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Croke Park residents to seek concert injuctions.....your opinions?

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  • #782
    Optimalprimerib
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    bumper234 wrote: »
    What if a resident has a young child that would normally go to bed at 8 o'clock? Now that child has to listen to loud music and 80,000 people singing until 10:30/11:00. Then there is the noise of people leaving so lets add on another 30 minutes. Now the streets need cleaning and barriers need to be removed so lets add on another hour. Now it's midnight and that child has lost 4 hours sleep, times that by 5 nights and tell me the residents don't have a genuine gripe over this.

    Jesus christ its for 5 nights during the school holidays. As much of a gripe it may be im pretty sure they will get over it. Are kids really that precious that 5 nights will hurt them that much?

    IMO it is just a way for the residents to milk some compo for their inconvenience, in which they would be well adapted to now. It isnt the first ever concert in croker.


  • #783
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Optimalprimerib wrote: »
    IMO it is just a way for the residents to milk some compo for their inconvenience, in which they would be well adapted to now. It isnt the first ever concert in croker.

    Nobody is getting compo and tickets are not given to residents associations anymore. The tickets used to be given to committees but then you got corruption and it was family & friends of the committee members who got looked after and everyone else got ignored.

    Tickets are done by raffle nowadays and it's the fairest way. You register with the administrator once a year. There are always less tickets then residents so odds of winning are slim.


  • #784
    bumper234
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    osarusan wrote: »
    I would truly love to see the extra concerts not get approval, just to read the reactions from some of the posters on here, whose posts so far have been so obnoxious.

    Well some have advocated criminal damage to homes in the vicinity of Croke park at the mere mention of cancelling so I'm pretty sure if some concerts are cancelled we can look forward to at least one death threat and several calls to arms (pitchforks and torches are being prepared as we speak so my sources tell me)


  • #785
    bumper234
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    Optimalprimerib wrote: »
    Jesus christ its for 5 nights during the school holidays. As much of a gripe it may be im pretty sure they will get over it. Are kids really that precious that 5 nights will hurt them that much?

    And this would matter if a child was 2 years old because?
    IMO it is just a way for the residents to milk some compo for their inconvenience, in which they would be well adapted to now. It isnt the first ever concert in croker.

    Surprisingly (as far as I remember) there hasn't been a confirmed resident of the Croke park area on here saying they want compensation. The only ones who keep.claiming that this objection is just a scam to get money are people who live no where near Croke park (or any other stadia or arena) and who it seems have deaf children who can sleep through 100,000 people singing "friends in low places" (badly!)


  • #786
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bumper234 wrote: »
    And this would matter if a child was 2 years old because?

    What's the big deal about a child missing a few hours sleep (for a couple of night and no more)? You would swear they were being beaten in the street the way you are ranting on.

    Also I will again draw your attention to the poster who stated that his children have no problem sleeping despite living right beside croke park. Have you never seen a child sleep in a busy restaurant, in a noisy pub or on a flight?


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  • #787
    RiverOfLove
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭RiverOfLove


    bumper234 wrote: »
    And this would matter if a child was 2 years old because?



    Surprisingly (as far as I remember) there hasn't been a confirmed resident of the Croke park area on here saying they want compensation. The only ones who keep.claiming that this objection is just a scam to get money are people who live no where near Croke park (or any other stadia or arena) and who it seems have deaf children who can sleep through 100,000 people singing "friends in low places" (badly!)

    You want all 5 nights cancelled because you don't like Garth Brooks (and probably more than likely jealous of the major success that he has achieved here).


  • #788
    bumper234
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    RiverOfLove wrote: »
    You want all 5 nights cancelled because you don't like Garth Brooks (and probably more than likely jealous of the major success that he has achieved here).

    Really? You know me that well do you?

