I need feminism because...

Morag · 28-11-2013 01:55PM

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/colette-browne/would-you-walk-out-of-mass-if-a-priest-prayed-for-a-sex-attacker-29787078.html

aaabbbb · 01-12-2013 12:42AM

I need feminism because I'd rather not have to walk through college and be handed this :

Das Kitty · 01-12-2013 05:41AM

aaabbbb wrote: »

I need feminism because I'd rather not have to walk through college and be handed this :

Wow! That's crying out for a parody.

aaabbbb · 01-12-2013 05:58AM

Das Kitty wrote: »

Wow! That's crying out for a parody.

Indeed !

Quite possibly in a full blown broadway musical style too just for the heck of it !!

iwantmydinner · 01-12-2013 10:29AM

Saw one of those lists on Twitter as well. Ugh. Who was handing them out?

01-12-2013 10:49AM

my unbroken skin is a virtue
hurray
:rolleyes:

YumCha · 01-12-2013 05:09PM

This story about a woman having her child taken from her via forced C-section is just so depressing:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10486452/Child-taken-from-womb-by-social-services.html

I need feminism for this, and also for the inevitable whataboutery that will surely jump in regarding her mental health.

Lucyfur · 01-12-2013 07:45PM

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Tigger99 · 01-12-2013 07:48PM

I'm really in two minds about that Yumcha. On the one hand it sounds horrific and On the other hand what if there was serious risk?

On the face of it it just seems so barbaric.

BonsaiKitten · 01-12-2013 10:38PM

I kind of feel the same about it Tigger, but on the other hand I'm sure there's something we haven't heard about the story.
Or at least, I really hope so, in a strange kind of way.

YumCha · 01-12-2013 10:57PM

With the facts as they stand, I'd put the people forcibly sedating and performing forced surgery on a pregnant woman to remove a child from her womb - without talking to her family, or doctors, or seeming to have any general understanding of her general health history as the bigger threat here.

BonsaiKitten · 01-12-2013 11:12PM

There's something very weird about the whole story. Well...many things weird about it.
Like I said, I'm holding off on passing judgement on it for a few days until more details come out. I just get the feeling there's something missing from it, no idea what it could be but it feels incomplete.

Femme_Fatale · 01-12-2013 11:56PM

YumCha wrote: »

This story about a woman having her child taken from her via forced C-section is just so depressing:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10486452/Child-taken-from-womb-by-social-services.html

I need feminism for this, and also for the inevitable whataboutery that will surely jump in regarding her mental health.

It's not whataboutery seeing as that very factor led to the decision.

It's horrific but at the same time, seeing as UK social and mental health services are extremely strictly bound, it's kinda annoying me the way people seem to be making out that this woman was just made to suffer and be punished, as if she was in Saudi Arabia or somewhere. I don't believe this was taken lightly or that there wasn't what was deemed a good reason for it.

Carlos Orange · 02-12-2013 10:12AM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I don't believe this was taken lightly or that there wasn't what was deemed a good reason for it.

"Lawyers for the woman are demanding to know why Essex social services appear not have contacted next of kin in Italy to consult them on the case."

Things that happen to people with mental health issues can be very disturbing since it can entail taking away the assumption that people get to make decisions about how their life is run but I do find it disturbing that her family were not contacted. If she is permanently or periodically unable to take care of her child it would be much better to have a family member take care of it.

DMR1861 · 02-12-2013 02:09PM

aaabbbb wrote: »

I need feminism because I'd rather not have to walk through college and be handed this :

Whats wrong with that? They seem like good values for a person to have.

Femme_Fatale · 02-12-2013 10:17PM

aaabbbb wrote: »

I need feminism because I'd rather not have to walk through college and be handed this :

Some of it is fairly benign - even kinda useful advice (if expressed in a more subtle, less god-bothering way) but the rest of it made me lol. :pac:

YumCha · 24-01-2014 08:53PM

Doctor pays 10k to avoid conviction for attacks on girlfriend

iwantmydinner · 24-01-2014 09:45PM

I...I don't even know where to begin with that^

YumCha · 04-02-2014 08:07AM

Garda who sexually assaulted colleague walks free from court (and has name struck off sexual offenders register)

04-02-2014 09:38AM

YumCha wrote: »

Garda who sexually assaulted colleague walks free from court (and has name struck off sexual offenders register)

Words fail.

