Pubs on xmas day

CB19Kevo · 25-12-2013 06:29PM

I work in a pub and we have been packed for the last 3 weeks,All staff under pressure and trying to deliver a good service.
No chance of time off as everyone is expected to work the busy nights, Will be back tomorrow night for more of the same.

1 night off over the Christmas is not a lot to ask, as has been already said if you really need it drink yourself to oblivion at home but do not expect staff to drag themselves in on Christmas day.

As for booking time off at Christmas, Not that simple, You can't expect to not work on the busiest time of year.

Happy Christmas.

GarIT · 25-12-2013 06:30PM

Strumms wrote: »

You will find the majority of people who work in a pub would like the day off. Most of people who drink in pubs are content to not be in a pub on Xmas day and do something else. Also they probably appreciate the people who work in said pubs deserve a day off. If you want to work on Xmas day then get a job where you can and don't be a begrudging ****.

In that case why don't we close for thanksgiving, passover and close everything on Fridays and Sundays and you just get over it and don't be begrudging.

Pub staff like everyone else in the country have legally assigned holidays. Why are pubs different to everywhere else?

I am completely against forcing people to work, and I am also strongly against restricting peoples freedom.

Chancer3001 · 25-12-2013 06:30PM

I can't get over the amount of people grasping to the "staff day off" nonsense.

Book the day off. Hire somebody who doesn't care about working that day. Get a job in a different industry.

Should we close airports? Shops? Hotels? Restaurants? Petrol stations?

An absolute nonsensical argument.

Mike747 · 25-12-2013 06:31PM

I'm sure pub staff would be delighted if you whinny atheists succeeded in changing the laws.

The pubs are closed two days of the year. It's not a big deal, stop acting like you're being oppressed.

GarIT · 25-12-2013 06:31PM

CB19Kevo wrote: »

I work in a pub and we have been packed for the last 3 weeks,All staff under pressure and trying to deliver a good service.
No chance of time off as everyone is expected to work the busy nights, Will be back tomorrow night for more of the same.

1 night off over the Christmas is not a lot to ask, as has been already said if you really need it drink yourself to oblivion at home but do not expect staff to drag themselves in on Christmas day.

As for booking time off at Christmas, Not that simple, You can't expect to not work on the busiest time of year.

Happy Christmas.

It would be fairly easy to legislate to make sure people can't be forced to work a religious holiday.

I assume you also know there is a legal limit on the hours one can work in any week.

GarIT · 25-12-2013 06:33PM

Mike747 wrote: »

I'm sure pub staff would be delighted if you whinny atheists succeeded in changing the laws.

The pubs are closed two days of the year. It's not a big deal, stop acting like you're being oppressed.

It is a big deal and it is most definately oppression.

How about I demand you don't work and can't legally buy alcohol on the summer solstice.

Mike747 · 25-12-2013 06:36PM

GarIT wrote: »

It is a big deal and it is most definately oppression

If that's the sort of oppression you face in life then you should consider yourself very lucky.

Insect Overlord · 25-12-2013 06:37PM

Mike747 wrote: »

I'm sure pub staff would be delighted if you whinny atheists succeeded in changing the laws.

The pubs are closed two days of the year. It's not a big deal, stop acting like you're being oppressed.

What's atheism got to do with it? Plenty of Christians like their booze too.

GarIT · 25-12-2013 06:38PM

Mike747 wrote: »

If that's the sort of oppression you face in life then you should consider yourself very lucky.

I do, but it still shouldn't be happening.

Agricola · 25-12-2013 06:39PM

GarIT wrote: »

It is a big deal and it is most definately oppression

Not being able to go into a public house to drink alcohol on Xmas Day, when you can just as easily drink it at home, is really not a big deal. The big deals in Ireland 2013 are unemployment, emigration, the debt crisis etc etc. This is not one of them. But when we live in a cushy western democracy with a great standard of living, our perceptions about what is and isnt oppression get a bit scewed.

GarIT · 25-12-2013 06:40PM

It would be very easy to protect all the reasons people want pubs closed but still allow pubs to be open. I can't see any issue with it.