    FYI I went to see Brooks in the point back in 94 and thoroughly enjoyed the show. I have no issues with him playing 3 gigs but to push 5 on people in the area is too much. I'm not blaming Brooks as i am sure he probably has no idea of the residents concerns i blame the promoters and the GAA who are greedy and running roughshod over the residents


  • #789
    bumper234
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    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    What's the big deal about a child missing a few hours sleep (for a couple of night and no more)? You would swear they were being beaten in the street the way you are ranting on.

    Also I will again draw your attention to the poster who stated that his children have no problem sleeping despite living right beside croke park. Have you never seen a child sleep in a busy restaurant, in a noisy pub or on a flight?

    You obviously have no young children :rolleyes:


  • #790
    Johnny_Fontane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭Johnny_Fontane


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    What's the big deal about a child missing a few hours sleep (for a couple of night and no more)? You would swear they were being beaten in the street the way you are ranting on.

    Also I will again draw your attention to the poster who stated that his children have no problem sleeping despite living right beside croke park. Have you never seen a child sleep in a busy restaurant, in a noisy pub or on a flight?

    My Kids did sleep alright, but to allay this, put the gigs on at 6pm (fri/mon/tues) and the weekend gigs on at 4pm.

    thats what I will be saying tomorrow night. TBH, its not like a U2 tour with light shows etc, stick him on in the middle of the day, he's not going to mind.


  • #791
    [Deleted User]
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    bumper234 wrote: »
    You obviously have no young children :rolleyes:

    That's irrelevant, are you telling me its going to do some sort of terrible damage to a child to miss a few hours sleep? Because that's what you are making it sound like.

    I'm oldest of my generation of the family and have seen my sisters and cousins all grow up and I never saw missing a bit of sleep do anything on them.
    Johnny_Fontane wrote: »
    My Kids did sleep alright, but to allay this, put the gigs on at 6pm (fri/mon/tues) and the weekend gigs on at 4pm.

    thats what I will be saying tomorrow night. TBH, its not like a U2 tour with light shows etc, stick him on in the middle of the day, he's not going to mind.

    I would have no problem with the concerts being earlier if that's a compromise that would make the residents happy.


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  • #792
    Mrs Garth Brooks
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    Johnny_Fontane wrote: »
    My Kids did sleep alright, but to allay this, put the gigs on at 6pm (fri/mon/tues) and the weekend gigs on at 4pm.

    thats what I will be saying tomorrow night. TBH, its not like a U2 tour with light shows etc, stick him on in the middle of the day, he's not going to mind.

    Having a gig at 4pm isnt fair on everyone either. Gates open at 3pm.

    People travelling and using public transport with connecting buses or trains will find it hard to get to Dublin for 3pm.

    People coming from Donegal or Kerry. I think Mayo people has to get to Galway first. It takes all day to travel.

    So the solution is maybe get up earlier. There mightn't be any earlier buses or trains.

    And many hotels has a check-in time for 3pm. You cant be in two places at the same time. And the hotel might not let people check in early, depending if rooms are cleaned or not.

    6pm might be more sensible.


  • #793
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,200 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    HardLuckWoman wrote: »
    Having a gig at 4pm isnt fair on everyone either. Gates open at 3pm.

    People travelling and using public transport with connecting buses or trains will find it hard to get to Dublin for 3pm.

    People coming from Donegal or Kerry.

    So the solution is maybe get up earlier. There mightn't be any earlier buses or trains.

    And many hotels has a check-in time for 3pm. You cant be in two places at the same time. And the hotel might not let people check in early, depending if rooms are cleaned or not.

    6pm might be more sensible.

    Oh right so its not okay to inconvience the concert goers but old prople and young families in and around CP are fair game in your mind.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #794
    JRant
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    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    That's irrelevant, are you telling me its going to do some sort of terrible damage to a child to miss a few hours sleep? Because that's what you are making it sound like.

    I'm oldest of my generation of the family and have seen my sisters and cousins all grow up and I never saw missing a bit of sleep do anything on them.



