Liverpool Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 Mod Warning Post #6378

Eight Ball wrote: »

Not good i'd say. He tends to be slow recovery wise from an injury.

I'm airing on the side of that belief too. For any other footballer, you'd say 'no news is good news' but for Sturridge, I'd say 'no news is bad news'

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I think you need to see video footage of him coming off to see what his movement was like so you could make up your mind on the injury .

Not saying for sure either way, just saying we don't know!

Id love to see Borini come out wear a YNWA armband vs. City. Just to let them know that he means business.

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

Any word on Sturridge ?

Not sure if its even him but sturridges brother has said hes out for norwich and has a chance of returning v chelsea, i guess palace and newcastle would be looking good for him.

https://vine.co/v/MJL9u0t1KY1

whatawaster wrote: »

I think Liverpool's is almost more so.

Atletico were 3rd and 5th the last two seasons.
Liverpool were 7th and 8th.

Barcelona/Real are stronger than City/Chelsea/Arsenal/United, but there is more depth at the top end of the Premier League.

Both would be outrageous achievements though. Hopefully both can hold on.

Yeah but finishing 3rd or 4th in Spain in recent years has meant being about as far away from first as finish 7th or 8th in England (and that's no exaggeration - the year we had our horror league season under Kenny finishing 8th, Atleti and Malaga were battling it out for a CL spot with a similar points tally). Atleti were no closer to the league that season than we were under Kenny.


What I meant in my post is that Liverpool probably wouldn't be too far down this list (top 20 probably?). We are overachieving with regards to our resources but we are far from paupers.

To give a rough idea, according to that table City (the top spending team) spend roughly 50% more than us on wages - certainly a huge amount, but not at all comparable to the financial gulf that separates Atleti from the top two in Spain.

In Spain, Real Madrid are spending roughly 3 times (200%) more on wages than Atleti.

From a very crude mathematical perspective it could be argued that Atletis achievements are about 4 times more unbelievable than ours. They have had to overcome the same financial obstacles as us times 4 (200% gap as opposed to 50% gap - really rough calculations, don't hold me to any of this exactly).

It really is David and Goliath stuff.

I'm taking nothing away from Rodgers/FSG/Liverpool's achievement which is phenomenal, but we're only punching a couple of rungs above our weight.

Atleti situation is like a flyweight taking out Mike Tyson, they win the overachievers award in Europe hands down this year.

Morzadec wrote: »

What I meant in my post is that Liverpool probably wouldn't be too far down this list (top 20 probably?). We are overachieving with regards to our resources but we are far from paupers.

I think I heard we were 20th on the radio this morning.

I didn't know 30 for 30 were doing a Hillsborough episode. I'll watch that tonight, nice one.

djPSB wrote: »

It doesn't really matter what's been spent in the last 5/6 years when considering Rodgers achievements to date.

It's only fair to consider what Rodger's has spent in his time which is very little when outgoings are accounted for.

When he took over, we were the 8th best team in the League and now he somehow has us sitting at the top of the League with very little resources invested.

I suppose we had to rebuild again and correct the money wasted on Carroll and Downing in particular (yep he nearly sold Henderson but loaning out and then selling Carroll was a huge call for a new manager).

He's spent roughly £85 Million if I'm right, sold about £30 Million with various loans in and out as well.

K-9 wrote: »

Rodgers now has 92 points over the last 38 games, never been done in the PL era by Liverpool. His win percentage and ppg (remember when we used to be so focused on that) is now better than Rafa's:

http://basstunedtored.com/2014/04/14/brendan-rodgers-liverpool-elite/

And seeing spending was brought up:http://basstunedtored.com/2014/04/08/its-a-rich-mans-world-2014/

I suppose we've spent a fortune in the last 5/6 years but also sold the most barring Spurs with the Bale money. Torres, Alonso, Mascherano, Kuyt, the 08/09 team was rebuilt, with Carroll and Downing prolonging the process.

It's 'only' 87 points but still a great record. If we win our last 4 he will increase that to 89 points.

djPSB wrote: »

So approximately £50m.

It's not much, when one considers that most of the teams that were above us when we finished 8th have spent similar amounts or more.

And our wage bill has gone down massively in that time.

Kuyt, Maxi, Bellamy, Aurelio, Carroll, Downing, Aquilani, Cole and Doni - these players represent about £35 million a year in wages

whatawaster wrote: »

And our wage bill has gone down massively in that time.

Kuyt, Maxi, Bellamy, Aurelio, Carroll, Downing, Aquilani, Cole and Doni - these players represent about £35 million a year in wages

Net spend and wages, I miss the old days!

It's some turn around from the dying days of H&G, courts and Hodgson, hell even from when Rodgers was appointed.

Norwich getting a result would be just typical, everybody worried about Chelsea and Palace and they nick a point.

Sturridge might be available for Norwich:

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/161257-daniel-sturridge-injury-latest

Just a small strain.