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Reggie. · 08-07-2014 09:52PM

LivInt20 wrote: »

This years Bull weanlings for sale.

Fair animals there

just do it · 08-07-2014 10:00PM

LivInt20 wrote: »

This years Bull weanlings for sale.

Well fleshed. Age and weight? Good luck with them.

LivInt20 · 08-07-2014 10:03PM

just do it wrote: »

Well fleshed. Age and weight? Good luck with them.

400 kgs Lim born end Aug 13
380 kgs BB born Sept 13

just do it · 08-07-2014 10:09PM

LivInt20 wrote: »

400 kgs Lim born end Aug 13
380 kgs BB born Sept 13

Have you fed them much? I've a few as well but they're lighter than yours.

I see as part of glas/ tams there will be a grant towards cattle weighing equipment. Was going to buy but will hold off now

Charliebull · 08-07-2014 10:27PM

LivInt20 wrote: »

This years Bull weanlings for sale.

Where do you show them livint20

LivInt20 · 08-07-2014 10:32PM

Charliebull wrote: »

Where do you show them livint20

Ballymote in mid August.

Charliebull · 08-07-2014 10:35PM

LivInt20 wrote: »

Ballymote in mid August.

Good stock, hope the trade there improves before then

LivInt20 · 08-07-2014 10:35PM

just do it wrote: »

Have you fed them much? I've a few as well but they're lighter than yours.

I see as part of glas/ tams there will be a grant towards cattle weighing equipment. Was going to buy but will hold off now

Bought a scales a couple of years ago. Very important piece of equipment.

Only started feeding meal on 1st July. Going to put them on 4kgs meal from 15th July.

Trying to get them into 450kgs.

Muckit · 08-07-2014 10:38PM

LivInt20 wrote: »

400 kgs Lim born end Aug 13
380 kgs BB born Sept 13

They are super weanlings. You have them turned into great cattle. Fair play.

Hopefully they see the boat and you're not shafted by the way factory prices have gone. You deserve to do well with them.

bogman_bass · 08-07-2014 11:07PM

LivInt20 wrote: »

Bought a scales a couple of years ago. Very important piece of equipment.

Only started feeding meal on 1st July. Going to put them on 4kgs meal from 15th July.

Trying to get them into 450kgs.

Is there a danger of them getting to fat for the boat?

vanderbadger · 09-07-2014 09:16AM

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

Rather there than here anyway He made a nice bullock but he's there a long time now, can't see him leaving much €. Haven't bought any in a while apart from a few bags of crunch.

quoted about 290/t dan o connor U grade beef nut, anyone else price meal recently?

just do it · 10-07-2014 02:53PM

2 homebred 9mo heifers by HCA out of 1st calves. Both cows are also AI bred by OMA.

Kovu · 10-07-2014 03:22PM

For breeding JDI? Look to be nice quiet heifers along with the quality.

just do it · 10-07-2014 04:19PM

.Kovu. wrote: »

For breeding JDI? Look to be nice quiet heifers along with the quality.

They sure are. They're weaned 3-4 weeks now and have turned inside out in the last week. I didn't think much of them but they now look twice as good as they did previously! On good grass now till housing and will be getting AI in Dec to calve down at 24m.

Muckit · 10-07-2014 07:04PM

Super animals JDI! The creme de la creme. Great grass. Love seeing the clover coming through also. Is it aftergrass?

just do it · 10-07-2014 07:36PM

Muckit wrote: »

Super animals JDI! The creme de la creme. Great grass. Love seeing the clover coming through also. Is it aftergrass?

Gee shucks

. They're on good land at the minute. Having it in paddocks has really brought it on. It was topped after last grazing and got a shake of pasture sward.

Kovu · 10-07-2014 08:13PM

Her dams breeding put her down as a possible replacement heifer at birth, but now her arse says noooooo. Ignore the frisky young'un behind her! She's a bt confused about her sexuality:D

Farrell · 10-07-2014 10:16PM

.Kovu. wrote: »

Her dams breeding put her down as a possible replacement heifer at birth, but now her arse says noooooo. Ignore the frisky young'un behind her! She's a bt confused about her sexuality:D

Not even hca?

tanko · 10-07-2014 10:21PM

Is that an ERE calf Kovu?

Kovu · 10-07-2014 10:25PM

Crossmolina Euro, came out huge and is retaining that growth rate. His figures for breeding heifers out of him aren't too promosing but she'd have been on the possible list is she hadn't started putting up so much muscle. No nuts yet so she'd only get bigger as well.

I'll sell her to you Farrell

We have an abundance of heifers this year so being picky this year.

