Gay Marriage/Marriage Equality/End of World?

Turtwig · 27-03-2014 10:09PM

mylastparadigm · 27-03-2014 10:12PM

Piliger wrote: »

A piece of amusement that is a luxury to those who already have rights, but less humorous to those without.

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

I have to start doing this.

"We're having a baby".

"Oh, cool. Would you mind explaining to me how exactly that happened? Perhaps with a diagram? I don't understand".

jees, you guys sure know how to skewer the new guy. thanks for that. just arrived, hoping id be taken at face value. nice. why'd ye have to make it so hard to root for you? ffs.

FouxDaFaFa · 27-03-2014 11:36PM

mylastparadigm wrote: »

jees, you guys sure know how to skewer the new guy. thanks for that. just arrived, hoping id be taken at face value. nice. why'd ye have to make it so hard to root for you? ffs.

I don't mean to make fun of you in particular, it was just a little funny how casually you asked Banna about quite a personal experience.

To kind of answer your question, I know a gay couple who are expecting (two women) and they just used donor sperm, like some women who have partners with less than ideal sperm or even single women.

Bannasidhe · 27-03-2014 11:48PM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

I don't mean to make fun of you in particular, it was just a little funny how casually you asked Banna about quite a personal experience.

To kind of answer your question, I know a gay couple who are expecting (two women) and they just used donor sperm, like some women who have partners with less than ideal sperm or even single women.

It's akin to casually asking single mothers how they got that baby then - what with no visible sign of a man around and all. Rude and personal and ain't no-bodies business but my own.

mylastparadigm · 27-03-2014 11:53PM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

I don't mean to make fun of you in particular, it was just a little funny how casually you asked Banna about quite a personal experience.

To kind of answer your question, I know a gay couple who are expecting (two women) and they just used donor sperm, like some women who have partners with less than ideal sperm or even single women.

well, i thought it was odd how he put it out there, and then turned it back on me when i was straight up and asked about it. to say you are gay and that you made a kid is obviously blatently a leading statement. the natural thing is to ask the person to expand.
im sorry, i dont have the time to suffer people like that. first time i post here and its the bull****. nice welcome guys. i thought here, of all places, id find tolerence.

mylastparadigm · 27-03-2014 11:55PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

It's akin to casually asking single mothers how they got that baby then - what with no visible sign of a man around and all. Rude and personal and ain't no-bodies business but my own.

ah, you wheeled it out when it suited you and then ran home with the ball. you are quick fire with your smart arse comments. if it was so personal you wouldnt have waved it around so much like a flag.

Piliger · 28-03-2014 12:00AM

mylastparadigm wrote: »

tough crowd.

day is soon approaching man. you'll be miserable like all the other married couples.

You're prob a kid, mate I've been there, done that, in recovery

FouxDaFaFa · 28-03-2014 12:01AM

mylastparadigm wrote: »

well, i thought it was odd how he put it out there, and then turned it back on me when i was straight up and asked about it. to say you are gay and that you made a kid is obviously blatently a leading statement. the natural thing is to ask the person to expand.
im sorry, i dont have the time to suffer people like that. first time i post here and its the bull****. nice welcome guys. i thought here, of all places, id find tolerence.

Banna's a woman. It's not a "leading statement", just a statement.

Turtwig · 28-03-2014 12:05AM

All matters pertaining to health, finance and other personal matters are at the discretion of a poster to discuss. NOBODY on boards has the right to speculate on the personal business of a poster, nor do they have the right to expect posters answer personal queries. In fact, persistent speculation on personal matters is a bannable offence.

mylastparadigm · 28-03-2014 12:05AM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

Banna's a woman. It's not a "leading statement", just a statement.

congratulations - you managed to correct me on something i couldnt have known. inspiring.

oscarBravo · 28-03-2014 12:05AM

mylastparadigm wrote: »

to say you are gay and that you made a kid is obviously blatently a leading statement. the natural thing is to ask the person to expand.

I'm afraid it's pretty much just rude. If a straight person that you'd just met told you they had a child, I'm sure you wouldn't even consider asking them whether they'd conceived naturally, undergone fertility treatment, adopted, abducted, whatever. It would be breathtakingly rude.

Consider this a learning experience: you don't get to ask rude and personal questions of a gay person that you wouldn't of a straight person.

Bannasidhe · 28-03-2014 12:06AM

mylastparadigm wrote: »

well, i thought it was odd how he put it out there, and then turned it back on me when i was straight up and asked about it. to say you are gay and that you made a kid is obviously blatently a leading statement. the natural thing is to ask the person to expand.
im sorry, i dont have the time to suffer people like that. first time i post here and its the bull****. nice welcome guys. i thought here, of all places, id find tolerence.

She simply pointed out that gay people already have children which she knows for a fact as she is one of them.

If some one said 'I am a single parent' would you ask him* how he got that baby then?

No. it is not a leading statement. It is a statement of fact. I am gay. I am a parent. Among many other things.

Tolerance for rudeness - not in this forum. Try AH - although I think they frown on asking people personal questions there too.

*or her

Sulla Felix · 28-03-2014 12:15AM

oscarBravo wrote: »

I'm afraid it's pretty much just rude. If a straight person that you'd just met told you they had a child, I'm sure you wouldn't even consider asking them whether they'd conceived naturally, undergone fertility treatment, adopted, abducted, whatever. It would be breathtakingly rude.

