Things about places you've worked at that they don't want the general public to know

DazMarz · 12-11-2013 01:12PM

The one thing that Ryanair and all other low-fare airlines will NOT skimp on is safety. Yeah, the planes might be uncomfortable and cattle being led up the ramp to the slaughterhouse might get treated better, but Ryanair's planes are the safest ones in the sky.

Why?

Well, look at it this way. If there ever is an incident or a crash involving a Ryanair flight (even if it was a human error and nothing mechanical or due to a lack of safety precautions), what would happen? The general public would largely think "Oh Christ. The cheap bastards obviously skimped on safety and it crashed. I'm never flying with them again!"

It would be a PR disaster of historic proportions and they could easily end up suffering far more than a "normal" airline would. While I may not like Ryanair's policies, the planes or whatever else, I do feel safe on their planes. The company simply could not afford to have any question about their safety called in. People grumble and complain about Ryanair enough as it is. But people still use them. A lot.

If people thought that their planes were not up to scratch in terms of safety, forget it. People will still fly with them despite the no-frills approach. But if people get an inkling that they might hurtle into the Irish Sea at 500 miles per hour because the plane was ready to fall apart, I think they'd see their customer numbers dropping. Like a stone.

Penny Dreadful · 12-11-2013 01:23PM

DazMarz wrote: »

The one thing that Ryanair and all other low-fare airlines will NOT skimp on is safety. Yeah, the planes might be uncomfortable and cattle being led up the ramp to the slaughterhouse might get treated better, but Ryanair's planes are the safest ones in the sky.

Why?

Well, look at it this way. If there ever is an incident or a crash involving a Ryanair flight (even if it was a human error and nothing mechanical or due to a lack of safety precautions), what would happen? The general public would largely think "Oh Christ. The cheap bastards obviously skimped on safety and it crashed. I'm never flying with them again!"

It would be a PR disaster of historic proportions and they could easily end up suffering far more than a "normal" airline would. While I may not like Ryanair's policies, the planes or whatever else, I do feel safe on their planes. The company simply could not afford to have any question about their safety called in. People grumble and complain about Ryanair enough as it is. But people still use them. A lot.

If people thought that their planes were not up to scratch in terms of safety, forget it. People will still fly with them despite the no-frills approach. But if people get an inkling that they might hurtle into the Irish Sea at 500 miles per hour because the plane was ready to fall apart, I think they'd see their customer numbers dropping. Like a stone.[/QUOTE]

.....into the Irish Sea;)

stimpson · 12-11-2013 01:31PM

murphym7 wrote: »

Yes I am with RSA - Yes my policy renewal went up. BY 85%:eek:

Have gotten quotes from almost everyone else for 80% - 85% less. Including 123.ie's own public site using a different name.

Don't bother using a different name - I was with RSA through Tescos and had the same 80% jump in premium. 123 came in at my old premium and I went with that. Happy days.

Legs.Eleven · 12-11-2013 04:37PM

Bogger Prince wrote: »

Which wan was dat? Was the man ok after?

Ah god love you!

Bogger Prince · 12-11-2013 08:09PM

Legs.Eleven wrote: »

Ah god love you!

Wat?

Fred Swanson · 12-11-2013 09:51PM

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Lux23 · 12-11-2013 09:53PM

Shout Dust wrote: »

I worked in a bar where the vodka in was always watered down or replaced with Tesco vodka. Another thing that used to be done was fill up the old pint bottles of Bulmers with cider from the tap, then stick a lid back over it and sell it as new.

There's a pub in Dublin that makes a big deal about selling quality craft beers, but they refill the glass coke bottles with Splash cola. Really annoys me and it's that kinda of scabbiness that drives mad about businesses.

Actually in fairness, it's very common in a lot of pubs.

Bogger Prince · 12-11-2013 10:21PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

The proprietor claimed that no harm became of him.

I didnt see this either in the news or on the nuacht

basamin · 12-11-2013 10:40PM

Bogger Prince wrote: »

I didnt see this either in the news or on the nuacht

please stop with these replies - you're embarrassing yourself:p

jonnny68 · 12-11-2013 10:41PM

A leading Irish mobile operator will offer you an early upgrade if you complain about the pricing and mention you might be cancelling and porting your number over to another network, they also have a ranking system for customers from bronze to super platinum based on spend etc ;-)

IvaBigWun · 12-11-2013 10:44PM

jonnny68 wrote: »

A leading Irish mobile operator will offer you an early upgrade if you complain about the pricing and mention you might be cancelling and porting your number over to another network, they also have a ranking system for customers from bronze to super platinum based on spend etc ;-)

Oh do hint at more please

loveBBhate · 12-11-2013 10:49PM

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Oh do hint at more please

I can't say who exactly but if planet earth were to be hit by a giant METEOR you'd better hope to have a bomb shelter at least THREE metres deep and have access to enough O2 to insure your survival. Make sure to shop for supplies in TESCO too. Otherwise VODAFONE's slogan 'make the most of now' will be pretty much pointless.