Genghis Cant · 10-07-2014 10:31PM

.Kovu. wrote: »

Crossmolina Euro, came out huge and is retaining that growth rate. His figures for breeding heifers out of him aren't too promosing but she'd have been on the possible list is she hadn't started putting up so much muscle. No nuts yet so she'd only get bigger as well.

I'll sell her to you Farrell We have an abundance of heifers this year so being picky this year.

Super super heifer.

Farrell · 10-07-2014 10:32PM

.Kovu. wrote: »

Crossmolina Euro, came out huge and is retaining that growth rate. His figures for breeding heifers out of him aren't too promosing but she'd have been on the possible list is she hadn't started putting up so much muscle. No nuts yet so she'd only get bigger as well.

I'll sell her to you Farrell We have an abundance of heifers this year so being picky this year.

See how cash flow goes later, might get a few for the winter.
Lots of heifers ourselves too, others saying same.

Are people afraid of good ended heifers will be hard calved, or is there other issues?

Kovu · 10-07-2014 10:36PM

Farrell wrote: »

See how cash flow goes later, might get a few for the winter.
Lots of heifers ourselves too, others saying same.

Are people afraid of good ended heifers will be hard calved, or is there other issues?

Wouldn't be a major thing, issue would be starving them back enough to calve naturally. By rights if we wanted to keep the heifer above, she'd be let off with another couple of picked out heifers and summered by themselves with very scant ration so they wouldn't be putting up mud fat at the udder.

CMX heifers also don't have the best prospects on ICBF data, we've a PIO one plus two PB LMs off ERE & CWI that look better.

Farrell · 10-07-2014 10:47PM

.Kovu. wrote: »

Wouldn't be a major thing, issue would be starving them back enough to calve naturally. By rights if we wanted to keep the heifer above, she'd be let off with another couple of picked out heifers and summered by themselves with very scant ration so they wouldn't be putting up mud fat at the udder.

CMX heifers also don't have the best prospects on ICBF data, we've a PIO one plus two PB LMs off ERE & CWI that look better.

Heard that quote recently "fat on udder" would calf nuts do it, or just beef ration

Kovu · 10-07-2014 10:52PM

Farrell wrote: »

Heard that quote recently "fat on udder" would calf nuts do it, or just beef ration

I couldn't tell you if there was a difference to be honest:eek: assume it would be any sort of high protein ration to put flesh on quickly.

Never use ration here any more, too much dust and calves were leaving it behind & attracting greybacks and mags. Calf nuts all the way! Bit of icing sugar over them in a basin to start them off;)

just do it · 10-07-2014 11:03PM

.Kovu. wrote: »

I couldn't tell you if there was a difference to be honest:eek: assume it would be any sort of high protein ration to put flesh on quickly.

Never use ration here any more, too much dust and calves were leaving it behind & attracting greybacks and mags. Calf nuts all the way! Bit of icing sugar over them in a basin to start them off;)

If their energy intake exceeds their demand they'll put on fat in the udder which impedes subsequent mammary tissue development. So whether it's nuts or ration it wouldn't matter. If being held for breeding they don't need much feeding anyway.

I like your icing sugar idea. I give mine some nuts in the creep area in early spring. Then when it comes to weaning time there is no training required. Nuts all the way...

Kovu · 10-07-2014 11:05PM

just do it wrote: »

If their energy intake exceeds their demand they'll put on fat in the udder which impedes subsequent mammary tissue development. So whether it's nuts or ration it wouldn't matter. If being held for breeding they don't need much feeding anyway.

I like your icing sugar idea. I give mine some nuts in the creep area in early spring. Then when it comes to weaning time there is no training required. Nuts all the way...

That's also a great idea. Pity most of ours were still inside Mammy at that time:D

Base price · 10-07-2014 11:05PM

.Kovu. wrote: »

I couldn't tell you if there was a difference to be honest:eek: assume it would be any sort of high protein ration to put flesh on quickly.

Never use ration here any more, too much dust and calves were leaving it behind & attracting greybacks and mags. Calf nuts all the way! Bit of icing sugar over them in a basin to start them off;)

Do you not know that sugar is bad for their teeth

just do it · 10-07-2014 11:10PM

What breeding is in Kim K's mammy? She's produced a fine one there

Kovu · 10-07-2014 11:25PM

just do it wrote: »

What breeding is in Kim K's mammy? She's produced a fine one there

Easiest thing is to show you! She's out of the LIM bull Paco, prob long dead. Dam was a LM/brfr/sim mix.
Perfect cow for Leitrim land, small, light and good milk.

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