The Academies

JagerScout · 07-08-2013 09:32PM

Stanza2 wrote: »

Does that mean Sub Academy or full?

full.

Stanza2 · 07-08-2013 09:50PM

Well done to Tom. Great opportunity for him.

turtleshead · 08-08-2013 08:40AM

See Bernard Jackman posting a tweet last night saying Shane O'Leary looks the real deal so far link:

https://mobile.twitter.com/bernardjackman/status/365138284504035329?p=p

You have to wonder why he wasnt ever offered a munster academy contract even a sub-academy contract.

the perfect ten · 08-08-2013 09:05AM

turtleshead wrote: »

See Bernard Jackman posting a tweet last night saying Shane O'Leary looks the real deal so far link:

https://mobile.twitter.com/bernardjackman/status/365138284504035329?p=p

You have to wonder why he wasnt ever offered a munster academy contract even a sub-academy contract.

I think there are now 8 young Irish players at academies in French clubs this season - it will be interesting to see how they all develop.

lurtz · 08-08-2013 10:02AM

https://soundcloud.com/stmc_rugby/rory-kavanagh-interview-4-8

interview with rory kavanagh over in auch

CGD · 08-08-2013 11:06AM

the perfect ten wrote: »

I think there are now 8 young Irish players at academies in French clubs this season - it will be interesting to see how they all develop.

Hopefully they will all make it but other than the odd one maybe two very few will play at a higher level than the Irish sides. It is great to see lads sprouting their wings as the oppurtunites in Ireland are restricted to a select few. If you are young and free a spot in a foreign academy is better than scratching at home

RobbieRuns · 08-08-2013 11:31AM

I think that it is great to see and fair play to them all.

iamjenko · 10-08-2013 01:52PM

Would be interesting to see if any of them get the offer of a France cap down the line....

backgreen · 10-08-2013 02:14PM

iamjenko wrote: »

Would be interesting to see if any of them get the offer of a France cap down the line....

if O'Leary makes it and potentially he has the game,you could see a lot of french scouts over here...

lurtz · 12-09-2013 09:49PM

brewer training with leinster academy

Mahatma Geansai · 12-09-2013 09:53PM

lurtz wrote: »

brewer training with leinster academy

Would that not just mean that he is in the Leinster sub-academy? He's finished school now isn't he?

lurtz · 12-09-2013 09:57PM

not necessarily. Hes been involved in sessions with just academy players,so whatever that means

Tox56 · 12-09-2013 09:59PM

Supposedly he was injured for a while, it's not unheard of for players to join the academy mid-season (Adam Byrne last year). He'll probably be added next season anyway so it doesn't make a massive difference either way

student1990 · 08-10-2013 09:12PM

Connacht 1st year academy player profiles updated:

Jacob Walshe(5'11, 103kg)
Saba Meunargia(6'0, 116kg)
Sean O'Brien(6'4, 107kg)
Conor Kindregan(6'4, 115kg)
James Connolly(6'1, 94kg)
Rory Moloney(6'1, 92kg)
Rory Parata(5'11, 86kg)
David Panter(5'11, 90kg)

The Lost Sheep · 06-11-2013 05:26PM

3 more players added to Munster academy
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/12480.php
3 additions to the Academy
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/12480.php
Rory Burke(prop) school Christian Brothers College and plays his club rugby for Cork Con.
last season played for the Munster Under 19s and played with the Under 20s this season
Has represented Ireland at Under 19 level and he is in the Irish under 20 squad this season

Niall Kenneally(centre) trained with the Munster squad during pre-season and played v Gloucester in pre-season game in August. School in Sligo now playing with Cork Con having moved from UL Bohs where he had been playing last season

Alex Wootton (winger) played for Ireland at the Under 20 World Championship last summer. From Stockport and a former Northampton Saints academy member, he currently is playing with Garryowen

Fireball07 · 06-11-2013 05:49PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

3 more players added to Munster academy
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/12480.php
3 additions to the Academy
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/12480.php
Rory Burke(prop) school Christian Brothers College and plays his club rugby for Cork Con.
last season played for the Munster Under 19s and played with the Under 20s this season
Has represented Ireland at Under 19 level and he is in the Irish under 20 squad this season

Niall Kenneally(centre) trained with the Munster squad during pre-season and played v Gloucester in pre-season game in August. School in Sligo now playing with Cork Con having moved from UL Bohs where he had been playing last season

Alex Wootton (winger) played for Ireland at the Under 20 World Championship last summer. From Stockport and a former Northampton Saints academy member, he currently is playing with Garryowen

How much do you rate them?

