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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭huey1975


    He killed 425kg and I got €3.93/kg. however the whole batch were getting 14lb each a day but 2 never came in and this lad was always first in and last out so I figure he was eating about 20lb daily since mid April. He cost €1160 last November when he weighed 515kg so it wasn't too bad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,418 ✭✭✭tanko


    Quality continental cows over 700 kgs were making 1.80 up to 2.00 euro/kilo in the local mart today. Was serious demand for good cows compared to recent weeks. Good to see it. Factories must be paying well over quoted prices to dealers who put a load of them together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    Got 3.10 flat for Holstein


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,643 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    OH got a price of €3.70/kg for a double of overage Fr bullocks that are going tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Base price wrote: »
    OH got a price of €3.70/kg for a double of overage Fr bullocks that are going tomorrow.

    Flat price or a base of 3.7/kg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,643 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Flat price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Base price wrote: »
    Flat price.

    That is a good price it is equivlent to a base of 3.90-4/kg depending on quality of bullocks. Rang around this evening and heifers seem to be only 3.75 locally. Will hold for another week or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,643 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    That is a good price it is equivlent to a base of 3.90-4/kg depending on quality of bullocks. Rang around this evening and heifers seem to be only 3.75 locally. Will hold for another week or two.
    These bullocks are the dregs of the bulls that we killed last Autumn before the **** hit the fan regarding bull prices.
    We got them squeezed in late Jan early Feb. I posted same in a thread earlier this year.
    We sold the better quality ones off grass in April/May to lads who wanted forward bullocks to graze and fulfil their SFP requirements.
    These lads are white HO types.
    It maybe a good price on the day but they nor their counterparts will ever pay for the meal bills that they incurred.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Base price wrote: »
    These bullocks are the dregs of the bulls that we killed last Autumn before the **** hit the fan regarding bull prices.
    We got them squeezed in late Jan early Feb. I posted same in a thread earlier this year.
    We sold the better quality ones off grass in April/May to lads who wanted forward bullocks to graze and fulfil their SFP requirements.
    These lads are white HO types.
    It maybe a good price on the day but they nor their counterparts will ever pay for the meal bills that they incurred.

    Only thing is replacements are cheap. Lad at the mart yesterday told me 350-450 kgs friesians 150-200 with there weight and older lighter bullocks that will go over 30 months are less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,643 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Only thing is replacements are cheap. Lad at the mart yesterday told me 350-450 kgs friesians 150-200 with there weight and older lighter bullocks that will go over 30 months are less.
    OH has picked up some over the last few weeks however he got some real value in FR weanlings. I have to do an average on the price but I am busy with my own "thing" at the moment.
    I still have my fingers crossed that our FR and FRxJe bull calves will amount to something in time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    Rang different factory than usual one deal with today 3.10 flat O&P cows 3.35 rs... Say I'll squeeze some bit more out of him, am to ring back tomorrow afternoon, wants to kill Monday! Good enough sign they're wanted, said to him a few of them won't be in herd 70 days, "don't worry about it" he says.... How things can change :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Kill dropped 1500 down to 29K week ending 11/7. Looking at the figures the heifer kill has really dropped back to lower than last year with kill 3K stronger. We have killed 105K extra cattle. 3K cattle between steers and young bulls make up the extra kill. This time last year base was 4.2/4.3 for steers and heifers were 4.3/4.4.

    Word is that most of the bulls in the system are gone. It is a case of trying to hold as long as posssible. If the kill is lowered by another 2K we will see factory's really competing for cattle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Mad4simmental


    Kill dropped 1500 down to 29K week ending 11/7. Looking at the figures the heifer kill has really dropped back to lower than last year with kill 3K stronger. We have killed 105K extra cattle. 3K cattle between steers and young bulls make up the extra kill. This time last year base was 4.2/4.3 for steers and heifers were 4.3/4.4.



    Word is that most of the bulls in the system are gone. It is a case of trying to hold as long as posssible. If the kill is lowered by another 2K we will see factory's really competing for cattle.



    Pudsey your prediction for later in the year may come to light. You are one of the best posters on boards when it comes to beef. Fair play, could do with a few more like yourself on boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭larrymiller


    Pudsey your prediction for later in the year may come to light. You are one of the best posters on boards when it comes to beef. Fair play, could do with a few more like yourself on boards.

    Yep I agree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Pudsey your prediction for later in the year may come to light. You are one of the best posters on boards when it comes to beef. Fair play, could do with a few more like yourself on boards.

    Everybody is right now and again. I did not think the fall would have been as bad as it was. However it was not helped by farmers finishing too many cattle last winter. I would still be wary, was at a mart during the week and Contenintal heifers 400kgs were crazy. This is a place I normally do not visit but was away for a few days. I think factory's may be filling feedlots again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 mossiemag


    Good to see a bit of steady in the market.
    Do ye think it will rise or will the price just stay flat?
    Surley the late 2102 born heifers will be coming on stream soon so that should give the factories the upper hand again as cattle will be plenty?

