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Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    Great that you have something planned - sure talk about it on here if your family are avoiding. I'd a couple of annoying meetings last week and one more to go. I'm planning on treating myself to something nice on Thurs/Fri when it's all over


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭Seren_


    Just re: the discussion on the last few pages about mental health and disability. I have a more "conventional" disability as well as mental health issues, and tbh I consider the mental health issues to be a lot more disabling for me right now. I identify as disabled. I used to have a huge, huge, huge issue with doing that - I'm a perfectionist, so the I would think that because I was disabled it meant that I was worthless etc. I think I've come to terms with it a lot in the past while.

    Anyways, I'm back in here cause I've had lots of flare ups in the last while. It's funny, cause I sometimes think I must be nearly better at this stage, but then something happens and me and my mind goes and reacts in a very unhealthy way. Really stressed out with college etc. And I've been conciously trying to work on eating discover recovery so that's brought lots of stuff up too. Lay in bed last night listening to Demi Lovato songs and crying :o and having huge freakouts in front of my friends.

    Hope you're all okay. We'll all come out the other side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 650 ✭✭✭handbagmad


    This too shall pass. Using this mantra very much yesterday and today.

    Want to get back to exercise I miss it...been too I'll...

    Needing positive thoughts and vibes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭delthedriver


    handbagmad wrote: »
    This too shall pass. Using this mantra very much yesterday and today.

    Want to get back to exercise I miss it...been too I'll...

    Needing positive thoughts and vibes



    If it is to be, it is up to me!!!


    If things don't change they will stay the same !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭delthedriver


    Seren_ wrote: »
    Just re: the discussion on the last few pages about mental health and disability. I have a more "conventional" disability as well as mental health issues, and tbh I consider the mental health issues to be a lot more disabling for me right now. I identify as disabled. I used to have a huge, huge, huge issue with doing that - I'm a perfectionist, so the I would think that because I was disabled it meant that I was worthless etc. I think I've come to terms with it a lot in the past while.

    Anyways, I'm back in here cause I've had lots of flare ups in the last while. It's funny, cause I sometimes think I must be nearly better at this stage, but then something happens and me and my mind goes and reacts in a very unhealthy way. Really stressed out with college etc. And I've been conciously trying to work on eating discover recovery so that's brought lots of stuff up too. Lay in bed last night listening to Demi Lovato songs and crying :o and having huge freakouts in front of my friends.

    Hope you're all okay. We'll all come out the other side.



    Cying is part of the healing process. Things will get better.


    You are worth it!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭Killer_banana


    Shared this several places more than once but never thought to share it here before. Don't know why.



    Very good if, like me, overly positive quotes can feel a bit like a kick in the teeth at times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    The interview went well I thought. I tried to be personable without being weird. The tests didn't go so well but they were very positive about my experience so I'm hoping they can see past it. If I don't get this one it will be hard to recover. I'm at the end of my tether in terms of the job search I'm so weary of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    Hope it turns out well. Iwas just like thst recently. A good friend advised me to keep applying for stuff anyway while I was waiting to hear back even though it was so draining to apply for new jobs. im glad i kept at it in hindsight


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 59,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Hey folks, how is everyone?. I haven't been about because for some reason it's difficult to find the boards app for phone. I'll get there i'm sure.. Hiding a lot lately by sleeping, or at least just not leaving bed. Don't know why.

    Callmejimmy, you ok?.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    cheers gremlin, ah i'm in a horrible horrible place. been sleeping all day every day, just heard a cousin is going to land soon enough so I have to turn everything back on for a few hours which will be incredibly difficult.

