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Westboro Baptist Church to picket Paul Walkers funeral

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  • #52
    Local-womanizer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    I'm aware of the circumstances of the crash, thanks.

    And yes, you are quiet right, he could have made a discreet donation unknown to anyone, but given the circumstances of his death, the cynic in me tells me his "people " would have been shouting it from the rooftops if he had.

    So you're dislike of the man comes from you're notion that he was just looking to boost his own reputation, even though there is no proof to support this.

    In fairness he was never in the news or in the papers all the years he was doing his charity work. Hd just got on with it quietly.


  • #53
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    These people are the scum of the earth, whatever their feelings about Walker and the circumstances of his death he's gone, they can't reach him now. All they will do is hurt those he has left behind, his 15 yr old daughter in particular doesn't need this at this time.


  • #54
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,289 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    So kill them because you don't agree with them...

    Land of the free indeed!
    Some lives are worth more than others and some, like these cretins, have negative value.


  • #55
    AngeGal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭AngeGal


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    So kill them because you don't agree with them...

    Land of the free indeed!

    Not because you don't agree with them, but because they're hateful scumbags who try to make the hardest days in peoples lives even worse.


  • #56
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Local-womanizer wrote: »
    So you're dislike of the man comes from you're notion that he was just looking to boost his own reputation, even though there is no proof to support this.

    In fairness he was never in the news or in the papers all the years he was doing his charity work. Hd just got on with it quietly.
    The irony of leaving a charity event in a top of the range Porsche seems to be lost on posters here.


  • #57
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Some lives are worth more than others and some, like these cretins, have negative value.

    Nope.


  • #58
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    So kill them because you don't agree with them...

    Land of the free indeed!

    In a country where innocent people are killed in schools, cinemas, shopping malls, gas stations and workplaces by batshit insane gunmen, I'm amazed a grieving family member or friend hasn't gone batshit themselves and attempted to kill these fucktards, what with having an actual motive and all.

    Not condoning it, just saying it must have passed through quite a few people's minds over the years.

    Also, your ill-informed comments about Paul Walker are well wide of the mark. He actually set up the charity Reach out Worldwide off his own back and was fundraising for it on the night he died to aid families devastated by the recent typhoon in the Philippines.

    Educate yourself:

    https://www.roww.org/about_us.php

    It was not a self-serving publicity stunt.


  • #59
    Danger781
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,687 ✭✭✭Danger781


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    The irony of leaving a charity event in a top of the range Porsche seems to be lost on posters here.

    Has anyone ever told you that you're very annoying? :confused:


  • #60
    Hoop66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    The irony of leaving a charity event in a top of the range Porsche seems to be lost on posters here.
    I know! He should have been dragged away by a donkey, probably while wearing a loincloth.


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  • #61
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    The irony of leaving a charity event in a top of the range Porsche seems to be lost on posters here.

    In fairness to him, it wasn't even his own


  • #62
    Sleepy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,289 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Nope.
    Wow, your inciteful and well reasoned argument has totally changed my opinion... :rolleyes:


  • #63
    TheMza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭TheMza


    The gay community should picket funerals of members of this "church", see how they feel about it then? Not even the gay community actually, any right-thinking people should join in! Taste of their own medicine!


  • #64
    Local-womanizer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    The irony of leaving a charity event in a top of the range Porsche seems to be lost on posters here.

    He is known for his interest in everything motoring. He organised charity events around motoring. Hence why he likes to drive top of the range cars.

    And what, just because someone donates to charity means they should live a paupers life?


  • #65
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    AngeGal wrote: »
    Not because you don't agree with them, but because they're hateful scumbags who try to make the hardest days in peoples lives even worse.
    I hate the way people simplify condemnation of appalling behaviour into "stuff that people just disagree with." Looks slightly like a defence of such behaviour too.
    Paul Walker still did a lot more good for people than the WBC ***** have ever done, which was the original point.
    Nobody said anything about the speeding by the driver of the car being among the good things that Walker did either, that's just a strawman.

    Walker wasn't that well known at all, which would indicate that he wasn't all ostentatious about his philanthropy.

    Sometimes there might be no harm in the Trollerdome being kept open - then the offloading could continue in there instead of here.


  • #66
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    The irony of leaving a charity event in a top of the range Porsche seems to be lost on posters here.