Consider this a learning experience: you don't get to ask rude and personal questions of a gay person that you wouldn't of a straight person.

Oh, I don't know, if they were a Romanian family with a blonde child, the state apparatus might dream of asking them if they abducted the child.

mylastparadigm · 28-03-2014 12:15AM

oscarBravo wrote: »

I'm afraid it's pretty much just rude. If a straight person that you'd just met told you they had a child, I'm sure you wouldn't even consider asking them whether they'd conceived naturally, undergone fertility treatment, adopted, abducted, whatever. It would be breathtakingly rude.

Consider this a learning experience: you don't get to ask rude and personal questions of a gay person that you wouldn't of a straight person.

no. you are wrong. i am quite happy to ask someone i dont know to clarify an unclear statement. that is quite fair. it has nothing to do with straight/gay. i didnt bring it up.

jees, preach much? you have a low definition of learning experience. and no one here knows what id ask a straight person! but speculate away. despite the mod warning about speculation. i speculated about nothing. i just asked a simple question. looking for a simple answer. without trying to offend anyone. breathtakingly rude? what, you are the pc brigade all of a sudden?!

mylastparadigm · 28-03-2014 12:18AM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

She simply pointed out that gay people already have children which she knows for a fact as she is one of them.

If some one said 'I am a single parent' would you ask him* how he got that baby then?

No. it is not a leading statement. It is a statement of fact. I am gay. I am a parent. Among many other things.

Tolerance for rudeness - not in this forum. Try AH - although I think they frown on asking people personal questions there too.

*or her

the person said i am gay, i made a kid. not i am gay, i am a parent. two very different statements. so... anyone willing to climb down off the high horse yet?

Piliger · 28-03-2014 12:23AM

mylastparadigm wrote: »

the person said i am gay, i made a kid. not i am gay, i am a parent. two very different statements. so... anyone willing to climb down off the high horse yet?

Nope. Keep diggin' ..

Piliger · 28-03-2014 12:23AM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Oh, I don't know, if they were a Romanian family with a blonde child, the state apparatus might dream of asking them if they abducted the child.

And quite rightly so.

marienbad · 28-03-2014 12:28AM

Piliger wrote: »

And quite rightly so.

Not meaning to sidetrack the thread , but do you really mean this ?

Delirium · 28-03-2014 12:32AM

mylastparadigm wrote: »

the person said i am gay, i made a kid. not i am gay, i am a parent. two very different statements. so... anyone willing to climb down off the high horse yet?

you're dead right. Gay folk need to explain themselves as to how they came to have children. Good manners and social decorum be damned!

iwantmydinner · 28-03-2014 12:39AM

mylastparadigm wrote: »

the person said i am gay, i made a kid. not i am gay, i am a parent. two very different statements. so... anyone willing to climb down off the high horse yet?

Different statements, how?

Piliger · 28-03-2014 02:05AM

iwantmydinner wrote: »

Different statements, how?

Different words in different order .... For a start.

old hippy · 28-03-2014 10:53AM

In other news

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26773016

Father Edmund Montgomery, a member of the organisation and a Catholic priest in Greater Manchester, said: "As the Church, we love those seeking a same-sex union, but our love for them requires we tell them the true meaning of marriage, something which that fifth of respondents find difficult but have the integrity to do by turning down the invitation.
"In our modern culture it is increasingly difficult to have an open debate without being labelled as bigoted or intolerant."
He continued: "It is a great irony that those seeking to increase tolerance do not extend that to those who disagree with them."

lazygal · 28-03-2014 12:47PM

The simple solution to being labelled a bigot is to stop being a bigot.

Cabaal · 28-03-2014 12:59PM

Its just wrong that those people that hate and despise black people just for being black are called racist,

what sort of world do we live in? :pac:

lazygal · 28-03-2014 01:37PM

Cabaal wrote: »

Its just wrong that those people that hate and despise black people just for being black are called racist,

what sort of world do we live in? :pac:

Bloody liberal agenda.

old hippy · 28-03-2014 01:52PM

lazygal wrote: »

Bloody liberal agenda.

Pc brigade and their intolerance again!

Penn · 28-03-2014 01:57PM

old hippy wrote: »

"In our modern culture it is increasingly difficult to have an open debate without being labelled as bigoted or intolerant."
He continued: "It is a great irony that those seeking to increase tolerance do not extend that to those who disagree with them."

Yeah, because open debate and tolerance consists of "we tell them the true meaning of marriage".

"Thank you for being tolerant enough to allow me to make my case. Our version of marriage is the only correct one, and people who engage in homosexual acts are sinners, and our view of that will never change, nor will any counterpoints you make be taken into consideration. I'm glad we've been able to have an open debate about this."

Cabaal · 28-03-2014 02:20PM

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-26773016

He added that, as marriage predates "the State", it should not be the government's place to change its meaning.

Marriage also pre-dates the creation of the christian religion, so by his logic they don't get to dictate it either

If we look at old civilization before the christian faith was invented we can see that a few allowed unions between same sex couples,

robindch · 28-03-2014 02:22PM

Cabaal wrote: »

Its just wrong that those people that hate and despise black people just for being black are called racist, what sort of world do we live in? :pac:

The Black Oil · 29-03-2014 11:21AM

Spokesperson for UK Coalition for Marriage on Sky News on about freedom of speech and attempts to 'shut down debate'*.

*Must have been a memo on the use of this phrase.

Gay Marriage/Marriage Equality/End of World?

Comments