    Hope yer doing okay


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 59,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Good, good, just thought i'd check in, i've come to see posters on this thread as a support family for lack of a better description, so if i don't see someone after a bit, i actually get a bit worried.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Now I'm just going over everything in my head on a loop- why did I do that? why did I write that? Why did I say that? God. It's going to be a long wait. :( The headache is back.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 59,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    It's hard to not ruminate, i tend to read, or watch mindless tv if i can't concentrate on a book..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    still a bit bleh. Psychotherapy session was good. I've another work meeting today, not looking forward to it one bit. I'm drained from them all, as had to play a big role in the last few and today involves discussing what happened in the last one (I know, a meeting about a meeting!). The one earlier in the week didnt go as well for me as the one last week. Something was criticised which is grand, and will be discussed today, except it dawned on me afterwards that I could have countered the criticism easily had I remembered to point out something I had forgotten. Oh well. I just dont like giving my mean workmates a stick to beat me with.

    I took a sneaky "Mental health day" yest - had to skype someone about work so decided to do that from home as it's easier than disturbing people in work. I actually totally overslept and woke 15 mins before the call! Had started back exercising the day before so that prob helped me get a good sleep. Anyway, between one thing and another teh skype thing took a while and then my internet went down so I got to do very little computer work - and just relaxing on my own at home was so so nice. If I had planned a day off I would ahve probably gone mad with a big list of stuff to get through. Instead, circumstances meant I couldnt do a whole lot in the end.

    Am in much better form thanks to the exercise I think. I go on hols next week and cant wait. I think I'll call the GP today though. I said I'd see how I felt after therapy, and it was grand but I think I need to reach out for more support.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    Came super close to handing in my notice there :( Going to ring GP asap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    Oh crikey. My GP of many years sort of semi-retired and changed practise to somewhere less convenient for me, and with very limited hours. I'm rarely ill and most recently went to a women's clinic as I had women's issues. Last time I was there was last summer to put it in context. It's close to where I live and I got on well with doctors there.

    Just rang to make appt as I otherwise have no GP. Rude receptionist insisted on asking me what it was in relation to. I said mental health issues and got a lecture about how the service is only for pregnancy/stds/etc. I said I understand that but have been before, spoken to docs about general things in addition to womens issues and really have nowhere else to go. I am just astounded at the lack of empathy and just general rudeness in relation to my need to see a professional. It set me off and now I'm in tears. I got an appointment for next week all the same. Though I'm trying to trace my old GP right now and see can I get to him in the meantime.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    Hey, so my old GP isnt there on Thurs anyway. Found a medical centre near where I live and got an appointment v quickly. The doc was amazing, very empathetic and gave me v low dose xanax. I havent taken any yet as I don't want to be drowsy just now as I something to do later. It'll be my first time taking anything.

    I actually feel so much better. Went for a cuppa with a friend a lunch which helped. Unfortunately I got in touch with a lot of people after that too and couldnt get through at the time which didnt help my feelings. OH rang me back and I was a bit upset on the phone but felt better for talking. A (nice) workmate was available to chat online and was v supportive of my actions today re:talking to the boss, which is great, as i was starting to think i was oversensitive about it as my anger and upset waned. I don't know why I even care what others think of what I do, but I guess it's nice to feel that you aren't alone and that I'm not acting out strangely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 AnonAsimov


    stinkle wrote: »
    Came super close to handing in my notice there :( Going to ring GP asap.

    Felt the same way today. A large part of it is the job/working environment.

    The place would drive you to drugs. Cant wait to be out of there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    I didn't get the job they liked me, my experience and said I interviewed well but I didn't preform well in a five minute test so that was my undoing. 5 minutes and your career and financial future is ruined. Sometimes this world takes my breath away. :confused: Feels like a sick joke. Must try to move on. Going to the cinema tonight to switch off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    aw I'm so sorry to hear that. 5 minute test sounds kinda awful. How do you feel about the other feedback? Try and get some positive from it, it doesn't sound too terrible if they liked you. Unfortunately the jobs market is so oversubscribed right now that they can do annoying things like 5 minute tests to separate the good candidates out :(

    Do keep applying for other jobs, I know its so exhausting but it might make you feel better to keep on keeping on.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    stinkle wrote: »
    aw I'm so sorry to hear that. 5 minute test sounds kinda awful. How do you feel about the other feedback? Try and get some positive from it, it doesn't sound too terrible if they liked you. Unfortunately the jobs market is so oversubscribed right now that they can do annoying things like 5 minute tests to separate the good candidates out :(

    Do keep applying for other jobs, I know its so exhausting but it might make you feel better to keep on keeping on.

