Parents who overindulge their children.

I am pie · 23-04-2014 08:12PM

Ann Landers wrote: »

I don't have kids.

Yeah, me neither. I guess we must just have some weird super power which allows us to continue about our business in the presence of other human voices.

OP - never come to Latin America. Talking loudly in restaurants, public transport and pretty much everyelse is sort of a regional hobby. Honestly, it's not for you.

Ralf and Florian · 23-04-2014 10:12PM

Little Acorn wrote: »

I agree with that but I just don't think that your story proves that was the case here. It might have been for reasons like another poster suggested that the father works long hours and didn't get to spend much other quality time with the kid or else was trying to encourage the child to eat/speak.

It might have been nothing of the sort and maybe he just views meal time as a close bonding time and enjoys doting on his kid, but that doesn't mean that the same child is constantly smothered with attention at home or is an example of a child that is going to become spoilt.

You only saw them for a lunch period so it is impossible to judge them as being the type of parents who overindulge their child on a constant basis.

If it was the volume of his voice that was annoying you I can understand that as a valid annoyance, but still don't think it proves that particular child is overindulged and spoilt.

Fair enough point but I think the couple were on holiday on the basis that they both sounded like they were from Dublin and this was quite some distance from Dublin,not even Leinster.And it was the Easter Weekend.But hey thats only an assumption.

AnonoBoy · 23-04-2014 10:15PM

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

Or possibly just smart.

Probably just barren though.

I can hear the tears from here.

Ralf and Florian · 23-04-2014 10:15PM

Ann Landers wrote: »

I don't have kids.

I don't recall myself or anyone else asking you if did Annie.

ceadaoin. · 23-04-2014 10:24PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Mind my own business?Did you read the thread?This guy was going on like this at the top of his voice in a fairly small confined space almost non stop for a least half an hour.There were other people in there just as annoyed as I was judging by some of the looks he got.Of course theres nothing wrong with talking to your children but theres a time and place.

Theres a time and a place for talking to your children now? So we've had multiple threads about how kids shouldn't be allowed in restaurants/pubs/supermarkets/hallways of their own apartment buildings/public places that aren't playgrounds. Now parents are being moaned about for talking to their kids! Please enlighten us on the circumstances where you feel it is acceptable to speak to children?

Boombastic · 23-04-2014 10:28PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Theres a time and a place for talking to your children now? So we've had multiple threads about how kids shouldn't be allowed in restaurants/pubs/supermarkets/hallways of their own apartment buildings/public places that aren't playgrounds. Now parents are being moaned about for talking to their kids! Please enlighten us on the circumstances where you feel it is acceptable to speak to children?

in the playground, charades the rest of the time

Ralf and Florian · 23-04-2014 10:29PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Theres a time and a place for talking to your children now? So we've had multiple threads about how kids shouldn't be allowed in restaurants/pubs/supermarkets/hallways of their own apartment buildings/public places that aren't playgrounds. Now parents are being moaned about for talking to their kids! Please enlighten us on the circumstances where you feel it is acceptable to speak to children?

Talking to their kids at the top of their voice pretty much nonstop for half an hour in a restaurant full of people who are trying to have a relaxing evening.Slight difference.

SEPT 23 1989 · 23-04-2014 10:33PM

we are talking about children nowadays being spoken to and treated like equals?

dark crystal · 23-04-2014 10:35PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Talking to their kids at the top of their voice pretty much nonstop for half an hour in a restaurant full of people who are trying to have a relaxing evening.Slight difference.

It was lunchtime; lunchtime is busy, including families eating out. You were hardly out for a relaxing evening.

Zaph · 23-04-2014 10:37PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Probably just barren though.

I can hear the tears from here.

Being a dick first time round didn't get the reaction, or thanks, you hoped for so you thought you'd try it again, eh?

stmol32 · 23-04-2014 10:41PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

.....I dont think he spoke more than two sentences to his wife/partner.

Maybe he just hated his wife.

whupdedo · 23-04-2014 10:42PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

we are talking about children nowadays being spoken to and treated like equals?

But they're not, they're kids, parents these days try too hard to be friends with their kids instead of parents, if you start treating them as equal, the day they have to be reprimanded will not go well

ceadaoin. · 23-04-2014 10:44PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Talking to their kids at the top of their voice pretty much nonstop for half an hour in a restaurant full of people who are trying to have a relaxing evening.Slight difference.

So the the issue is that the man was talking too loudly? That would be annoying no matter who he was talking to. You didn't make a thread about people talking loudly in restaurants though, it's a thread about how speaking to children is 'over indulging' them. You don't seem to be able to defend this point without mentioning how loud the man was. Clearly you know it is ridiculous!