    He was at the charity event on the Saturday. Roger Rodas(the driver) backed the car in, with apparent clutch problems making the car stall. Paul hopped in to assist, and decided to take it to his dealership in close proximity. There is no irony, I still don't understand why people are so cynical over it.


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  • #67
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    TheMza wrote: »
    The gay community should picket funerals of members of this "church", see how they feel about it then? Not even the gay community actually, any right-thinking people should join in! Taste of their own medicine!

    The Satanists had an even better idea


  • #68
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Local-womanizer wrote: »
    He is known for his interest in everything motoring. He organised charity events around motoring. Hence why he likes to drive top of the range cars.

    And what, just because someone donates to charity means they should live a paupers life?

    Exactly. The pope sits on a golden thrown preaching about vows of poverty


  • #69
    JordanW5497
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭JordanW5497


    Ain't the Rock and Vin Diesel going to be there? lol.


  • #70
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    JordanW5497 wrote: »
    Ain't the Rock and Vin Diesel going to be there? lol.

    Oh I ****ing sincerely hope so!! :D


  • #71
    EazyD
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭EazyD


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    Exactly. The pope sits on a golden thrown preaching about vows of poverty

    You should research before commenting. http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0326/378507-pope-francis-vatican/ Im not religious myself but even I'll concede he appears a very trustworthy and genuine man who wants to reshape the church for the better. (Favours right to gay marriage is one example)


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  • #72
    Dontfadeaway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Dontfadeaway


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    The irony of leaving a charity event in a top of the range Porsche seems to be lost on posters here.
    The car show and toy drive event was held at Walker’s automotive shop Always Evolving in Valencia, just north of Los Angeles, with proceeds earmarked for families affected by the typhoon in the Philippines and a tornado in Indiana.

    Not really shocking to have top cars there to gain interest.


  • #73
    Eutow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    The irony of leaving a charity event in a top of the range Porsche seems to be lost on posters here.


    Yes, how dare somebody like fast expensive cars, and also be concerned and try to help people in third world countries. :rolleyes:


  • #74
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    I'm aware of the circumstances of the crash, thanks.

    And yes, you are quiet right, he could have made a discreet donation unknown to anyone, but given the circumstances of his death, the cynic in me tells me his "people " would have been shouting it from the rooftops if he had.

    Are you a member of the Westboro Baptist Church?


  • #75
    Frank Garrett
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 226 ✭✭Frank Garrett


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    Exactly. The pope sits on a golden thrown preaching about vows of poverty

    The throne isn't even made from gold. Do your homework first.


  • #76
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Frank Garrett wrote: »
    The throne isn't even made from gold. Do your homework first.
    Not only is the throne not made form gold, the Pope doesn't even use it.


  • #77
    TheMza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭TheMza


    wprathead wrote: »
    The Satanists had an even better idea

    Hahaha, that is absolutely brilliant :) Lets hope it worked!


  • #78
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Frank Garrett wrote: »
    The throne isn't even made from gold. Do your homework first.

    Ohhhh did I piss off the pope? As if anyone should care


  • #79
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    Ohhhh did I piss off the pope? As if anyone should care
    Don't be so juvenile.


  • #80
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Don't be so juvenile.

    It's the more the fact that you'd swear he's in rags. The Vatican is absolutely minted, the palace there is proof enough of it


  • #81
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Something good would have been putting his hand in his pocket and making a discreet donation like what most of us did, but I suppose there is no publicity to be garnered from doing that.


    Since when did speeding on a public road become something good??


    Must have missed that memo.

    I'm pretty sure that setting up a charity which has raised millions will do far more to help than a one off donation. The man has left a great legacy behind him and has done more to change the world in a positive manner than you ever have. He never courted celebrity or used charity to raise his profile which is a lot more than can be said about many others


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  • #82
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    It's the more the fact that you'd swear he's in rags. The Vatican is absolutely minted, the palace there is proof enough of it
    Wealthy in terms of gold and artefacts yes but I doubt they have much in the way of cash.

    So what any way? Christianity doesn't preach forced repatriation of wealth, each person makes that decision based on their own morals. Besides do you want to see the countless Vatican treasures in the hands of private collectors?