    Thanks stinkle. I do take a positive from it because I haven't been that good at interviews in the past but I knew my stuff as I have lots of experience it's unfortunate that the pressure of the short test just melted my brain.

    I will have to continue to scramble to find any job as I feel all the doors back into my profession are closed. I feel like a failure, and pretty low but I know that there is more to life than this...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    You're not a failure after one interview. What was the test like and is it the type of thing you could face again? If so, you have a bit of experience with one now. Sounds like you're improving at interviews too so thats great!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭delthedriver


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Thanks stinkle. I do take a positive from it because I haven't been that good at interviews in the past but I knew my stuff as I have lots of experience it's unfortunate that the pressure of the short test just melted my brain.

    I will have to continue to scramble to find any job as I feel all the doors back into my profession are closed. I feel like a failure, and pretty low but I know that there is more to life than this...



    Do you have a friend working in HR? Perhaps they could help you brush up your interview skills and techniques.
    Also worth having a look for books on Psychometric tests. Practice some of the tests , will help boost your confidence enormously.
    In the words of Winston Churchill " Never, Never , Never Give Up !"
    Every little helps!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 59,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    If there is anything that would grind you down more than constant pain, i don't know what it is.. I could have cried most of today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭Suryavarman


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    I didn't get the job they liked me, my experience and said I interviewed well but I didn't preform well in a five minute test so that was my undoing. 5 minutes and your career and financial future is ruined. Sometimes this world takes my breath away. :confused: Feels like a sick joke. Must try to move on. Going to the cinema tonight to switch off.
    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Thanks stinkle. I do take a positive from it because I haven't been that good at interviews in the past but I knew my stuff as I have lots of experience it's unfortunate that the pressure of the short test just melted my brain.

    I will have to continue to scramble to find any job as I feel all the doors back into my profession are closed. I feel like a failure, and pretty low but I know that there is more to life than this...

    You are not a failure. Far from it. Look at what you wrote in the bolded part, that's 3 positives right there. 3 positives against one negative or if you look at this like a test you scored 75%, far from a fail! For any interview without a test you would have got the job.

    You shouldn't dwell on missing out the job either, you can't change that now but you can change what happens in the next test. You said yourself that you haven't been good at interviews before but you did well this time. There's one area that you have improved in. If you improved in that then what's to stop you improving your test performance? Maybe then next thing to do is to get a book on dealing with exam stress or looking it up on the internet. You also said that you knew your stuff, so maybe next time you only have to stay relaxed for the first minute and then the confidence from a few right answers should see you through the rest of the test.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,805 ✭✭✭Calibos


    5 weeks off Cymbalta 60mg. Had 2-3 days back sliding last week but research indicated 6 week + withdrawl is normal as are the withdrawl effects like zaps and anxiety coming and going. The Cymbalta active chemical can be stored in the liver and fats so losing weight can release some back into the system prematurely alleviating withdrawl effects. I have lost weight as my appetite returned to normal after coming off Cymbalta.

    Anyway, I've been on blood pressure meds for the last few weeks. Twas always a bit high but got bad enough to need treatment coincidentally after I came of cymbalta....or maybe not coincidentally as it turns out. The doctor had booked me a kidney scan when I started the BP meds. The scan was today.

    I came home on a high because I figured the scan showed something wrong....Stick with me!!!.....

    The radiologist who did the ultrasound didn't tell me anything other than to say the results will be sent to my GP next week and he'll contact me about them. I didn't ask either, but the 'Sherlock' in me has put two and two together for better or for worse

    The referal said 'Scan Both Kidneys'.

