Northern Ireland Saorview reception reports:

Have been moving home recently back to Fintona, Co. Tyrone. My new spot is able to pick up both Saorview multiplexes from Truskmore (E53 & E57) with a Telecam indoor aerial (non-amplified) pointing out of the ground-floor living room window in a roughly WSW direction sitting on the window sill with no pixelation at all! :eek: Transmission path distance is 70km, though it is almost line-of-sight which also helps. What also helps is that Brougher Mountain is also visual LOS from the window of the room directly above at 13km away, and that both sites are within a 30 degree arc meaning Freeview & Saorview services all come in on one indoor aerial. :cool:

Still the usual cavets about indoor aerials for reception still apply, my intention is to get two separate aerials (one for Brougher, another for Truskmore) set up in the attic - respective signals for both are very strong so even using a 3-way passive splitter should not give many problems (might actually need an attenuator for Brougher!) But for now the indoor aerial works OK. A lucky location! Just a shame Brougher isn't carrying COM7 or it would be a full house.

Zeus06 wrote: »

I'm in south down and recently lost my rte saorview signal after a few days of poor signal. Anyone any reasons as to why and any solutions how to fix?

Have you checked all the connections from the aerial to the receiver?
Could be an aerial or cable problem, water ingress, corrosion?

Zeus06 wrote: »

Freeview channels fine. Perhaps could be a cables but doubtful. need to check tomorrow.

It wasn't a sudden loss of signal so something in the setup isn't working properly.

Zeus06 wrote: »

By setup do you mean the TV setup (e.g tuning) or something else?

Aerial, combiner and cabling to the TV, the TV isn't getting sufficient signal. Might have been borderline signal strength up to now.

Zeus06 wrote: »

Scanning channel 30 which only has max 15% signal strength.

Which transmitter does the Saorview coverage checker recommend for your location - http://www.saorview.ie/get-saorview/make-the-switch/coverage-map/

I assume you're scanning for Ch.30 Three Rock, that's quite a distance for an attic aerial to get a decent signal. An outdoor aerial might be required to get a strong signal.

Clermont Carn (52, 56) or Greenore (40, 43) are closer to you and Clermont Carn is much more powerful, have you scanned for it?

What group aerial are you using for Saorview?
Which Freeview transmitter are you receiving from?

Zeus06 wrote: »

I may not get a chance to look at this again for a few days but will let you know how I get on.

Having the aerial in the attic could be problem for Three Rock reception, I'd guess if you mounted it outside you should an improvement.

Peter Rhea wrote: »

Divis has a multiplex on UHF channel 33, same as Three Rock mux 2.

Co-channel interference, that would be a problem. Divis COM7 Mux (BBC4 HD, BBC News HD etc.) sharing the same frequency as Three Rock Mux2 (RTÉ1 HD, RTÉ Junior/RTÉ1+1). Moving the aerial outside won't sort that.

@Zeus06, any chance you could get Clermont Carn (52, 56) or Greenore (40, 43) with an external aerial?

dubmick wrote: »

does BBC4HD come in on channel 33 in the North? Can't seem to pick this up despite being able to get all the other UK HD channels.

Not all UK transmitters are broadcasting BBC4 HD yet.

Patricia Mackle wrote: »

Not all UK transmitters are broadcasting BBC4 HD yet.

Thanks, will this change?

It's on lower power than the other HD services & is co-channel with Saorview mux 2 from Three Rock, so won't be widely receivable south of the border.

ERP is reputedly 10 kw which is much higher than the old pre DSO low power muxes.

Failing terrestrial reception, all the new BBC HD channels are available on Freesat and Sky.

Yes, the YouView box does pick up the Irish muxes, but you need an aerial pointing at Clermont Carn, same as in the analogue days. East Belfast was always a bit patchy for analogue reception. Really depends where you are. The YouView box doesn't handle having the UK and Irish MUXES very well either. It won't record cross MUX booked programming, so you need to leave the box on an Irish MUX if you want it to record something on one of it's channels. On the other hand, you should be able to receive the NI Mini MUX in East Belfast, this will give you RTE 1,2 and TG4. It is lower power than the other channels, but would have thought you should be able to receive it.

AndrewBelfast wrote: »

Hi - thanks for the reply

Sorry, I don't really know the technical terms yet!

What is the NI Mini MUX? (Or indeed, what is a MUX?!) How can I get this? Is there some kind of manual tune I need to do?

Also, will the Clermont Carn transmitter still give me all of the channels I currently get, including HD?

Thanks again

NI Mini-mux is RTE1/2 and TG4 being broadcast from local transmitters in NI. In your case from Black Mountain and possibly receivable also from Carnmoney (depending on topology). You could manually tune in Ch. 39 for the Black Mountain mini-mux. Clermont Carn (channels 52/56) will give you all the Saorview channels including RTE 1 HD/RTE 2 HD. In order to receive the latter you require an RTE aerial possibly amplified.

You should have absolutely no problems with the NI Mux throughout East Belfast and I doubt you'll need to upgrade your aerial.

Some parts of east Belfast should be able to receive Saorview from Clermont Cairn e.g. the lower ends of the Newtownards Road and Castlereagh Road, but other areas will have problems especially those in the lea of the Castlreagh Hills e.g. the Knock, Cregagh, and Belmont areas.

Your best bet is probably the Ni mux.

Mr. Rabbit wrote: »

I'm wondering why not ??????

On my Humax PVR (not Youview) this is done under instillation, tuning, and then manual tune

Because the YouView software isn't the same as that on the native Humax. There is no manual tune option.