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Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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  • #5222
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    The latest I'm after hearing is the residents are now worried that they wont get the 500k if no gigs go ahead.

    The truth and reality is finally coming out for all to see. Holding everyone to ransom is all they are doing.



    Ha ha how wrong you are.

    Making up lies now, tut tut, mummy and daddy wont like that.
    The residents already were never getting €500,000.


  • #5223
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    House parties with everyone going to the toilet in the back garden? Hardman keyboard warrior, kicking wing mirrors off cars, urinating in peoples gardens to annoy them? Threatening to wreck the Croke Park area cause you don't get your way!!

    Schoolboy. Wait till you grow up and get a job, you'll get some fright.
    Cut that out.


  • #5224
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Very interesting.

    Looks like there might be 5 concerts after all I'd say.

    How, a new licence would need to be applied for, that takes 10 weeks notice, and any affected resident could go to court to have the 5 concerts halted based upon the planning permission, the agreement with the GAA, and the fact that DCC had good grounds to refuse the earlier application, grounds that have not substantially changed.


  • #5225
    nxbyveromdwjpg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,402 ✭✭✭nxbyveromdwjpg


    humanji wrote: »
    Cut that out.

    But I'm enjoying someone called John_Rambo calling someone else a hardman :)


  • #5226
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    nm wrote: »
    But I'm enjoying someone called John_Rambo calling someone else a hardman :)
    And it's ironic that someone with a Klingon for an avatar would be so petty. Give it a rest.


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  • #5227
    mrsbyrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    I think the blame lies with someone from the early 90's or 80's ...possibly a priest that cancelled a gig possibly feile in Thurles, by finding a loop hole regarding setting up a stage and planning permission. for this reason gigs with over 5 thousand attendees need planning permission, which cannot be granted until the stage is built, in most cases the few days before the gig. You Priest are the biggest cvnt since cromwell

    It took 349 pages but fair play to you. You found a way to blame the RCC. Now there are slates loose on my roof, can you find a way to blame them for that? Good man.


  • #5228
    Caliden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    If it's all or none and Garth says he couldn't possible choose 3, then let them have all 5 and let the community have all of the profits from the other 2 gigs.

    If he loves the Irish so much let him do 2 for free :D


  • #5229
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,135 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Irishcrx wrote: »
    I actually want to apologise for this statement yesturday , It was heat of the moment and I felt sorry for the fans who would be missing out. It's disapointing but I GB showed his true colours in that statement last night.

    Clearly it's sugar coated to ' get all his fans to see him' but what he really meant is I want all my money or I'm not coming, the whole thing has taken a shine off the event as a whole and off GB himself now I think I'll be selling my ticket regardless now couldn't be bothered.
    Fair play, you're the first GB fan I've seen that has called him out on his threat to pull the other 3 concerts.
    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    Garth is dead right with his threats, the county is a laughing stock and the DCC are a total joke. He obviously see the people involved as total amatuers and I dont think you will find many of the 400,000 fans blaming anyone but the residents first and foremost and then DCC for their absolute and utter incompetence. No where else in the world would this happen, planning would be granted without a second thought.
    Hold on, 3 concerts pulled bu GB, that's over 200,000 fans disappointed is the right decision because "DCC are a joke". So that's a legitimate reason to cancel 3 concerts, but the DCC's reasons aren't?
    Not blaming GB for the 3 concerts he's not going to play is like putting your fingers in your ears and saying "la la la la la, I can't hear you".


  • #5230
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Steam Roller wrote: »
    How long does a court appeal take to overrule the DCC decision?

    You think a court will over turn a planning permission made by a city council ? It anything, it will find all 5 gigs in breach, which is why that's not going to happen.


  • #5231
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    John_Rambo wrote: »
    House parties with everyone going to the toilet in the back garden?

    Totally irrelevant to this discussion.
    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Hardman keyboard warrior, kicking wing mirrors off cars,

    Find the post where I condoned that. I never even mentioned it, as a person who is extremely protective of my car I'd be the last person in the country to damage a car.
    John_Rambo wrote: »
    urinating in peoples gardens to annoy them?

    I've already said a number of time this was said in jest
    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Threatening to wreck the Croke Park area cause you don't get your way!!