    Is it a case of not enough cattle finished right now for these few weeks and that in a few weeks the amount of cattle finished will increase again right through to late spring?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    mossiemag wrote: »
    Good to see a bit of steady in the market.
    Do ye think it will rise or will the price just stay flat?
    Surley the late 2102 born heifers will be coming on stream soon so that should give the factories the upper hand again as cattle will be plenty?

    Is it a case of not enough cattle finished right now for these few weeks and that in a few weeks the amount of cattle finished will increase again right through to late spring?

    The figure tell us different. 105K extra cattle killed only 100K extra in the country at start of year. Yes 2013 heifers will come on stream however very few 2012 heifers left at this stage. Heifer kill 30K higher that this time last year, steer kill 40K higher, young bull kill 20K higher. 10K older bulls and 7K cows. Maybe there is extra cows and heifers that are not being replaced however cannot see these being signifcant.

    Factorys are using up stock in chill rooms and as the advert says, ''when they are all gone they are gone''. Numbers will be no higher than end of last year, we are still killing 2K/week higher that last year and that is eating into any extra cattle if they exist. If lads start to hold cattle we will be at 4/kg within 2-3 weeks. It is in our own hands. I would forget about QA and under 30 month bonus let the factory's agents come looking for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    I am killing as they come fit anyway. Have 3.75 for good Hereford bullocks for next Tuesday. I think they are going to hold at that until we see the grass cattle coming in earnest. They are making no secret of the fact they have 3.50 a kg in their crosshairs for the autumn glut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭epfff


    i am also killing as they come fit
    375 onto grid is still best I can do
    let a group of bulls off to boat that normally have went into shed for killing end of October
    don't know if I done right or wrong cant see a lot of bulls coming out of sheds this side of xmas but also cant see factories paying for bulls and im just sick of begging to get them killed
    bulls are still in my opinion the only thing that will convert meal in a shed
    I say little lift in a week but short term 360 will be the bottom in sept oct with spring being ok


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    epfff wrote: »
    i am also killing as they come fit
    375 onto grid is still best I can do
    let a group of bulls off to boat that normally have went into shed for killing end of October
    don't know if I done right or wrong cant see a lot of bulls coming out of sheds this side of xmas but also cant see factories paying for bulls and im just sick of begging to get them killed
    bulls are still in my opinion the only thing that will convert meal in a shed
    I say little lift in a week but short term 360 will be the bottom in sept oct with spring being ok

    I agree.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    Willfarman wrote: »
    I am killing as they come fit anyway. Have 3.75 for good Hereford bullocks for next Tuesday. I think they are going to hold at that until we see the grass cattle coming in earnest. They are making no secret of the fact they have 3.50 a kg in their crosshairs for the autumn glut.
    Are ya in the Hereford prime scheme every bit helps


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    I said wrote: »
    Are ya in the Hereford prime scheme every bit helps

    Yes it's a good help in fairness tho good whiteheads were hard to buy since it got going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    3.15 O&P cows
    And 3.40 r grade cows being killed Tuesday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Mad4simmental


    simx wrote: »
    3.15 O&P cows
    And 3.40 r grade cows being killed Tuesday

    Not to bad simx, you being fairly up with killing cows, what % kill roughly would you get out of a big hol cow compared to a continental cow?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    Not to bad simx, you being fairly up with killing cows, what % kill roughly would you get out of a big hol cow compared to a continental cow?

    hard question to answer as a cow could have a big belly or could be all tits, if a tightish enough fr cow that is well dry id say roughly 46%, maybe 47% continental cow may be nearer to 48/49% dependant on cover/grade, and again how gutty, had a well fleshed lmx cow well fleshed but was very gutty kill out 43%,pb cow will kill out over 50% usually


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    was in skib yesterday (forgot notes somewhere) but 15 month cattle all breed were back by up to 150e imo. fr depending on type 150+kg . br beef fr 350+ kg.
    2yr fr bullock 650kg e1050 , ones with more hols 50-100e. less.
    saw a bunch of blacks with white stripes at 550kg sell at 880-900.much too fat i recon.
    almost 4yr aa bull 850 kg went over €1100 farmer bought i think.bit demand for them,but need be 550 kg .some recon good few empties around.
    calves were dear,anything 3 weeks and over €200 +.beef breed calves €300- €350


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Last weeks kill has dropped to 28K according to FI. This must be putting pressure on factory's for cattle. We should be looking for a minimum of a 4/kg base, the kill is now lower that same time last year. It has dropped 3K in as many weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,804 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Last weeks kill has dropped to 28K according to FI. This must be putting pressure on factory's for cattle. We should be looking for a minimum of a 4/kg base, the kill is now lower that same time last year. It has dropped 3K in as many weeks.
    What are your predictions's for the coming months regarding the weekly kill as grass cattle get killed? Will the usual high no's still be available to the factories in sept October?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,886 ✭✭✭mf240


    Last weeks kill has dropped to 28K according to FI. This must be putting pressure on factory's for cattle. We should be looking for a minimum of a 4/kg base, the kill is now lower that same time last year. It has dropped 3K in as many weeks.

    The worm has turned. Time to ignore their phonecalls for a while.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭epfff


    mf240 wrote: »
    The worm has turned. Time to ignore their phonecalls for a while.
    they still not willing to pay for it


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