Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

Lovely Bloke · 08-05-2014 07:56AM

Vicxas wrote: »

Utd hate city more than us.

In Manchester (or London derp)

But in Ireland the rivalry is clearly the largest between United and Liverpool, and there is absolutely no obligation for lads who are not from either city to have some fakey fake made up rivalry with City - a team who weren't even in the same division as them for the majority of the time they've been supporting United.

gucci · 08-05-2014 08:00AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

One thing that is really pissing me off as I read around is people saying Liverpool have "bottled it" or it's been a "title collapse"

That is really just the most incredibly inaccurate way of describing Liverpool's season. We will most likely finish the season having won 12, drawn 1 and lost 1 of our last 14 games. Including the longest winning run in the history of the premier league.

To win the league, it looks like we would have had to win 13 and draw 1 of our last 14 games. By not doing that we've collapsed? What nonsense.

The fact we have actually have come so close is something to be incredibly proud of, not something to be ridiculed (if anyone is being in any way genuine). Coming so close makes it hurt like ****, but it's still something to be proud of.

Even with the Crystal Palace game the other night, it wasn't a bottlejob. We'd done the hard thing by getting 3 nil up. We then went chasing goal difference, it was madness, aboslute madness, stupidity of the highest order, but hopefully the team & Rodgers will learn from it.

The simple fact is the league was pretty much lost when we lost to Chelsea, which there is never any shame in. Hopefully Rodgers and the team will also learn from that. But that's the only reason the Palace debacle happened, because we'd lost to Chelsea and knew we'd probably need goal difference so we went chasing it. We just seemingly forgot we actually can't really defend.

The desire from people who didn't want Liverpool to win the league etc to label it as a bottlejob, Rodgers as a fraud, the season as a fluke, players as playing better than they are etc etc is literally some of the most silly stuff I've ever seen or heard. The fact most of these people follow a club who've just had their worst season in modern times explains it somewhat but it's still silly.

Rodgers has proven beyond any doubt he is a fantastic manager. He has already this season shown that he can evolve and adapt so there's no reason to think the lessons of the last few weeks will be lost on him.

The likes of Henderson, Sterling and Sturridge have lived up to the potential that many have suspected they had in a massive way. There is no reason in the world to think that they won't go from strength to strength, particularly as their confidence, the squad & first team are bolstered.

Suarez has had arguably the greatest individual season in the history of the Premier League-yet was actually pretty average by his own standards for much of the second half of it. Every noise from his mouth since last summer is that he wants to get CL with Liverpool, which we've done, at a canter. As such, unless Real come in with a world record bid for him, I can't see either him nor the club being interested in a move.

Gerrard has shown that he can do something many of his critics thought he was incapable of, adapt to a more conservative role.

We now have something we've been missing the last number of years, the lure of CL football, the lure of players thinking they may genuinely be able to win a league title if they go to Liverpool, the lure of one of the youngest most dynamic managers in the game today (who's team play electric football) and much more money than we've been dealing with the last number of years.

Despite what some rival fans seem to be trying to tell themselves or us, it's a pretty awesome time to be a Liverpool fan. While there is nothing certain in football, there is good reason to be very positive about the future.

Saved me having to write out my end of season feelings, this is mostly what i feel also.
The run of wins , loss and draw is my standard calm comeback to any hysterical tabloid/skysports empowered fan (of any club) questioning how "ye have bottled it"showing how even though liverpool went close, it always was a slight long shot.

Roll on next season, more goals, more games, more entertainment and another title challenge hopefully. The reds may not win it either, but to be realistically competing again is fantastic.

mayordenis · 08-05-2014 08:02AM

One thing that you I also think people are forgetting is a bit of respect for the opposition.

The 11 game win streak maybe made us think we actually were untouchable.

Look at what people call a 'weaker' league in La Liga this weekend, and midweek.

Atletico drew with Levante, and all of a sudden everyone thinks they have it wrapped up, and then they draw 2 on the trot against Valencia and Valladolid.

You can't just turn up and win games.