I think I saw a bit of Wootton, didn't really stand out for me for Ireland. What ages are the others?

jm08 · 06-11-2013 06:28PM

Fireball07 wrote: »

How much do you rate them?

I think I saw a bit of Wootton, didn't really stand out for me for Ireland. What ages are the others?

Burke is playing U20s this season (so he must be 19 or 20).

Niall Kenneally is 21.

niallerm · 06-11-2013 06:30PM

Wooten and Burke turn 20 in 2014.

The Lost Sheep · 06-11-2013 06:56PM

Fireball07 wrote: »

How much do you rate them?

I think I saw a bit of Wootton, didn't really stand out for me for Ireland. What ages are the others?

Burke real good throughout time underage and a limited push in scrum yet to really see him in full scrums. Outside set piece work is good.
Wootton is good player. yet to really see him play apart from 20s world cup where he wasn't a stand out.

jm08 wrote: »

Burke is playing U20s this season (so he must be 19 or 20).

Niall Kenneally is 21.

Burke and Wootton are u20s this season so will not turn 20 until sometime in 2014.

hype101 · 06-11-2013 06:58PM

niallerm wrote: »

Wooten and Burke turn 20 in 2014.

Ya, I could be wrong but I think Wotton is eligible for IR u20s this year

The Lost Sheep · 06-11-2013 07:02PM

hype101 wrote: »

Ya, I could be wrong but I think Wotton is eligible for IR u20s this year

He is and to be eligible for Ireland under 20s this season you have to be born after 1/1/94 therefore my original post is correct

niallerm · 06-11-2013 08:20PM

connacht added a few players recently too i think..

The Lost Sheep · 06-11-2013 08:57PM

niallerm wrote: »

connacht added a few players recently too i think..

They did.
Caolin Blade scrum half, from Monivea now with Galwegians
Eoghan Masterson back row, from Portlaoise

2013/14 CONNACHT ACADEMY LIST:

YEAR 3 -
Jack Carty (Out-half)
Conor Finn (Centre)
Shane Layden (Back-three)
Tadhg Leader (Centre)
YEAR 2 -
Finlay Bealham (Loosehead prop)
Ultan Dillane (Lock)
Darragh Leader (Back-three)
Steve Macauley (Back-three)
Peter Reilly (Tighthead prop)
Marcus Walsh (Scrum half)

YEAR 1 -
Caolin Blade (Scrum half)
James Connolly (Back rower)
Conor Kindregan (Lock)
Eoghan Masterson (Back rower)
Saba Meunargia (Tighthead prop)
Rory Moloney (Back rower)
Sean O'Brien (Back rower/Lock)
David Panter (Back-three)
Rory Parata (Centre)
Jacob Walshe (Loosehead prop)

hype101 · 06-11-2013 09:11PM

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

He is and to be eligible for Ireland under 20s this season you have to be born after 1/1/94 therefore my original post is correct

Sorry Lost Sheep I read your post a bit quick earlier

The Lost Sheep · 06-11-2013 10:41PM

Just updated GoreyGuys excellent first post with all current academy members. following recent announcements of new signings in Connacht and Munster. I have prob made a mistake or two so please post if I have
Changed one or two things. Didn't differentiate between wings and full backs they're all back 3 players...
Again colour coded as per province. Instead of Ulster players being in Yellow like in OP Ive left them in black font which is much easier to see. Players divided by position and in order of Connacht, Leinster, Ulster and then Munster players