    I never mentioned or condoned wrecking the croke park area. People going up and making a nuisance of themselves fair enough though, holding up traffic causing disruption, few drinks on the streets etc. Big difference to wrecking the place.
    John_Rambo wrote: »
    Schoolboy. Wait till you grow up and get a job, you'll get some fright.

    I have a job which I secured due my PhD thanks very much.


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  • #5232
    Steam Roller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Steam Roller


    Reformed Character wrote: »
    On what legal grounds, the DCC followed the law and gave a detailed explanation for their decision, what grounds would there be for any court action?

    I dont know. Thats why I was asking.


  • #5233
    Steam Roller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Steam Roller


    deandean wrote: »
    What about a bit of compromise?

    Run the two weekend gigs in the afternoons, same time that the GAA matches are played at. That way, the crowd come and go at similar times to the usual match-goers, which the locals are well used to at this stage.

    If the concerts are cancelled I see Aiken going down in flames.

    No music before 6pm allowed. So no afternoon concert.


  • #5234
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,959 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    deandean wrote: »
    What about a bit of compromise?

    They already allowed three more gigs this year than they had to according to the original agreement, in what world is that not already a compromise?

    By the way, I was surprised that there were so many talking so much rubbish trying to blame the residents or DCC in this case, but I see now that its actually just the same two idiots repeating the same stuff over and over.


  • #5235
    John_Rambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,488 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    I've already said a number of time this was said in jest

    Indeed, I'll take most of your claims on threads with a pinch of salt then. You can't be taken seriously. Carry on.


  • #5236
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,135 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »

    I never mentioned or condoned wrecking the croke park area. People going up and making a nuisance of themselves fair enough though, holding up traffic causing disruption, few drinks on the streets etc. Big difference to wrecking the place.

    Really?
    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    Everyone should turn up anyway on the night they were due to attend and cause f*king havoc in the area!!! Make the residents regret every word they uttered against the concerts.


  • #5237
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,116 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    It took 349 pages but fair play to you. You found a way to blame the RCC. Now there are slates loose on my roof, can you find a way to blame them for that? Good man.
    I would skip the blame game and get those slates fixed as there is rain coming.


  • #5238
    Steam Roller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭Steam Roller


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    You think a court will over turn a planning permission made by a city council ? It anything, it will find all 5 gigs in breach, which is why that's not going to happen.

    What are you talking about here?

    I wasnt talking about the planning permission from 1992. 3 gigs a year and more with an event license. Thats there in black and white. Otherwise nothing would have been allowed yesterday.

    How long long would it take for aiken to overrule yesterday's DCC decesion?


  • #5239
    paddyirish23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭paddyirish23


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    They already allowed three more gigs this year than they had to according to the original agreement, in what world is that not already a compromise?

    By the way, I was surprised that there were so many talking so much rubbish trying to blame the residents or DCC in this case, but I see now that its actually just the same two idiots repeating the same stuff over and over.

    My problem with the DCC is that i've bought a ticket to a concert and it took them until 3 weeks beforehand to decide that they can't go ahead.
    Surely to god someone in DCC would have the balls to come out and say as soon as the app for the licence came in that no way will you be allowed 5?!
    3 bloody weeks and i feel worse for ppl coming from abroad
    This guy picked our country for one of the biggest shows the world will ever see, He's up there with the best with hundreds of millions sold, to Residents, DCC, promoters & GAA are all in this together not just one at fault.
    Get together back in march hammer out a deal and avoid all this sh*t, how hard would that have been??!!
    Makes this country looks a right laughing stock!!


  • #5240
    inatissy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 ✭inatissy


    Steam Roller wrote: »
    What are you talking about here?

    I wasnt talking about the planning permission from 1992. 3 gigs a year and more with an event license. Thats there in black and white. Otherwise nothing would have been allowed yesterday.

    How long long would it take for aiken to overrule yesterday's DCC decesion?

    They can't.


  • #5241
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Really?

    If you want to associate havoc with wrecking then that's your decision.

    As I said in a post above it was making a nuisance with noise, disruptions etc that I had in mind.

    But carry on claiming I said things I didn't if you wish like other posters are doing.