  • #83
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Wealthy in terms of gold and artefacts yes but I doubt they have much in the way of cash.

    So what any way? Christianity doesn't preach forced repatriation of wealth, each person makes that decision based on their own morals. Besides do you want to see the countless Vatican treasures in the hands of private collectors?
    I'm not talking about artefacts.
    It's a business that doesn't get taxed. Yes, they are exceedingly wealthy.

    Vatican bank holds $8.2 billion


  • #84
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    I'm not talking about artefacts.
    It's a business that doesn't get taxed. Yes, they are exceedingly wealthy.

    Vatican bank holds $8.2 billion


    why isn't that money going to charity ?


  • #85
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    old hippy wrote: »
    Are you a member of the Westboro Baptist Church?

    Less of the personal questions if you don't mind.


  • #86
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    why isn't that money going to charity ?

    Suppose they actually do like their money after all


  • #87
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    I'm not talking about artefacts.
    It's a business that doesn't get taxed. Yes, they are exceedingly wealthy.

    Vatican bank holds $8.2 billion
    You ignored the central point of my post "Christianity doesn't preach forced repatriation of wealth, each person makes that decision based on their own morals."

    It's a bank. The church receives billions in donations every year but they also have thousands of employees to pay and the largest land portfolio in the world to manage. Have you forgotten the Holy See is a country?


  • #88
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    You ignored the central point of my post "Christianity doesn't preach forced repatriation of wealth, each person makes that decision based on their own morals."

    It's a bank. The church receives billions in donations every year but they also have thousands of employees to pay and the largest land portfolio in the world to manage. Have you forgotten the Holy See is a country?

    Pretty sure the original point was countering the posts suggesting that Paul Walker is a bad guy for being rich and giving to charity.

    I think the church is fine (in this regard) as is Paul Walker. Each should give what they want, frequently celebrity figureheads help charities, that is why charities use them and there is no harm in that. None of this means that the celebrity should live homeless. Plenty of people give to charity without bankrupting themselves.


  • #89
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Less of the personal questions if you don't mind.

    Less of the nasty remarks about a dead person, if you don't mind.


  • #90
    WilyCoyote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518431/Paul-Walkers-charity-work-Tinseltown-tsunami-zone.html


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  • #91
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    TheMza wrote: »
    Hahaha, that is absolutely brilliant :) Lets hope it worked!

    Ah yes lets go after a person who was never a member of the WBC and dies when the founder was 5


  • #92
    Hoop66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Ah yes lets go after a person who was never a member of the WBC and dies when the founder was 5

    Well she's not going to care, she's dead. Y'know, immune to anything the living world can throw at her?

    And Mr Phelps? Mr Phelps can go fúck himself.


  • #93
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,294 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    people who acknowledge the WBC are as bad as them...just let them die and ignore them


  • #94
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    Well she's not going to care, she's dead. Y'know, immune to anything the living world can throw at her?

    And Mr Phelps? Mr Phelps can go fúck himself.

    So what if she dead? She had no involvement with the WBC so why do this on her grave?


  • #95
    Hoop66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    I get your point, but I'm struggling to care.

    I'm assuming that the reason for doing it on her grave is to annoy and embarrass her son.


  • #96
    Killer Wench
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    Forget about Walker.

    They have a bigger fish now!

    http://news.iafrica.com/worldnews/890192.html


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  • #97
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    people who acknowledge the WBC are as bad as them
    They... are?
    just let them die and ignore them
    Agreed, but it doesn't make the people who take notice of them "as bad as" them. Come on!


  • #98
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Killer Wench wrote: »
    Forget about Walker.

    They have a bigger fish now!

    http://news.iafrica.com/worldnews/890192.html

    I loved this comment

    The most amazing thing is the Madiba would forgive them, which is proof if proof was needed that he is a better man than me, because I can't find if in me to forgive them!


    • #99
      Femme_Fatale
      Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


      Forgiving people who have deliberately hurt you and haven't even apologised, is being a pushover.


    • #100
      woodoo
      Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


      I hope they do go to south africa and go back to the US in a box.


    • #101
      Zed Bank
      Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


      I would have no problem lining them up, executing all of them, then blow up their so called "church". I would then proceed to bury them in unmarked graves in rainbow covered coffins with a pink triangle on the front. Bloody cult.


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