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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Leo Demidov


    carzony wrote: »
    seen a few avensis with fogs. They look great and makes it harder to spot them as garda from a distance.

    I'v seen a lot of 01 mondoes still on the go lately.. I would have thought they'd of reached the milage limit a long time ago.. :eek:

    Clocked maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    wexfjord wrote: »
    Clocked maybe?

    No way just branch cars don't get much mileage as regular cars


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    Hyundai i30 Garda Traffic Corps car
    was right behind me on the way into Galway city today, was dying to whip out the phone for a pic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    D Trent wrote: »
    Hyundai i30 Garda Traffic Corps car
    was right behind me on the way into Galway city today, was dying to whip out the phone for a pic

    Would like to know how does AGS management see the role of traffic corps going forward if these are the machines to be used????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    Old diesel wrote: »
    Would like to know how does AGS management see the role of traffic corps going forward if these are the machines to be used????

    It's the same as traffic last year getting ford focus estate


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    POGAN wrote: »
    It's the same as traffic last year getting ford focus estate

    Exactly - it makes you wonder what their vision is for traffic corps.

    I realise obviously that ive watched too many episodes of BBCs traffic cops - but youd wonder what is the way forward - and how they see the role of traffic.

    In Uk - they seem to have gone down the route of traffic not just been about traffic - but also about tackling criminals using the roads etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    Old diesel wrote: »
    Exactly - it makes you wonder what their vision is for traffic corps.

    I realise obviously that ive watched too many episodes of BBCs traffic cops - but youd wonder what is the way forward - and how they see the role of traffic.

    In Uk - they seem to have gone down the route of traffic not just been about traffic - but also about tackling criminals using the roads etc.

    Honestly I believe using traffic corp to enforce traffic legislation is the way to go but it's not a serect criminals use the roads to commit crime

    So ideally there traffic armed with tazers brings this level of support to area were armed repsone there isn't any
    This would need to put money into them tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    POGAN wrote: »
    Honestly I believe using traffic corp to enforce traffic legislation is the way to go but it's not a serect criminals use the roads to commit crime

    So ideally there traffic armed with tazers brings this level of support to area were armed repsone there isn't any
    This would need to put money into them tho

    Thats a fair point on using traffic corps to enforce traffic legislation,

    The idea of training officers/members on traffic in the use of taser is one that's already been implanted in the UK.

    Merits consideration in Ireland too I think.

    The question is - what tools should traffic corps get to do the job in terms of cars - even if you ignore the taser idea* - and said okay lets just focus on traffic enforcement only.

    *if you go down the taser route - youd definitely need to have decent cars imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    A few UK forces have gone down the route of Traffic being ARV's and specially trained at entry to properties. Makes a lot of sense imo.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Rawhead


    Mr Simpson wrote: »
    A few UK forces have gone down the route of Traffic being ARV's and specially trained at entry to properties. Makes a lot of sense imo.

    Would it not be the same as giving the RSU traffic duties if that's the case? If they are responding to calls for armed assistance and providing MOE then they won't have much time for traffic duties.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    I would dispute that.

    Chances are they are on patrol in a defined area not responding to calls that would tie them up.

    So they simply drive around issuing tickets till they are required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    Watercourse road in cork got new marked i30 tourer yesterday. Greatly needed for one busy city stations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭kub


    POGAN wrote: »
    Watercourse road in cork got new marked i30 tourer yesterday. Greatly needed for one busy city stations

    Thanks to Fred Dean: https://www.flickr.com/photos/be216cd1/14031933583/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭carzony


    Mondeo was miles behind.. looks like it didn't stand a chance..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    carzony wrote: »
    Mondeo was miles behind.. looks like it didn't stand a chance..

    Our cars generally don't stand much of a chance against any half souped upped car. Have to say that's car engine being pursued sounded great and powerful too. All those guards could do is follow it for as long as possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭kub


    Pity that there was not a decent traffic corp car around, I would imagine that they would have been able to catch up with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    kub wrote: »
    Pity that there was not a decent traffic corp car around, I would imagine that they would have been able to catch up with him.

    No, pity that the regular units, who are the ones in 99.9% of chases, didn't have a car to catch up with him.

    Not aimed at you Kub but in general, traffic and tasers, seriously? Again it's the regular lads who are in the **** day in and day out. They are the ones doing the hardest job in AGS, they are the ones walking into god knows what situation on a constant basis. It is the regular units who deserve and need appropriate ways to defend themselves.

    With that being said, all AGS should have them but if your going to be selective about it, then refer to my comments above


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    bravestar wrote: »
    No, pity that the regular units, who are the ones in 99.9% of chases, didn't have a car to catch up with him.

    Not aimed at you Kub but in general, traffic and tasers, seriously? Again it's the regular lads who are in the **** day in and day out. They are the ones doing the hardest job in AGS, they are the ones walking into god knows what situation on a constant basis. It is the regular units who deserve and need appropriate ways to defend themselves.