GarIT · 25-12-2013 06:42PM

Agricola wrote: »

Not being able to go into a public house to drink alcohol on Xmas Day, when you can just as easily drink it at home, is really not a big deal. The big deals in Ireland 2013 are unemployment, emigration, the debt crisis etc etc. This is not one of them. But when we live in a cushy western democracy with a great standard of living, our perceptions about what is and isnt oppression get a bit scewed.

When there aren't massive problems to deal with you might as well start working on the smaller ones. IMO it is morally wrong for anybody to force a pub owner to open his pub if that is what he wants to do.

suicide_circus · 25-12-2013 06:43PM

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

if you dont want to work on xmas day then get a job where you don't, don't expect the government to force your industry to shut down for your benefit

Profit> people

Mike747 · 25-12-2013 06:44PM

GarIT wrote: »

It would be very easy to protect all the reasons people want pubs closed but still allow pubs to be open. I can't see any issue with it.

Well the pubs aren't open on xmas day and probably won't be opening anytime soon. I'll guess you'll have to grin and bear it until St Stephen's day.

jamaamaj · 25-12-2013 06:46PM

Agricola wrote: »

Not being able to go into a public house to drink alcohol on Xmas Day, when you can just as easily drink it at home, is really not a big deal. The big deals in Ireland 2013 are unemployment, emigration, the debt crisis etc etc. This is not one of them. But when we live in a cushy western democracy with a great standard of living, our perceptions about what is and isnt oppression get a bit scewed.

Screw the pubs (Ripoff merchant's the lot)

I'll tell you the Big deal - Not being able to buy Alcohol anytime of the day/night (Not the nanny state help the pubs out crap we have)

Happy xmas/new year folks long live cheap drinking at home.

GarIT · 25-12-2013 06:47PM

Mike747 wrote: »

Well the pubs aren't open on xmas day and probably won't be opening anytime soon. I'll guess you'll have to grin and bear it until St Stephen's day.

You be hard pressed to find a closed pub from what I've heard. That does say anything for why it should be illegal though.

systemicrisk · 25-12-2013 06:49PM

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

at what point does "it's only X days a year" stop working for people?

3 days, a week, maybe every second tuesday of the month? at what point does the stupidity of your argument jump into your field of view and start cursing at you

Do you not think its important to have one day a year that everyone can have a day off and spend time together. Im from a big family and this is only time we are all off at same time. We are all living away from home and it is something I really look forward to every year. I am no in any way religious.

GarIT · 25-12-2013 06:55PM

systemicrisk wrote: »

Do you not think its important to have one day a year that everyone can have a day off and spend time together. Im from a big family and this is only time we are all off at same time. We are all living away from home and it is something I really look forward to every year. I am no in any way religious.

No, you shouldn't be forced into it. I'm all for protecting peoples right to have the day off if they want though.

Just because you like to do something doesn't make it right to force other people to do it.

I am yet to see one argument against making laws to ensure people in every industry dont have to work of they don't want to and then lifting the other restrictions.

Mocha Joe · 25-12-2013 07:00PM

GarIT wrote: »

You be hard pressed to find a closed pub from what I've heard. That does say anything for why it should be illegal though.

Heard a lot of people saying this. No-one could name me one pub open in Dublin.

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Strumms · 25-12-2013 07:14PM

Mocha Joe wrote: »

Heard a lot of people saying this. No-one could name me one pub open in Dublin.

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Yes it's seriously BS.. Out of all the pubs I know, out of all the friends and staff I know all are closed.. All posting on FB at home with family and friends and enjoying a nice day off after working bloody hard serving the public and helping the public to enjoy themselves... One day isn't much to ask for and I know they are all delighted. Someone WANTING to work Xmas day or even be in a pub is so much a rare exception rather then the rule. It's **** all to do with religion and if the government or whoever want to oppress the country into relaxing for one day a year where the majority who are not involved in essential services can spend a day chilling out with family then I'm all for that... Again if you want to work on Xmas day get a job that allows you... The vast majority of the rest of us are quite content not being in the pub and having a nice day at home...