Either way I am actually delighted that whatever happens we have a chance of the title on Sunday, that's pretty deadly.

Francie Barrett · 08-05-2014 08:19AM

It seems like Javi Marintez has fallen out with Pep at Bayern and is available for £20M

WANT, WANT, WANT.

upstairs for coffee · 08-05-2014 08:20AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

Even with the Crystal Palace game the other night, it wasn't a bottlejob. We'd done the hard thing by getting 3 nil up. We then went chasing goal difference, it was madness, aboslute madness, stupidity of the highest order, but hopefully the team & Rodgers will learn from it.

Great post apart from this point. 3 - 0 up with ten minutes left and to draw 3 -3 is the epitome of a bottlejob. It doesn't matter if the team was chasing the league or a midtable finish, to lose a 3 goal lead is a complete and utter bottle job.

bad2dabone · 08-05-2014 08:21AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

We will most likely finish the season having won 12, drawn 1 and lost 1 of our last 14 games. Including the longest winning run in the history of the premier league.

sorry, that's Arsenal. with 14 in a row, 2002.

Agree with the rest of your post however.

Turtyturd · 08-05-2014 08:22AM

Done deal to Arsenal apparently....could be the signing that lifts them above City to best team in the league.

bad2dabone · 08-05-2014 08:27AM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Done deal to Arsenal apparently....could be the signing that lifts them above City to best team in the league.

you just can't let an opportunity slip can you?

Kimbot · 08-05-2014 08:29AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

sorry, that's Arsenal. with 14 in a row, 2002.

Agree with the rest of your post however.

That wasnt in 1 season tho, that was split in two seasons

between 10 February 2002 and 24 August 2002

osnola ibax · 08-05-2014 08:32AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

What's West hams record vs city like?

Don't ask, it's better you don't know

Soft Falling Rain · 08-05-2014 08:32AM

barone wrote: »

this !

as long as it stays in match threads its fine by me,slag away.. we would for sure slag them if it was the other way around ..

there will be plenty of it sunday,if there is any hope we win it they will hide,once we dont they will arrive with trumpets..

personally i think the slagging should be restricted to match threads as they are bad anyway..

one more game this season..one hell of a ride

I can accept banter no problem at all. What I find hilarious though is the indignation of certain fans, crying about seeing the "true colours" of Liverpool fans this season, when I've been seeing their true colours for the past 20 odd years.

Dickerty · 08-05-2014 08:37AM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It seems like Javi Martinez has fallen out with Pep at Bayern and is available for £20M

WANT, WANT, WANT.

Would be just what we need - a powerhouse in the middle for when we are being overrun. And CL experience, which is almost a pre-requisite for any new signings...

Dickerty · 08-05-2014 08:38AM

I finally have a smidgen of respect for #daretozlatan.

Check out his reaction when a journalist gets too close to his son...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y05PzBlV--4

Turtyturd · 08-05-2014 08:40AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

you just can't let an opportunity slip can you?

To be fair it was a stupid post.

bad2dabone · 08-05-2014 08:43AM

Turtyturd wrote: »

To be fair it was a stupid post.

It was, but one posters opinion doesn’t represent how the whole fanbase feel about the squad and it’s not really worthy of a chance to get a dig in.

Mr Alan · 08-05-2014 08:44AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

sorry, that's Arsenal. with 14 in a row, 2002.

Agree with the rest of your post however.

Jonny covers this off below....

jonny24ie wrote: »

That wasnt in 1 season tho, that was split in two seasons

between 10 February 2002 and 24 August 2002

gafferino · 08-05-2014 08:46AM

Lads we made 28 new signings yesterday :pac:

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/162532-boss-welcomes-young-signings-to-liverpool

gafferino · 08-05-2014 08:48AM

I dont really follow the youth team that much but by all accounts in here this lad Rossiter could make it with the 1st team.
Seems to have a good attitude too......

"It means the world to me to win this," said the tough-tackling midfielder. "I couldn't have expected it at the start of the season - to be at an awards ceremony and to have actually won the prize. I just can't wait for next season now.