Bogger Prince · 12-11-2013 10:53PM

basamin wrote: »

please stop with these replies - you're embarrassing yourself:p

Wat are you talking about?

Grayson · 12-11-2013 10:59PM

loveBBhate wrote: »

I can't say who exactly but if planet earth were to be hit by a giant METEOR you'd better hope to have a bomb shelter at least THREE metres deep and have access to enough O2 to insure your survival. Make sure to shop for supplies in TESCO too. Otherwise VODAFONE's slogan 'make the most of now' will be pretty much pointless.

As far as I'm aware all of them will do that. I know of one and if you call and say you are cancelling your contract they say you'll be transferred to their cancellation department. Internally the team is called retention and their job is to stop you going. There are limits though. You can't be one month into a 12 month contract. But if you have 2 months left they'll offer you an early upgrade or lower tariff if you renew the contract.

Shane-KornSpace · 12-11-2013 11:37PM

A well known furniture company that closed down a few months ago and re-opened under a new name ccc, are owned by the same people and are still selling the exact same ****e made by the exact same ****e suppliers who don't have any quality control. They were also replacing peoples' damaged goods with customer returns.

A well known curtain company: They produce their most expensive curtains (about €300) for around €5 a pop. Don't believe them if they say there's no room for haggling

weetiepie · 12-11-2013 11:39PM

lkionm wrote: »

This thread has great potential.

Worked in a coffee shop in Limerick recently for 2 weeks while finding a job, they like to appear fancy but are just arrogant gowls.

They would re use any clean looking napkins, re use the burnt milk, keep tea that a customer didnt want to the side and heat it up with the steam arm, Mircowave the sausages and bacon, touch scones with their hands, drink and eat around the food they were preparing, didnt keep the mayo cold, so was sitting in the warm all day long; the mayo around the side had started to go that cream colour and go hard by 11. used to freeze glasses in the freezer as well, hopefully one smashes everywhere one day.

They did all this and proabably more, was only there 2 weeks, but they used to give out when I didnt put the spoon to the right hand side of the cup and when I didnt polish the cutlery properly, so they went to all this effort of presentation and then dipped their finger in the soup to see if it was hot enough. Mental.

Would love to know the name of this place!!

IvaBigWun · 14-11-2013 12:43AM

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

Yep, thats true and there are many other sticks you can beat them with too. However, the cleanliness is exceptional. Give me a dirty Supermacs any day though

So that way you're getting terrible food in unhygienic surroundings?

ArnoldJRimmer · 14-11-2013 12:48AM

IvaBigWun wrote: »

So that way you're getting terrible food in unhygienic surroundings?

Tasty and tempting food in less hygienic surroundings than McDonalds. Supermacs is the business

Heisenberg1 · 14-11-2013 01:46AM

NuckingFacker wrote: »

McDonalds restaurants are really clean and fussy as fcuk about their supply lines and the ingredients/suppliers they use. I have no idea why they don't bang on about that more to the general public.

I've heard this too McDonalds will only buy the finest diseased chickens and only the best quality eyelids and ballbags for there 100% beef burgers.

Ihatecuddles · 14-11-2013 01:54AM

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

I've heard this too McDonalds will only buy the finest diseased chickens and only the best quality eyelids and ballbags for there 100% beef burgers.

mmmm thats good ballbag!!

errlloyd · 14-11-2013 02:53AM

DazMarz wrote: »

The one thing that Ryanair and all other low-fare airlines will NOT skimp on is safety. Yeah, the planes might be uncomfortable and cattle being led up the ramp to the slaughterhouse might get treated better, but Ryanair's planes are the safest ones in the sky.

Why?

Well, look at it this way. If there ever is an incident or a crash involving a Ryanair flight (even if it was a human error and nothing mechanical or due to a lack of safety precautions), what would happen? The general public would largely think "Oh Christ. The cheap bastards obviously skimped on safety and it crashed. I'm never flying with them again!"

It would be a PR disaster of historic proportions and they could easily end up suffering far more than a "normal" airline would. While I may not like Ryanair's policies, the planes or whatever else, I do feel safe on their planes. The company simply could not afford to have any question about their safety called in. People grumble and complain about Ryanair enough as it is. But people still use them. A lot.

If people thought that their planes were not up to scratch in terms of safety, forget it. People will still fly with them despite the no-frills approach. But if people get an inkling that they might hurtle into the Irish Sea at 500 miles per hour because the plane was ready to fall apart, I think they'd see their customer numbers dropping. Like a stone.

The main reason Ryanair planes are safe is because they're all really new. They fly them up until their due the first major service, and then they sell them on. They never bother refitting and re-servicing because its too expensive.

piplin · 14-11-2013 03:01AM

Chemical plant in Shannon where they pour tens of thousands of litres of chemical waste directly down the drain. I don't think it's legal.

lkionm · 14-11-2013 03:27AM

weetiepie wrote: »

Would love to know the name of this place!!

Lets just say they try their best to have a great perception of the place.

The smell of the place is quite nice.