    With that being said, all AGS should have them but if your going to be selective about it, then refer to my comments above

    100% correct.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    bravestar wrote: »
    No, pity that the regular units, who are the ones in 99.9% of chases, didn't have a car to catch up with him.

    Not aimed at you Kub but in general, traffic and tasers, seriously? Again it's the regular lads who are in the **** day in and day out. They are the ones doing the hardest job in AGS, they are the ones walking into god knows what situation on a constant basis. It is the regular units who deserve and need appropriate ways to defend themselves.

    With that being said, all AGS should have them but if your going to be selective about it, then refer to my comments above

    I bet the guard that got shot on East wall Road isn't saying that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    lighterman wrote: »
    I bet the guard that got shot on East wall Road isn't saying that

    Yeah, he would of liked to have been armed so he could defend himself against an armed threat.

    You don't bring a knife, or a taser, to a gunfight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭kub


    bravestar wrote: »
    No, pity that the regular units, who are the ones in 99.9% of chases, didn't have a car to catch up with him.

    All i meant was that i assumed that TC had better cars than regulars for pursuits.

    ;) Just consider all those traffic violations, there must have been half a dozen penalty points in that pot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    kub wrote: »
    All i meant was that i assumed that TC had better cars than regulars for pursuits.

    ;) Just consider all those traffic violations, there must have been half a dozen penalty points in that pot.

    Haha I know what you meant mate, but traffic having better cars is kind of my point. It's the regular that are in pursuits everyday, they are the ones who need the better cars


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭kub


    bravestar wrote: »
    Haha I know what you meant mate, but traffic having better cars is kind of my point. It's the regular that are in pursuits everyday, they are the ones who need the better cars

    I agree with you, it is a farce. Here we are now in a situation where Gardai are making do with Hyundai cars. I do not know much about them, but would have at least thought that Ford were a better make. Even with that regulars should be driving cars with a least a 2.5l engine not standard family saloons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    kub wrote: »
    All i meant was that i assumed that TC had better cars than regulars for pursuits.

    ;) Just consider all those traffic violations, there must have been half a dozen penalty points in that pot.

    You can't dish out penalty points to a disqual driver or a minor.

    I bet the driver of that Supra was one of the above


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭kub


    D Trent wrote: »
    You can't dish out penalty points to a disqual driver or a minor.

    I bet the driver of that Supra was one of the above


    :confused: Why is their always a bloody excuse in the way laws are drafted in this country?
    Should just be if disqualified, then these points go on their licence when ever they get back on the road legally. Same with the Minor when they apply for their first licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    http://www.psni.police.uk/psni_fleet-2.pdf

    Came across this list which I found interesting - these are all marked vehicles by the way.

    It's like Johnston's Paint Trophy v. Premier League...!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    donvito99 wrote: »
    http://www.psni.police.uk/psni_fleet-2.pdf

    Came across this list which I found interesting - these are all marked vehicles by the way.

    It's like Johnston's Paint Trophy v. Premier League...!

    It's more like porn!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I haven't got an attitude about Hyundai or anything, and probably for most police work 1.6 is more than grand ...
    But to expect that to be a pursuit car and for 400,000 km (or whatever) ?
    Right tool for the job , if traffic need bigger cars /engines to do the job it'd probably be more cost effective to get 'em. Would have thought an overambitious upper milage limit is false economy as well.

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Markcheese wrote: »
    I haven't got an attitude about Hyundai or anything, and probably for most police work 1.6 is more than grand ...
    But to expect that to be a pursuit car and for 400,000 km (or whatever) ?
    Right tool for the job , if traffic need bigger cars /engines to do the job it'd probably be more cost effective to get 'em. Would have thought an overambitious upper milage limit is false economy as well.

    The overambitious mileage limit id say is to do with been able to keep cars on the road - it seems to look bad in the eyes of politicians if cars are having to come off the road at 300,000 kms simply down to mileage.

    The problem I see however is that 300,000 miles is still something like 187,000 miles - which frankly - I think is enough for a police car.

    Any clown in an office that thinks keeping cars on the road until 400,000 kms - ive a cure for that.

    They should be told - keep their own PRIVATE CAR on the road for 400,000 kms - :mad::mad::mad::mad: - wouldn't look such a good idea then :(

    Also need a way to stamp out nonsense like okay - Hyundai i40 at 350,000 Kms - getting big repairs done - to make it last the extra 50,000 kms - just to keep a car on the road - and instead put the repair cost towards the replacement car - this is what happens in the real world - and I bet that's what the people who think 400 k kms mileage is a good idea - do with THEIR OWN CARS.

    The traffic thing - well I think what needs to happen - is for AGS Mgt to work out what is the future direction for traffic corps - and when we have that worked out - we can then work out the capability levels we need for both the vehicles and the traffic corps members.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Boaty


    Should see the police cars going around London, wrong side of the road, going through red lights. Bloody dangerous
    They want to use all of their horsepower.
    Plenty of high powered x5's


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