size and intensity far quicker than anybody really expected.

    It would be quicker and safer for all if the Israelis found and destroyed their end of the tunnels


  • #3026
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,694 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Sufa wrote: »
    Air strikes deep inside Gaza are conducted with the intention of removing Hamas' ability to launch rocket attacks against Israel. The operation to identify and close tunnels aims to remove Hamas' ability to covertly insert fighters/militants/terrorists (whatever you want to call them) into Israel with the intention of killing or kidnapping Israeli civilians. The threat of cross border attacks is very real (see 2011 attacks on wiki) and of great concern to the Israeli government and population.

    Israel didn't fully comprehend the extent of the tunnel network and the seriousness of the threat they posed until they initially entered Gaza however, and as such the operation to destroy them has increased in size and intensity far quicker than anybody really expected.

    When did you get the baton?


  • #3027
    Tail Docker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    "Hamas hadn't fired a single rocket since [2012 Gaza conflict], and had largely suppressed fire by smaller jihadi groups. Rocket firings, averaging 240 per month in 2007, dropped to five per month in 2013." International Crisis Group: "Fewer rockets were fired from Gaza in 2013 than in any year since 2001, and nearly all those that were fired between the November 2012 ceasefire and the current crisis were launched by groups other than Hamas; the Israeli security establishment testified to the aggressive anti-rocket efforts made by the new police force Hamas established specifically for that purpose.. As Israel (and Egypt) rolled back the 2012 understandings - some of which were implemented spottily at best - so too did Hamas roll back its anti rocket efforts."


    Must have been about the pesky tunnels so..probably rocket tunnels..


  • #3028
    Tail Docker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    When did you get the baton?

    It's like a hot potato at this stage..


  • #3029
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Sufa wrote: »
    Air strikes deep inside Gaza are conducted with the intention of removing Hamas' ability to launch rocket attacks against Israel. The operation to identify and close tunnels aims to remove Hamas' ability to covertly insert fighters/militants/terrorists (whatever you want to call them) into Israel with the intention of killing or kidnapping Israeli civilians. The threat of cross border attacks is very real (see 2011 attacks on wiki) and of great concern to the Israeli government and population.

    Israel didn't fully comprehend the extent of the tunnel network and the seriousness of the threat they posed until they initially entered Gaza however, and as such the operation to destroy them has increased in size and intensity far quicker than anybody really expected.

    So why are we not seeing these tunnels.on the news? Where is the footage of Israeli soldiers entering these tunnels and taking out large stocks of missiles and weapons? Why are we seeing children dead after being bombed while playing but no dead Hamas terrorists in these "terror tunnels"?


  • #3030
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Tail Docker wrote: »
    It's like a hot potato at this stage..

    Yup the night shift has started.


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  • #3031
    Sufa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Sufa


    h2005 wrote: »
    It mightn't use at as a justification but it does use it to deflect from what it is doing in Gaza.

    Yes but it is often a surprise to those who assume that they do use the holocaust as a justification to actually discover how infrequently the Israelis will ever refer to it. Instead they justify the use of military force by highlighting the existential threat posed by hostile Arab neighbours in the form of both states and non-state groups who have throughout Israel's short history have fought three wars which have seriously threatened the very existence of the Israeli state as well as thousands of terrorist attacks intending to do nothing other than bring death, destruction and pain to the people of Israel.


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