SEPT 23 1989 · 23-04-2014 10:44PM

whupdedo wrote: »

But they're not, they're kids, parents these days try too hard to be friends with their kids instead of parents, if you start treating them as equal the day they have to be reprimanded will not go well

I agree with you

ceadaoin. · 23-04-2014 10:48PM

whupdedo wrote: »

But they're not, they're kids, parents these days try too hard to be friends with their kids instead of parents, if you start treating them as equal, the day they have to be reprimanded will not go well

I don't think talking to your child over a meal is trying too hard to be their friend. It's teaching them basic social skills. For a lot of people, eating is a social occasion, it's an important for kids to learn how to behave in a restaurant. Unless you think a meal is about scoffing your food down as quickly as possible in complete silence?

You should speak to children as equals in my opinion. I'm sure it would do wonders for their self esteem and sense of self. Still having the parental boundaries in place is a separate issue.

whupdedo · 23-04-2014 10:54PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I don't think talking to your child over a meal is trying too hard to be their friend. It's teaching them basic social skills. For a lot of people, eating is a social occasion, it's an important for kids to learn how to behave in a restaurant. Unless you think a meal is about scoffing your food down as quickly as possible in complete silence?

I didn't say it was, i was responding to a previous post, basic social skills should involve being aware of your surroundings and adapting to certain environments, such as taking care not to be intrusive into other people's discussions, it is possible to have quality time with your family in a public place without informing everyone within earshot that you are bonding with your child

23-04-2014 10:55PM

I can't believe that a parent talking to a child at the dinner table has been classed as over indulging the child!

Maddest train of thought I've ever come across on here.

Ralf and Florian · 23-04-2014 10:56PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I don't think talking to your child over a meal is trying too hard to be their friend. It's teaching them basic social skills. For a lot of people, eating is a social occasion, it's an important for kids to learn how to behave in a restaurant. Unless you think a meal is about scoffing your food down as quickly as possible in complete silence?

You should speak to children as equals in my opinion. I'm sure it would do wonders for their self esteem and sense of self. Still having the parental boundaries in place is a separate issue.

Excuse me if it comes across like I'm repeating myself but my issue was not with the guy talking to his kid.Its that he did it very loudly,in a restaurant non stop for half an hour much to the detriment of those around him who had come there for a meal and maybe to chat among themselves in a normal manner and not like they were speaking through a foghorn.

23-04-2014 10:57PM

Wtf is the thread title about then?

23-04-2014 10:58PM

Parents doing normal parenty things offends random bystander overhearing conversation.

Parents not doing normal parenty things has the same affect.

Parents can't win.

May not become parent.

Too risky.

ceadaoin. · 23-04-2014 11:02PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Excuse me if it comes across like I'm repeating myself but my issue was not with the guy talking to his kid.Its that he did it very loudly,in a restaurant non stop for half an hour much to the detriment of those around him who had come there for a meal and maybe to chat among themselves in a normal manner and not like they were speaking through a foghorn.

Well then why did you start a thread about parents over indulging their kids? And post about how talking to children will give them ideas above their station?Should it not be about people who speak too loudly in restaurants?

nelly17 · 23-04-2014 11:02PM

As a parent I cold understand how this could be annoying, but not one fcuk do I give.

seamus · 23-04-2014 11:06PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Many parents just can't believe that not everyone shares their fascination for their kids and most of the replies here prove my point.

Actually most parents are perfectly aware that other people aren't fascinated with their child, they just don't give a fnck what anyone else thinks.

If it bothered you that much, you should have said something either to him, or to the waiter. It's your own fault that your lunch was ruined.

anncoates · 23-04-2014 11:14PM

Thanks OP. These threads are excellent resources for discovering the best ways to irritate whingers with my kids.

I'll try this one out on Sunday.

23-04-2014 11:19PM

anncoates wrote: »

Thanks OP. These threads are excellent resources for discovering the best ways to irritate whingers with my kids.

I'll try this one out on Sunday.

*clears throat*

"WHO'S A GOOD DADDY? WHO IS? WHO?"

osarusan · 23-04-2014 11:20PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Excuse me if it comes across like I'm repeating myself but my issue was not with the guy talking to his kid.Its that he did it very loudly,in a restaurant non stop for half an hour much to the detriment of those around him who had come there for a meal and maybe to chat among themselves in a normal manner and not like they were speaking through a foghorn.

did you even read the OP, OP?

anncoates · 23-04-2014 11:25PM

Candie wrote: »

*clears throat*

"WHO'S A GOOD DADDY? WHO IS? WHO?"

I've got the over tight cargo pants, birkenstocks, expensive buggy and trendy changing bag all good to go.

23-04-2014 11:27PM

anncoates wrote: »

I've got the over tight cargo pants, birkenstocks, expensive buggy and trendy changing bag all good to go.

Not to mention the eyebrows!

Sir Arthur Daley · 23-04-2014 11:32PM

Candie wrote: »

Not to mention the eyebrows!

That depends if you are a woman or a man.

Muise... · 23-04-2014 11:35PM

Sir Arthur Daley wrote: »

That depends if you are a woman or a man.

or if you like listening to LOUD people.

Parents who overindulge their children.

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