"There are plenty of other great players at the Academy and without them I wouldn't have been able to win this. You can never really be too happy with your performances, because that way you don't end up improving.

"I'm just glad this season has gone well for me. I don't really feel pressure, but it's always nice to be recognised for your performances. I just need to keep on getting better, working week-in, week-out. I need to have a good summer now and then come back pre-season ready to go again.

"It's a dream come true to [train at Melwood], but the coaches at the Academy help us out just as much and that's a good thing."

gafferino · 08-05-2014 08:51AM

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9301858/brendan-rodgers-says-liverpool-will-learn-from-their-premier-league-title-hurt

"To be successful you have to be able to lose," said Rodgers. "If you look over the years the great winners have been teams and individuals who have lost and gone on to become champions again.

"For us we have made great strides this season and there is still another game to go.

"If anyone had told us in August we would be top going into the last week of the season we would've taken it.

"To be successful you have to be able to lose. If you look over the years the great winners have been teams and individuals who have lost and gone on to become champions again."

"We've qualified for the Champions League but there is an awful lot more we want to achieve."

Rodgers also thanked the club's US-based owners, Fenway Sports Group, for their backing since he took charge at Anfield in the summer of 2012.

"I would like to thank the owners and executive team. When I came in here two years ago I came in to continue the great work done by Kenny (Dalglish).

"The owners took a young guy of 39 into one of the biggest clubs in the world and gave me the chance to develop the vision of how I want to work.

"If it wasn't for their support I probably wouldn't be here because of the pressure of modern football."

Turtyturd · 08-05-2014 09:06AM

bad2dabone wrote: »

It was, but one posters opinion doesn’t represent how the whole fanbase feel about the squad and it’s not really worthy of a chance to get a dig in.

Have a read through your own thread, you lads (yourself included) are well capable of getting digs in. Shouldn't really come as a surprise when you're on the receiving end.

Milkers · 08-05-2014 09:07AM

Top top post by Mr Alan.

It's been an incredible season for Liverpool. I also think it's fair to say the best/most complete team is going to win the league and they have also played a lot of fantastic football in doing so. Well done Manchester City.

bad2dabone · 08-05-2014 09:13AM

Turtyturd wrote: »

Have a read through your own thread, you lads (yourself included) are well capable of getting digs in. Shouldn't really come as a surprise when you're on the receiving end.

its not a surprise, and yeah of course I get a few shots in here and there, but Turdy you never let an opportunity to have a pop at arsenal slide.
It just baffles me. I enjoy your posts, just find the real hatred you have for arsenal tiring.

Sheepy99 · 08-05-2014 09:25AM

Vicxas wrote: »

Utd hate city more than us. Yet they cheer them on. It makes absolutely no sense how fickle Utd fans are.

I've never met a United fan who has said this, after all they were in the wilderness for a while and are only challenging the last 3-4seasons compared to at least 30years of strong rivalry with ye.

I get what you mean though, it would be like me cheering on Spuds to finish ahead of Arsenal in a similar situation

Sheepy99 · 08-05-2014 09:29AM

Mr Alan wrote: »

One thing that is really pissing me off as I read around is people saying Liverpool have "bottled it" or it's been a "title collapse"

That is really just the most incredibly inaccurate way of describing Liverpool's season. We will most likely finish the season having won 12, drawn 1 and lost 1 of our last 14 games. Including the longest winning run in the history of the premier league.

To win the league, it looks like we would have had to win 13 and draw 1 of our last 14 games. By not doing that we've collapsed? What nonsense.

The fact we have actually have come so close is something to be incredibly proud of, not something to be ridiculed (if anyone is being in any way genuine). Coming so close makes it hurt like ****, but it's still something to be proud of.

Even with the Crystal Palace game the other night, it wasn't a bottlejob. We'd done the hard thing by getting 3 nil up. We then went chasing goal difference, it was madness, aboslute madness, stupidity of the highest order, but hopefully the team & Rodgers will learn from it.