GarIT · 25-12-2013 07:17PM

Strumms wrote: »

Yes it's seriously BS.. Out of all the pubs I know, out of all the friends and staff I know all are closed.. All posting on FB at home with family and friends and enjoying a nice day off after working bloody hard serving the public and helping the public to enjoy themselves... One day isn't much to ask for and I know they are all delighted. Someone WANTING to work Xmas day or even be in a pub is so much a rare exception rather then the rule. It's **** all to do with religion and if the government or whoever want to oppress the country into relaxing for one day a year where the majority who are not involved in essential services can spend a day chilling out with family then I'm all for that... Again if you want to work on Xmas day get a job that allows you... The vast majority of the rest of us are quite content not being in the pub and having a nice day at home...

That still doesn't explain why the pins should be closed? Of they have staff that want to work and customers that want to be there what is the problem, why should they be forced to close. IMO Christmas is the most stressful day of the year rather than the most relaxing.

JohnMearsheimer · 25-12-2013 07:17PM

GarIT wrote: »

So are you suggesting because you wouldn't go I shouldn't be allowed?

No, I'm just saying I wouldn't go. What you do is your business.

dundalkfc10 · 25-12-2013 07:18PM

I know of at least 5 pubs in Dundalk and 1 or 2 in surrounding areas that are open

I am sitting on my own all day, apart from going around to see a friends kids this morning and Im heading to the pub now in the next hour. Great wee town

Strumms · 25-12-2013 07:24PM

GarIT wrote: »

That still doesn't explain why the pins should be closed? Of they have staff that want to work and customers that want to be there what is the problem, why should they be forced to close. IMO Christmas is the most stressful day of the year rather than the most relaxing.

Maybe it's stressful for you. Should that alone dictate why pubs should be open ? I'm having a lovely day. I find the whole lead up to Xmas the most stressful... I'm fine not being in the pub. I work in the aviation industry and up to late enough last night I was in the office and the last to turn the lights out. I accept that it's what i signed up for but with the weather delays and all the other variables of the industry it's a tough time and it never feels like Xmas for me until today when I get the day off. Not complaining as i have many nice perks a good wage and i enjoy it, that's just one of the downsides and there are very few. Would you also like if the airport was open also so the thousands of employees who are non essential would come into work in case you'd like to fly away some place or is that Jesus oppressing you.... No doubt you would...

Strumms · 25-12-2013 07:25PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

I know of at least 5 pubs in Dundalk and 1 or 2 in surrounding areas that are open

I am sitting on my own all day, apart from going around to see a friends kids this morning and Im heading to the pub now in the next hour. Great wee town

PM GarIT with the info... Preferably one without wifi

dundalkfc10 · 25-12-2013 07:28PM

Strumms wrote: »

PM GarIT with the info... Preferably one without wifi

Anyone from Dundalk could name at least 3 of them

Strumms · 25-12-2013 07:30PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Anyone from Dundalk could name at least 3 of them

I dunno.... You are saying that.. And you know even if that be true I'm still not having one of those "man I wish I was from Dundak" moments here...

Stabshauptmann · 25-12-2013 07:33PM

I think they should close xmas. If they opened xmas many ppl who wouldn't want to work would have to. Some might choose to, but it would largely be vulnerable employees who would be forced into working.

Xmas isnt a religious day to half the country, but it is largely a day for family.

On the other hand good friday pisses me off. Its just a normal Friday. But I've made my own tradition of it now and its not like it's a surprise the pub is closed

dundalkfc10 · 25-12-2013 07:35PM

Strumms wrote: »

I dunno.... You are saying that.. And you know even if that be true I'm still not having one of those "man I wish I was from Dundak" moments here...

Harrys
Northend
Clarkes
McArdles
Cluskeys

You want the ones in the surrounding areas aswell?

Strumms · 25-12-2013 07:39PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Harrys
Northend
Clarkes
McArdles
Cluskeys

You want the ones in the surrounding areas aswell?

Not in the slightest ! I'm quite happy kicking my heals at home thanks all the same

:pac:

Pubs on xmas day

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