    She had me lie on my back and started scanning my right kidney. From the front around my side to the back. After a minute she got me to turn on my side and spent another 7 or 8 minutes scanning most of which spent scanning just under my ribs. I've never had an ultrasound or scan of anywhere never mind my kidneys before so this was normal as far as I knew.

    She then said 'Done, now lets do the other one. Turn back onto your back please' She scanned the other one for about 1 minute while I was on my back and then she said she was done. ie. No 10 minutes and no turning on my side for the left kidney.

    So I'm driving home and I'm thinking, well she obviously saw something on my right kidney cause she spent 10 minutes on it but only one minute on my left....and of those 10 minutes she spent 9 concentrating near my ribs. I then remembered the adrenal glands are on the kidneys and on the top lobes to boot...ie. near the ribs. I then had a little eureka. An adrenal problem could cause both high blood pressure and it could cause anxiety effects. Only last week I was reading an anecdotal account on a depression forum from a guy who had been put on a myriad of SSRI/SNRI's without a positive outcome and he finally asked his GP about a hormone test. The Doctor ordered the tests and sure enough he had excessive adrenal secretion which was the cause of all his anxiety issues.

    I was happy as it meant finding the root cause and treating it instead of the symptoms ie. Anxiety and blood pressure. If I had GAD/Depression I'd have it for life and have to deal with it on and off forever and the same with Blood pressure. I'd have to be on anxiety and BP meds on and off with their own negative side effects. If it turns out these are merely symptoms of an adrenal problem then when the adrenal problem is dealt with the others go away for good.

    However.....!!!!

    I then started looking at adrenal problems and their causes. The Big C is mentioned a lot... Fuuuccckkkk! Unlike the guy from a depression forum I mentioned earlier mine looks like coming to light from a scan. ie. Mine looks like it could be a growth on/in the gland rather than a hormone imbalance like yer man. Why else would she spend so long on one area of one kidney during an ultrasound of both kidneys. (Rhetorical question. I know no one can give medical advice)

    Of course chances are its nothing. I might just coincidentally have a cyst or kidney stone or something but as always seems to be the case with my family, we always seem to get the Thur/Fri appointments and have to wait through the weekend for our results. Now I have time to stew.....and worry. This scan might turn out to be great news in terms of permanently sorting my Anxiety and Blood pressure issues......or it could turn out to be very bad news indeed.

    As you can imagine, my anxiety is now back through the roof :rolleyes:

    [EDIT] Worrying a lot less about a possible terminal outcome today after more research last night and 'AHA' moments when it came to symptoms. It seems Adrenal cancers are exceedingly rare. Kidney cancers rare enough. The 'AHA' symptoms are acne which as a 40 year old man I haven't had for at least 15 years but which arrived along with the Symptoms that prompted me to get my High Blood Pressure checked out by the doctor. I had been putting the acne down to being run down and worn out. Up till that point my previous GP in the surgery and myself were putting the consistent high BP down to White Coat Syndrome. The second 'AHA' symptom was something I mentioned to family members but can't recall if I ever mentioned it to the doctor. ie. That my Heart Rate and Blood Pressure and Sweating would spike noticeably after a large meal. ie. within a few minutes or even during a meal I would feel my heart start to pound and I would start sweating profusely.

    Between the scan inferences I made yesterday about her obviously seeing something on the adrenal area of my right kidney, and so many other seemingly unrelated symptoms tallying, I have made the self diagnosis of an Adrenal Adenoma :D The acne can be caused by the growth releasing excess androgens ie. sex hormone. It did perplex me that unlike most when on cymbalta I didn't lose any of my libido just some sensitivity necessitating a change of positions if you'll excuse my plain speaking :D The Sweating/Super High BP and Heart rate after eating can be caused by pressure on the growth on the gland by the stomach or in the case of pregnant women, the uterus/fetus. ie. a big meal putting pressure on the growth causes a release of adrenaline and the fight of flight response or increased BP, Pounding heart and sweating.

    ie. Dr Google has put my mind at ease that worst case scenario is a benign growth on my right adrenal gland and likely worst case treatment option is keyhole surgery to remove it but that both my anxiety and high BP issues should be permanently sorted by it:D

    I'm more worried/anxious now about my lack of health insurance (Had to cancel it for financial reasons last year) and waiting lists in the public system :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    Woke feeling awfully anxious. Its rare on weekends but I've a good few things to do today. Was up early for a reason and am now showered and have had breakfast before my exercise class. I slept grand last might. Didn't take any xanax but was going to this morning only it has sort of passed and I also don't wasn't to be drowsy.