Forgot to add, they gave out to me because the spoon had to be on the right side of the cup.

wildlifeboy · 14-11-2013 09:33AM

piplin wrote: »

Chemical plant in Shannon where they pour tens of thousands of litres of chemical waste directly down the drain. I don't think it's legal.

It is very illegal, name and shame. pricks

irish_goat · 14-11-2013 09:38AM

errlloyd wrote: »

The main reason Ryanair planes are safe is because they're all really new. They fly them up until their due the first major service, and then they sell them on. They never bother refitting and re-servicing because its too expensive.

That's not the main reason. If it was cheaper to just buy new planes everytime why wouldn't every airline do it?

BattleCorp · 14-11-2013 10:10AM

loveBBhate wrote: »

Something like the ends of pints patrons don't finish are thrown back in to one after collection or something, I think, heard something along the lines of this before?!

This was ages ago when I worked in a local pub. The slops weren't served to customers. You couldn't do that, your business would be gone in no time.

What used to happen is that brand x slops went into a bucket marked brand x, brand y slops went into a bucket marked brand y and so on.

Then an empty barrel of brand x would be opened and the slops poured back into the barrel. When this barrel was full, it would be returned to the supplier with a complaint that the barrel was bad/flat or whatever.

So yes, the slops were put back into a barrel but the customer never got them. It was the supplier who was shafted.

irish_goat · 14-11-2013 10:18AM

I've never personally seen it done but an old manager once told me he did the "slops" keg trick at a student's union bar.

They'd fill an old keg with slops and then if you ordered a Guinness you would get your pint filled initially from the regular tap and then it would be topped up from the slops tap. He went as far to describe to me what equipment they needed to stick together in order to allow them to refill the keg so I don't think he was bull****ting.

Frynge · 14-11-2013 10:55AM

irish_goat wrote: »

I've never personally seen it done but an old manager once told me he did the "slops" keg trick at a student's union bar.

They'd fill an old keg with slops and then if you ordered a Guinness you would get your pint filled initially from the regular tap and then it would be topped up from the slops tap. He went as far to describe to me what equipment they needed to stick together in order to allow them to refill the keg so I don't think he was bull****ting.

I can assure you he was bulls8itting.

Assuming a wastage of 10% which would be astronomically high, you would be talking ten kegs of beer just to fill one with slops so it could be sold again. With the amount of oxidation the beer would go trough by simply leaving the keg before being returned to another unpresurrised keg means it would be soured in a matter of hours. People would be getting ill within hours of drinking the stuff.

Also for a pub to be in a position to do such a think with the possiblilty of it not being noticed they would already be incredibly busy, to the tune of €15000 a night (conservative estimate). It would make far more economical sense to just reduce the the amount of wastage in the first place.

There was a time when there was a slop keg but this was purely to be returned to the brewery for credit.

Also filling a pint bottle of bulmers from the draught tap I have heard of before but the reason was to not admit that they had run out of it. The draught and pint bottles are the same price to within 3c.

Shut the front door · 14-11-2013 11:10AM

Paid €8.65ph (fully qualified with experience) to work in a crèche, often over numbers, no cover staff. Cleaning of the crèche was down to the girls, mopping the floors before or after shifts, same with cleaning windows and walls and toilets coz the owner was too cheap to pay for a cleaner to come in or on busy days let the kids watch a DVD on the mat while you cleaned around them. Some owners were total dragons, they hadn't a clue weren't qualified and the way they treated the girls was beyond belief. The recent issues of some places did not come as a shock to many working in childcare, loads of girls I worked with worked for other places and you heard many stories lots of them from girls who worked for the same place at different times and the story was the same. Staff treated like crap, doing their best with little resources and for very little pay.
Worked for other places though that were great but still some that were total sh**e

irish_goat · 14-11-2013 11:42AM

Frynge wrote: »

I can assure you he was bulls8itting.

Assuming a wastage of 10% which would be astronomically high, you would be talking ten kegs of beer just to fill one with slops so it could be sold again. With the amount of oxidation the beer would go trough by simply leaving the keg before being returned to another unpresurrised keg means it would be soured in a matter of hours. People would be getting ill within hours of drinking the stuff.

Also for a pub to be in a position to do such a think with the possiblilty of it not being noticed they would already be incredibly busy, to the tune of €15000 a night (conservative estimate). It would make far more economical sense to just reduce the the amount of wastage in the first place.

They wouldn't necessarily need to fill the slops keg, just add whatever was wasted the day before. Student's union have loads of busy nights as well with plenty of crap staff who waste a lot. Sourness would not make anyone ill either, there are plenty of sour and oxidised beers on the market. I'm not 100% confident it happened but I don't think your reasons disprove it.

Breweries have copped on to the returning a slops keg now as well and take them away for testing. Assumingly they check for beer that shouldn't be in there e.g. lager in a keg of stout. We got accused once of tampering with a keg of Carlsberg once and Diageo said they weren't refunding it. The boss rang them up and said "that's grand, don't bother delivering any more of it". :pac:

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