Finlay Bealham (Loosehead Prop)
Jacob Walshe (Loosehead Prop)
Ed Byrne (Loosehead Prop)
Peter Dooley (Loosehead Prop)
Andrew Warwick (Loosehead Prop)
Bryan Byrne (Hooker)
James Tracy (Hooker)
John Andrew (Hooker)
Jonny Murphy (Hooker)
Peter Reilly (Tighthead Prop)
Saba Meunargia (Tighthead Prop)
Tadhg Furlong (Tighthead Prop)
Kyle McCall (Tighthead Prop)
Niall Horan (Loosehead/Tighthead Prop)
Ultan Dillane (Second Row)
Conor Kindregan (Second Row)
Sean O'Brien (Second Row/Back Row)
Tadhg Beirne (Second Row)
Ross Molony (Second Row)
Gavin Thornbury (Second Row)
Alan O Connor (Second Row)
James Simpson (Second Row)
John Donnan (Second Row)
John Madigan (Second Row)
Sean McCarthy (Second Row)
Darren O Shea (Second Row)
James Connolly (Back Row)
Eoghan Masterson (Back Row)
Rory Moloney (Back Row)
Jordan Coghlan (Back Row)
Conor Gilsenan (Back Row)
Dan Leavy (Back Row)
Josh Van Der Flier (Back Row)
Jack Conan (Back Row)
Conor Joyce (Back Row)
Shane Buckley (Back Row)
Ryan Murphy (Back Row)
Jack O Donoghue (Back Row)
Marcus Walsh (Scrum Half)
Caolin Blade (Scrum Half)
Luke McGrath (Scrum Half)
Dave Shanahan (Scrum Half)
Jack Cullen (Scrum Half)
Brian Haugh (Scrum Half)
Jack Carty (Out Half)
Cathal Marsh (Out Half)
Steve Crosbie (Out Half)
Johnny Holland (Out Half/Centre)
Gearoid Lyons (Out Half)
Conor Finn (Centre)
Tadhg Leader (Centre)
Rory Parata (Centre)
Tom Daly (Centre)
Tom Farrell (Centre)
Colm O Shea (Centre)
Stuart McCloskey (Centre)
Harry McNulty (Centre)
Darren Moroney (Centre)
Rory Scannell (Centre)
Darragh Leader (Back Three)
Steve Macauley (Back Three)
David Panter (Back Three)
Shane Layden (Back Three)
Adam Byrne (Back Three)
Andrew Boyle (Back Three)
Sam Coghlan Murray (Back Three)
Billy Dardis (Back Three)
Rory Scholes (Back Three)
Greg O Shea (Back Three)
Dave Johnson (Back Three)
Darren Sweetnam (Back Three)

Fireball07 · 06-11-2013 10:46PM

Think the other green was easier on the eyes :P

I thought Moroney was a winger??
And who's Dave Johnson?

The Lost Sheep · 06-11-2013 10:51PM

Fireball07 wrote: »

Think the other green was easier on the eyes :P

I thought Moroney was a winger??
And who's Dave Johnson?

This one easier to read

Moroney has played Wing, FB and in Centre In AIL, with Munster A
Dave Johnson from South Tipp, formerly of Rockwell. Now playing AIL with UL Bohs

RuPi · 07-11-2013 12:35AM

Caufield is out of the ulster academy and is away to Plymouth Albion. Strange how ulster have a much smaller academy squad than the other provinces.

RobbieRuns · 07-11-2013 05:53PM

RuPi wrote: »

Caufield is out of the ulster academy and is away to Plymouth Albion. Strange how ulster have a much smaller academy squad than the other provinces.

Quality, not quantity eh?

I think that Ulsters academy is bigger, they just have not advertised it yet. They wait until after the 20's interpros before deciding, lads like Lorcan Dow and Mark Best are in there now and maybe more.

It is also worth always pointing out that lots of Academies are linked with Universities that give scholarships and they combine their studies with academy training, maybe put them down as sub academy, but are fully integrated within the academy training. Ulster are not as low as you think they are.

niallerm · 07-11-2013 06:10PM

Taggart and Low are both involved with the Ulster academy setup anyway.. both former exiles who came over..

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