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Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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  • #842
    anncoates
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    smileyj1987 wrote: »
    Ah come on now we all know you are just playing hard ball so you get compo because your an ambulance chaser . Will be the response you receive now ..

    Always hilarious that the Croker zealots actually believe that everybody else is completely obsessed with getting overpriced tickets to see a tubby cowboy or a Gah game so that's really the secret agenda of the residents.


  • #843
    [Deleted User]
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    roadsmart wrote: »
    I suggested that pages ago. What do you think park and ride means?

    While I obviously agree with towing parked cars which block roads or cars blocking driveways etc however I disagree with any form of blanket ban on cars parking in the area. Residents don't own the road their house is on or the surrounding roads and people travelling up for a match or concert have as much right to park within walking distance of the ground as a resident has a right to park outside their house.

    We almost always drive up for matches and always find legal parking within about 5 to 10 mins walk of Quinn's which is our usual meet up and starting point for games.


  • #844
    anncoates
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    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    While I obviously agree with towing parked cars which block roads or cars blocking driveways etc however I disagree with any form of blanket ban on cars parking in the area. Residents don't own the road their house is on or the surrounding roads and people travelling up for a match or concert have as much right to park within walking distance of the ground as a resident has a right to park outside their house.

    We almost always drive up for matches and always find legal parking within about 5 to 10 mins walk of Quinn's which is our usual meet up and starting point for games.

    Unfortunately, consideration for others is not legally enforceable.


  • #845
    roadsmart
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 625 ✭✭✭roadsmart


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    While I obviously agree with towing parked cars which block roads or cars blocking driveways etc however I disagree with any form of blanket ban on cars parking in the area. Residents don't own the road their house is on or the surrounding roads and people travelling up for a match or concert have as much right to park within walking distance of the ground as a resident has a right to park outside their house.

    We almost always drive up for matches and always find legal parking within about 5 to 10 mins walk of Quinn's which is our usual meet up and starting point for games.

    Considering your unbalanced, ill-caring and obnoxious numerous posts in this thread, forgive me if I completely disregard anything you have to say in relation to this.


  • #846
    bumper234
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    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    While I obviously agree with towing parked cars which block roads or cars blocking driveways etc however I disagree with any form of blanket ban on cars parking in the area. Residents don't own the road their house is on or the surrounding roads and people travelling up for a match or concert have as much right to park within walking distance of the ground as a resident has a right to park outside their house.

    We almost always drive up for matches and always find legal parking within about 5 to 10 mins walk of Quinn's which is our usual meet up and starting point for games.

    I have a parking permit do you? If you park in someones parking space outside of their house then you can and will get towed.


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  • #847
    Mrs Garth Brooks
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    I have a parking permit do you? If you park in someones parking space outside of their house then you can and will get towed.

    He didnt say anything about parking at anyone's house.


  • #848
    [Deleted User]
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    roadsmart wrote: »
    Considering your unbalanced, ill-caring and obnoxious numerous posts in this thread, forgive me if I completely disregard anything you have to say in relation to this.

    Fine by me.
    bumper234 wrote: »
    I have a parking permit do you? If you park in someones parking space outside of their house then you can and will get towed.

    How many roads actually have residents only? If there are any its very few. Roads are either open to everyone to park on for free (which there are a number available close to croke park), pay and display and permit and the very rarely permit only.

    The space outside your house is not yours its public property, if the car is parked legally and displaying a parking ticket if necessary you can't have it towed no matter how much you want to.


  • #849
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    HardLuckWoman wrote: »
    He didnt say anything about parking at anyone's house.
    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    While I obviously agree with towing parked cars which block roads or cars blocking driveways etc however I disagree with any form of blanket ban on cars parking in the area. Residents don't own the road their house is on or the surrounding roads and people travelling up for a match or concert have as much right to park within walking distance of the ground as a resident has a right to park outside their house.

    We almost always drive up for matches and always find legal parking within about 5 to 10 mins walk of Quinn's which is our usual meet up and starting point for games.
    .


  • #850
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    Fine by me.



    How many roads actually have residents only? If there are any its very few. Roads are either open to everyone to park on for free (which there are a number available close to croke park), pay and display and permit and the very rarely permit only.

    The space outside your house is not yours its public property, if the car is parked legally and displaying a parking ticket if necessary you can't have it towed no matter how much you want to.

    Unless the ticket was to disappear :rolleyes:


  • #851
    bangkok
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    do the residents make any money out of it?


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  • #852
    Johnny_Fontane
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    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    How many roads actually have residents only? If there are any its very few.

    People should probably take public transport to 82,000 seater stadiums in city centres, that should be the norm. Highlight the park and rides, even make them free (for that day). Its a massive hassle for anyone parking in the designated parking in Clonliffe College, I see lines of cars down our road for sometimes over an hour after games. You'd be mad to drive up to one of these gigs and park locally.

    Remember Nox, there are only probably two sell outs a year in croker. Also discount any game that the Dubs are in, because they dont drive. no problem parking around the stadium for galway vs corkin an all ireland semi, its just final day.

    Anyone thinking of driving up for this and parking around the stadium would be mad in my opinion, it could be complete bedlam.

    The worst I remember was timing it wrong for the tipp v kilkenny final in 2010. As a tipp man myself(!), I was playing football in the morning and driving back in. Took me 90 minutes to go the length of Dorset Street! it just didnt move.


  • #853
    smileyj1987
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    bangkok wrote: »
    do the residents make any money out of it?

    No they don't make a penny . Some might sell the free tickets they get but that's the height of it .