    I would have no problem with the concerts being earlier if that's a compromise that would make the residents happy.

    You're still not getting the point though. It's not the few hours sleep they'll miss. It's a full week of distuption, Garda checkpoints, loud music, garda helicopters hoovering overhead till well past midnight, litter, rowdy people outside your hall door.
    I mean really, how many times does it need to be spelt out. The residents have no problem with the gigs in Croke Park per say, its the sheer volume of them that is grossly unfair and I hope CP do the right thing and the 2 extra concerts are canned.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #795
    Mrs Garth Brooks
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    JRant wrote: »
    Oh right so its not okay to inconvience the concert goers but old prople and young families in and around CP are fair game in your mind.

    Concert goers has no control over public transport.

    Im just sayin that it will be difficult to be in Dublin for 3 or 4 pm for alot of people.

    What do you want them to do? But then its clear you couldn't care less what they do. They paid for a ticket, not you.


  • #796
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JRant wrote: »
    You're still not getting the point though. It's not the few hours sleep they'll miss. It's a full week of distuption, Garda checkpoints, loud music, garda helicopters hoovering overhead till well past midnight, litter, rowdy people outside your hall door.
    I mean really, how many times does it need to be spelt out. The residents have no problem with the gigs in Croke Park per say, its the sheer volume of them that is grossly unfair and I hope CP do the right thing and the 2 extra concerts are canned.

    Its a few hours for a few days in a row and then everything will be back to normal. As I said its not 6 months in a row like you would think after reading this thread.

    Like really there is so little happening in croke park, there won't be anything worth talking about there for months. You really would think the residents were living in constant disruption from one week to the next for 52 weeks of the year.


  • #797
    The_Morrigan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭The_Morrigan


    HardLuckWoman wrote: »
    Concert goers has no control over public transport.

    Im just sayin that it will be difficult to be in Dublin for 3 or 4 pm for alot of people.

    What do you want them to do? But then its clear you couldn't care less what they do. They paid for a ticket, not you.

    People have no problems getting to croker for 3/4pm when a match is on...why would this be different?


  • #798
    Mrs Garth Brooks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    Deacon Ashy Penguin wrote: »
    Its a few hours for a few days in a row and then everything will be back to normal. As I said its not 6 months in a row like you would think after reading this thread.

    I know its not as if its every day of the year.

    Concerts are only held in the summer time.

    They have winter free from 'sh!te' music.


  • #799
    Mrs Garth Brooks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    The_Morrigan wrote: »
    People have no problems getting to croker for 3/4pm when a match is on...why would this be different?

    Do all 32 counties go to matches ? Or just the two that plays.


  • #800
    ronjo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭ronjo


    HardLuckWoman wrote: »
    Do all 32 counties go to matches ? Or just the two that plays.

    Really??? This is what your answer to his question is....


  • #801
    ProfessorPlum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭ProfessorPlum


    HardLuckWoman wrote: »
    I think Mayo people has to get to Galway first.


    Concert goers has no control over public transport.

    Im just sayin that it will be difficult to be in Dublin for 3 or 4 pm for alot of people.

    What do you want them to do? But then its clear you couldn't care less what they do. They paid for a ticket, not you.


    I haven't heard such tosh in a long time. Not able to get to Dublin by 3pm because there's no transport?? I'd say there's not many places on the island that this is a serious complaint. Of course you'll have to make it to your nearest town under your own power if you live out in the sticks, but that goes for what ever time you need to leave at. How do all the peops from Donegal manage to get down for the football, or the far reaches of Kerry for that matter. They get up early. They make arrangements. If they really need to they travel up the night before. You seem completely to ignore anybody elses wants but your own. A reasonable suggestion was made for a compromise, that in my mind, is still very hard on the residents, but no, you might be inconvenienced by getting out of the scratcher for the early bus.