    Friends and OH have been wonderful. I was ready to quit my job after the bullying got to me last week. I spoke to my boss who was understanding of my feelings and reluctance to work with the bullies, but also had an attitude of me being sensitive and that this type of behaviour goes on in other Dept's. As my line manager I feel thus isn't acceptable. Timing-wise my next day in work coincides with a chance to arrange another meeting with him and I will hopefully discuss my projects and how best to manage them before I leave, as well as me talking about the bullying again and how I expect yo be supported. I effectively mentioned the giant elephant in the room last week and won't let it go.

    I feel like I'm cutting off my nose to spite my face re: some projects but feel my mental health is more important in the long run. It helps that I have a new job in the pipeline. I can only imagine how awful I'd feel if not. Though maybe having one foot out the door is making it easier for me to say things now.

    I'm on hold v soon and will get as chance to visit the new job which is great and will hopefully help me visualise getting out of thus crap situation.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 59,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Halfway through work.. Really tough going at this point. Pain has me badly distracted, no real let up at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    You are not a failure. Far from it. Look at what you wrote in the bolded part, that's 3 positives right there. 3 positives against one negative or if you look at this like a test you scored 75%, far from a fail! For any interview without a test you would have got the job.

    You shouldn't dwell on missing out the job either, you can't change that now but you can change what happens in the next test. You said yourself that you haven't been good at interviews before but you did well this time. There's one area that you have improved in. If you improved in that then what's to stop you improving your test performance? Maybe then next thing to do is to get a book on dealing with exam stress or looking it up on the internet. You also said that you knew your stuff, so maybe next time you only have to stay relaxed for the first minute and then the confidence from a few right answers should see you through the rest of the test.

    Thank you :) You're right there are some positives sometimes it's hard to see. I'm long term unemployed. My area of expertise is very specialised so it's rare to get an interview and then it's hard to find work without further training which is what they were offering. It's been difficult to make my c.v. applicable to other areas but I'm going to try and adapt and start 100% pushing in other career directions. Ideally I want a job so I can settle and start building a life (sounds simple eh?). I haven't noticed how low I've been and I've touched it in the last couple of days but I'm going to rally myself and start applying again.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭stinkle


    Im in a bad way :( yesterday was lovely and I was busy and got to see lots of people. I shoukdnt have had anything to drink as it hasn't helped my anxiety this morning. Its as bad as it was yesterday but with added sore head and upset stomach. I'm afraid to take a xanax if alcohol is still in my system (I didn't drink much and had lots of food but I guess my body isn't right at the most). I'm excited but anxious about holiday too, I'm also not looking forward to being under scrutiny as I don't intend to drinknow that I know how awful I'll be (family wedding so lots of people offering to buy rounds etc).

    I'm also dreading work tomorrow but have a fire in my belly to get things done re:bullying and bringing my project to completion. I'll try not to worry about bit till tomorrow.

    Lots to do today, just hangover puts a dampener on it. I'm gonna shower and have nice food then do nice things. Exercise is helping me lots, ive no class to go to but might go for run or buy those weights ive been meaning to get. Not sure can I face the in laws later, I'll see if the thoughts of staying home make me feel better. Not able to be 'on' and chatty right now. Our own wedding planning is well under way too and I can't face any (well meaning) questions/suggestions/interfering just now.

    Friends and oh still being great. I think now that I've seen a doc we're all taking this more seriously and that's a good thing.


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