  • #854
    [Deleted User]
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    Unless the ticket was to disappear :rolleyes:

    In other words I am right. Breaking into a car to remove a ticket is the only method of having a legally parked car removed from the public road near your house. You do not have any more right to park outside your house than anyone else. Even with a permit it only entitles you to park somewhere within the zone if a space is available it doesn't guarantee you a spot never mind a particular spot.

    There isn't any need anyway to park where tickets are required we always park on one of the streets of Iona road where no parking permits or tickets are required.


  • #855
    Johnny_Fontane
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    smileyj1987 wrote: »
    No they don't make a penny . Some might sell the free tickets they get but that's the height of it .

    been there 6 years, got an option to buy a ticket for Ireland v Italy in six nations back in 09/10, also rang up before red hot chili peppers and asked for a ticket (it was not even half full) and was given two. Thats it. If you were pulled out once every 5 years, I'd be surprised.


  • #856
    Johnny_Fontane
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    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    In other words I am right. Breaking into a car to remove a ticket is the only method of having a legally parked car removed from the public road near your house. You do not have any right to park outside your house. Even with a permit it only entitles you to park somewhere within the zone if a space is available it doesn't guarantee you a spot never mind a particular spot.

    There isn't any need anyway to park where ticket are required we always park on one of the streets of Iona road where no parking permits or tickets are required.

    I think alot of people who normally drive to GAA games (non all irelands) will think that they can do the same for this. Remember the crowd for this are going to be older, and alot will drive. Hence, it could be very different. Your prerogative, but I certainly wouldnt risk it.


  • #857
    anncoates
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    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    There isn't any need anyway to park where tickets are required we always park on one of the streets of Iona road where no parking permits or tickets are required.

    That's not the point. The legal aspect is pointless and a red herring.

    Iona Road and most of the roads in the area are residential streets and will be completely flooded with cars, many obstructively parked and the amount of times it happens is increasing despite the fact that the location of Croke Park isn't at all suitable for crowds in the tens of thousands that drive to concerts.


  • #858
    [Deleted User]
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    Johnny_Fontane wrote: »
    I think alot of people who normally drive to GAA games (non all irelands) will think that they can do the same for this. Remember the crowd for this are going to be older, and alot will drive. Hence, it could be very different. Your prerogative, but I certainly wouldnt risk it.

    I won't be parking too close to croke park for the concert if I drive up. I will be either parking up at a friends house out past fagans or at my sisters place on the other side of the city depending on who I'm staying with. I wont be doing any driving after it as there will be drink on board ;)


  • #859
    end of the road
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    Unless the ticket was to disappear :rolleyes:
    wouldn't make a difference, their would be a record of the ticket being got, i'm sure its easy to have the machines issue reseats

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #860
    bumper234
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    end of the road wrote: »
    wouldn't make a difference, their would be a record of the ticket being got, i'm sure its easy to have the machines issue reseats

    Apparently all someone would have to do is cover the window

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057112677

    And as far as i know the machines do not take proof of purchase or issue receipts.


  • #861
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    JRant wrote: »
    Oh right so its not okay to inconvience the concert goers but old prople and young families in and around CP are fair game in your mind.
    Got it in one.


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  • #862
    roadsmart
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    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Got it in one.

    That's a great attitude, feck the residents who have to put up with it 30 or so times a year, it's the one time visitors that count.


  • #863
    smileyj1987
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    roadsmart wrote: »
    That's a great attitude, feck the residents who have to put up with it 30 or so times a year, it's the one time visitors that count.

    Ah sure what else would you expect a lot of them are going to the concerts and want them going ahead no matter the effects on the local population . The funny thing is if you tried to have something like that in their area it would be completely different .


  • #864
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,533 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    look, you live near an 82000 seater venue, by the sounds of it the residents did little to convince the council not to allow the redevelopment of the venue in the first place, so now you have to put up and get on with it, the council could have easily not allowed the redevelopment but obviously they realized their wouldn't be an issue, so time to move on put up and live with it

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #865
    Pwindedd
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    I think maybe the residents motives are being misrepresented here. The main concern is surely to prevent escalation for future years, if this one slides then next year it's 12 concerts and 18 the next. I really don't think compo is the aim, just nipping in the bud before it gets out of hand. 5 consecutive nights is a bit much. I'm sure when the houses were built in such close proximity to Croker, no one estimated the eventual outcome many decades later. Balance needs to be struck.


  • #866
    roadsmart
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    end of the road wrote: »
    look, you live near an 82000 seater venue, by the sounds of it the residents did little to convince the council not to allow the redevelopment of the venue in the first place, so now you have to put up and get on with it, the council could have easily not allowed the redevelopment but obviously they realized their wouldn't be an issue, so time to move on put up and live with it

    So according to you we should just put up with the fact that we are unreachable by two thirds of the emergency services during a major event, and get on with it.


  • #867
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    roadsmart wrote: »
    So according to you we should just put up with the fact that we are unreachable by two thirds of the emergency services during a major event, and get on with it.

    The coast guard and who else??


  • #868
    roadsmart
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 625 ✭✭✭roadsmart


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The coast guard and who else??

    Yes, I was wondering when the bank official would arrive to make light of any reasonable point put.


  • #869
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    roadsmart wrote: »
    Yes, I was wondering when the bank official would arrive to make light of any reasonable point put.

    Perhaps you can give us an example of "two thirds of the emergency services during a major event" not being able to reach an emergency??

    I'm not a bank official.


  • #870
    Mrs Garth Brooks
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    The coast guard and who else??

    Ambulance, maybe ?

    Not just a couple of people with basic first aid. Not with a crowd of 80000.


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  • #871
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    roadsmart wrote: »
    So according to you we should just put up with the fact that we are unreachable by two thirds of the emergency services during a major event, and get on with it.

    Complete over exaggeration. Really grasping at straws now


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