    Why on earth would Mayo people need to get to Galway first, unless they got lost along the way. They have busses and trains in Mayo, hell, they even have an airport.

    Get up off your arse and grow a pair for god sake.


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  • #802
    The_Morrigan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭The_Morrigan


    HardLuckWoman wrote: »
    Do all 32 counties go to matches ? Or just the two that plays.

    People come from all over Ireland to attend matches because they may not be living in their home counties anymore.
    The public transport is there from early morning every day. Ireland is small and nowhere is more than four hours away from Dublin. I fail to see how people couldn't get to Dublin for 3pm using public transport on any given day, including a Sunday service.


  • #803
    bumper234
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    Having a gig at 4pm isnt fair on everyone either. Gates open at 3pm.

    SO
    People travelling and using public transport with connecting buses or trains will find it hard to get to Dublin for 3pm.

    So, Maybe they shouldn't live in the arse end of nowhere then.
    People coming from Donegal or Kerry. I think Mayo people has to get to Galway first. It takes all day to travel.

    They can leave early, As you have already stated sure what's a few hours sleep? :rolleyes:
    So the solution is maybe get up earlier. There mightn't be any earlier buses or trains.

    Again, the joys of living in the middle of nowhere, complain to rail/bus service about that.
    And many hotels has a check-in time for 3pm. You cant be in two places at the same time. And the hotel might not let people check in early, depending if rooms are cleaned or not.

    So? Make sure to book a hotel that will allow this.
    6pm might be more sensible.

    The bang of entitlement from your posts is nauseating :mad:


  • #804
    Mrs Garth Brooks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    bumper234 wrote: »
    SO

    So, Maybe they shouldn't live in the arse end of nowhere then.

    And maybe people shouldnt live beside Croke Park then.


  • #805
    The_Morrigan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭The_Morrigan


    Actually I should point out that die hard GAA fans manage to get to Croker for noon to ensure there is a crowd there to support the minor matches.
    It is not impossible to get to Dublin early, just takes some organisation.


  • #806
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,844 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    bumper234 wrote: »

    The bang of entitlement from your posts is nauseating :mad:

    It's not only this poster either.

    Rubbish on the streets? Can't move your car? Noisy? Broken agreement? Not my problem, move if you don't like it.

    Sickening stuff.


  • #807
    ronjo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭ronjo


    HardLuckWoman wrote: »
    And maybe people shouldnt live beside Croke Park then.

    I know the rule is attack the post and not the poster so I will just say your messages come across like horrible, self centered, entitled and extremely selfish messages.


  • #808
    Mrs Garth Brooks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    ronjo wrote: »
    I know the rule is attack the post and not the poster so I will just say your messages come across like horrible, self centered, entitled and extremely selfish messages.

    As someone else said yesterday. The only entitlement is coming from the residents who think they should control everything around Croke Park.

    Round and round in circles.


  • #809
    Stepping Stone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭Stepping Stone


    They certainly do. When Kerry are playing in Croke Park, local buses leave South Kerry at seven am. I know that there will be some organised for the concerts during the summer. Plenty of people stay in Dublin the night before the match or at least in Kildare/ Wicklow and make it a big weekend. I would put money on the fact that there will be people queuing to get in from 9am from all over the country.


  • #810
    No Pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    JRant wrote: »
    garda helicopters hoovering overhead
    I didn't even know they provided this service.


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  • #811
    ProfessorPlum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭ProfessorPlum


    HardLuckWoman wrote: »
    As someone else said yesterday. The only entitlement is coming from the residents who think they should control everything around Croke Park.

    Round and round in circles.

    You are blinded by your own pigheadedness. Where has anybody said the residents want to control everything around Croke Park?

    You, on the other hand, feel that you are entitled to go to a concert that as yet has no license, are entitled for that concert to start at a time convenient to you, and are entitled to disrupt the lives of the residents at will.

    Shocking stuff HardluckWoman, your posts really betray you as a nasty nasty person.


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