B0jangles · 04-02-2014 09:55AM

Candie wrote: »

Words fail.

Unbelievable

Sorry, realistically it's all too bloody believable

These 2 quotes really got to me:

""He was obsessed with talking about sex all the time. He was constantly making sexual innuendos."He repeatedly called the woman 'Big Mamma', said the judge, offering on several occasions to have sex with her.
Despite being told by other male colleagues of the effects of his comments, Corby had said: "F*** them, they are well able for it".

versus

"The judge said Corby's behaviour was "terribly, terribly wrong" but that the probation report had shown a certain amount of remorse."
(bolding mine)

So he made work hell for his female colleagues but he might possibly be feeling a bit bad about it after undergoing therapy.

Edit: Oh he's suspended on 75% pay - how he must be suffering.

nokia69 · 04-02-2014 09:09PM

B0jangles wrote: »

Unbelievable

Sorry, realistically it's all too bloody believable

These 2 quotes really got to me:

""He was obsessed with talking about sex all the time. He was constantly making sexual innuendos."He repeatedly called the woman 'Big Mamma', said the judge, offering on several occasions to have sex with her.
Despite being told by other male colleagues of the effects of his comments, Corby had said: "F*** them, they are well able for it".

versus

"The judge said Corby's behaviour was "terribly, terribly wrong" but that the probation report had shown a certain amount of remorse."
(bolding mine)

So he made work hell for his female colleagues but he might possibly be feeling a bit bad about it after undergoing therapy.

Edit: Oh he's suspended on 75% pay - how he must be suffering.

do you really think he deserves to go on the sex offenders register

04-02-2014 09:12PM

nokia69 wrote: »

do you really think he deserves to go on the sex offenders register

He's a convicted sex offender. He was automatically added to the offenders register and the judge ordered his name taken off.

He deserved to be on it.

nokia69 · 04-02-2014 09:23PM

Candie wrote: »

He's a convicted sex offender. He was automatically added to the offenders register and the judge ordered his name taken off.

He deserved to be on it.

well a judge disagrees

the sex offenders register should only be for very serious crimes like rape, pedophilia ect

if you think the clown in this case is as bad as the likes of larry murphy then I hope we never see any feminist judges on the bench in this country

iwantmydinner · 04-02-2014 09:42PM

nokia69 wrote: »

the sex offenders register should only be for very serious crimes like rape, pedophilia ect

What qualifies you to decide this?

B0jangles · 04-02-2014 09:43PM

Because there is no such thing as a scale of severity when it comes to crime; you're either Larry Murphy or a misjudged saint.

Yup.

nokia69 · 04-02-2014 09:57PM

B0jangles wrote: »

Because there is no such thing as a scale of severity when it comes to crime; you're either Larry Murphy or a misjudged saint.

Yup.

as far as the sex offenders register works thats the way it is, its just a list of names, there is no scale, and I bet that's the reason the judge took his name off it

I never said the man was misjudged, I'm just saying he is not as bad as a rapist or a child abuser

Femme_Fatale · 04-02-2014 09:59PM

nokia69 wrote: »

if you think the clown in this case is as bad as the likes of larry murphy

Yeh because everyone said exactly that...

then I hope we never see any feminist judges on the bench in this country

But any excuse to whinge about feminists I guess, even if completely illogical.
One person's view, that you've distorted = the view of all feminist judges...

nokia69 · 04-02-2014 10:00PM

iwantmydinner wrote: »

What qualifies you to decide this?

nothing, its just my opnion

but it looks like the judge agrees with me

ask a few people, I bet my view is common enough

I don't like what the man did, I think he is a total asshole but he is not as bad as a rapist or a nonce

B0jangles · 04-02-2014 10:03PM

Did anyone say he was as bad as a rapist or a child abuser?

No.

He was convicted on multiple charges of sustained sexual harrassment which automatically put him on the register of Sex Offenders. The only criteria that say his offence was not serious enough to warrant his inclusion there are the ones you've arbitrarily decided upon here.

Going by the way the sentencing has been reported on today, I'd say the general consensus is that he got off extremely lightly.

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