The simple fact is the league was pretty much lost when we lost to Chelsea, which there is never any shame in. Hopefully Rodgers and the team will also learn from that. But that's the only reason the Palace debacle happened, because we'd lost to Chelsea and knew we'd probably need goal difference so we went chasing it. We just seemingly forgot we actually can't really defend.

The desire from people who didn't want Liverpool to win the league etc to label it as a bottlejob, Rodgers as a fraud, the season as a fluke, players as playing better than they are etc etc is literally some of the most silly stuff I've ever seen or heard. The fact most of these people follow a club who've just had their worst season in modern times explains it somewhat but it's still silly.

Rodgers has proven beyond any doubt he is a fantastic manager. He has already this season shown that he can evolve and adapt so there's no reason to think the lessons of the last few weeks will be lost on him.

The likes of Henderson, Sterling and Sturridge have lived up to the potential that many have suspected they had in a massive way. There is no reason in the world to think that they won't go from strength to strength, particularly as their confidence, the squad & first team are bolstered.

Suarez has had arguably the greatest individual season in the history of the Premier League-yet was actually pretty average by his own standards for much of the second half of it. Every noise from his mouth since last summer is that he wants to get CL with Liverpool, which we've done, at a canter. As such, unless Real come in with a world record bid for him, I can't see either him nor the club being interested in a move.

Gerrard has shown that he can do something many of his critics thought he was incapable of, adapt to a more conservative role.

We now have something we've been missing the last number of years, the lure of CL football, the lure of players thinking they may genuinely be able to win a league title if they go to Liverpool, the lure of one of the youngest most dynamic managers in the game today (who's team play electric football) and much more money than we've been dealing with the last number of years.

Despite what some rival fans seem to be trying to tell themselves or us, it's a pretty awesome time to be a Liverpool fan. While there is nothing certain in football, there is good reason to be very positive about the future.

Chill out man it's only a bit of slagging coming predominantly fromt he United fans, who can't talk after this season and can more than remember letting their 8point lead with 5-6games to go slip in '12.
We all remember that.

Longest winning run in the PL is Arsenal with 14 sometime around '02 i think

Sheepy99 · 08-05-2014 09:33AM

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It seems like Javi Marintez has fallen out with Pep at Bayern and is available for £20M

WANT, WANT, WANT.

Would be a good signing for ye, source ?

Sheepy99 · 08-05-2014 09:34AM

jonny24ie wrote: »

That wasnt in 1 season tho, that was split in two seasons

between 10 February 2002 and 24 August 2002

If you're going to get technical you might as well be specific in your post.
Still counts.

mike65 · 08-05-2014 09:37AM

gafferino wrote: »

Lads we made 28 new signings yesterday :pac:

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/162532-boss-welcomes-young-signings-to-liverpool

Get his mother on LFCtv! :pac:

10000maniacs · 08-05-2014 09:40AM

I'm not a Liverpool fan, but feel sorry for Gerrard. He gave everything to the club down through the years and this was probably his last chance to win the title. The slip was a pivotal moment in the season because Chelsea probably wouldn't have scored otherwise.

mike65 · 08-05-2014 09:42AM

gafferino wrote: »

I dont really follow the youth team that much but by all accounts in here this lad Rossiter could make it with the 1st team.

This fella could be the Scholes of Liverpool (but with better tackling!) if he progresses, people tend to name check Gerrard for obvious reasons but Rossiters skill set is definitely more rounded. Vision, can tackle, pass, shoot, track back, close down.

Dickerty · 08-05-2014 09:49AM

gafferino wrote: »

I dont really follow the youth team that much but by all accounts in here this lad Rossiter could make it with the 1st team.
Seems to have a good attitude too......

He's class, you can see his attitude on the pitch as well. Only fookin 17, and plays like a 20+ year old. He's added a few goals to his game, was already one of the best passers in the side, can tackle, can get a game by the scruff. I'd like to see them pair him with Stevie as a mentor, he could be in the first team squad by start of the 2015/16 season.

Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread Summer 2014 - Mod Warning post #6893

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