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  • #5242
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    paddyirish23 wrote: »
    My problem with the DCC is that i've bought a ticket to a concert and it took them until 3 weeks beforehand to decide that they can't go ahead.
    Surely to god someone in DCC would have the balls to come out and say as soon as the app for the licence came in that no way will you be allowed 5?!
    3 bloody weeks and i feel worse for ppl coming from abroad
    This guy picked our country for one of the biggest shows the world will ever see, He's up there with the best with hundreds of millions sold, to Residents, DCC, promoters & GAA are all in this together not just one at fault.
    Get together back in march hammer out a deal and avoid all this sh*t, how hard would that have been??!!
    Makes this country looks a right laughing stock!!

    The reason the decision only came out 3 weeks in advance of the concert is more to do with when Aiken submitted the application. Had they submitted it earlier, they would have gotten a decision earlier.

    The fact that the council took the appropriate time to make the decision and didn't rush it is actually quite comforting.


  • #5243
    paddyirish23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭paddyirish23


    inatissy wrote: »
    They can't.

    i can smell Enda and his high horse coming in the distance :P


  • #5244
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    paddyirish23 wrote: »
    My problem with the DCC is that i've bought a ticket to a concert and it took them until 3 weeks beforehand to decide that they can't go ahead.
    Surely to god someone in DCC would have the balls to come out and say as soon as the app for the licence came in that no way will you be allowed 5?!
    3 bloody weeks and i feel worse for ppl coming from abroad
    This guy picked our country for one of the biggest shows the world will ever see, He's up there with the best with hundreds of millions sold, to Residents, DCC, promoters & GAA are all in this together not just one at fault.
    Get together back in march hammer out a deal and avoid all this sh*t, how hard would that have been??!!
    Makes this country looks a right laughing stock!!

    Again, it was Alkien who are to be blamed for late decision - they sent the application for licence in as late as possible to try pressure the DCC into giving it go ahead. Pure gombeenism "shure ill chance me arm" on behalf of Alkien


  • #5245
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Steam Roller wrote: »
    How long long would it take for aiken to overrule yesterday's DCC decesion?

    Till hell freezes over.


  • #5246
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,374 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Not blaming GB for the 3 concerts he's not going to play is like putting your fingers in your ears and saying "la la la la la, I can't hear you".

    Which is what Aiken and the GAA have done for months just expecting things would go their way.


  • #5247
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,135 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    If you want to associate havoc with wrecking then that's your decision.

    As I said in a post above it was making a nuisance with noise, disruptions etc that I had in mind.

    But carry on claiming I said things I didn't if you wish like other posters are doing.

    You're the one who said it.

    hav·oc
    noun 1. great destruction or devastation; ruinous damage.


    verb (used with object), hav·ocked, hav·ock·ing. 2. to work havoc upon; devastate.


  • #5248
    gg2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭gg2


    Won't GB be paid for all 5 concerts even if only 3 go ahead? I would have assumed that in an event like this, his fee would be safeguarded in his contract.


  • #5249
    paddyirish23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭paddyirish23


    jack presley wrote: »
    The reason the decision only came out 3 weeks in advance of the concert is more to do with when Aiken submitted the application. Had they submitted it earlier, they would have gotten a decision earlier.

    Yes but the law needs changing because it states he only needed to apply for the licence 10 weeks before the gig, which he did and i know he did this so the DCC woulld be under pressure to give the go ahead as it would only be a matter of weeks before the gigs that they'd have an answer but really?! Turning away 400000 ppl and 26M euro or something is crazy, have ppl forgotten this country is still f*cked?! Look at the tourism that they were bringing in
    As a once off let them go ahead but never again can this happen


  • #5250
    John_Rambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,488 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    If you want to associate havoc with wrecking then that's your decision.

    As I said in a post above it was making a nuisance with noise, disruptions etc that I had in mind.

    But carry on claiming I said things I didn't if you wish like other posters are doing.

    Nox, you said people should
    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    cause f*king havoc in the area!!! Make the residents regret every word they uttered against the concerts.
    That's not noise.

    You see why nobody takes your posts seriously?


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  • #5251
    OldGoat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    Steam Roller wrote: »
    How long long would it take for aiken to overrule yesterday's DCC decesion?
    There is no appeal process.

    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    The only people making a fool of themselves in this whole thing are residents and their sympathisers.

    I should clarify, the small number of residents acting the boll*cks not all residents.

    You seem to be labouring under the impression that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. The reality of the situation is that the Rights of the few outweigh the wants of the many.
    And rightly so.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



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