The Academies

ormond lad

JagerScout wrote: »

Interesting to note that

Sean O’Connell who was a member of the Ulster academy has left and joined the London Irish academy.

Former Munster Academy player Ian Crosse has also joined LI academy, having played rugby league for a short while, and John Quill is on a short training contract

lurtz

heard John Quill was getting a trial,probably similar to what Foster Horan was on

lurtz

Cross must be 23 or 24 at this stage?

JagerScout

lurtz wrote: »

Cross must be 23 or 24 at this stage?

24 in september.

Not Playing Tiddlywinks Vinny

Cross was over there last summer and got injured so came back to Ireland, didn't play any senior rugby last yr i don't think. Quill is savage player, dunno how he hasnt been picked up in Ireland.

JagerScout

Dave Shanahan confirmed to be joining Ulster's academy. Started up there today.

Buer

Good signing. Lively player with a snappy pass. The real block to him making it is the fact that he's very small. He's the same size as Paul Marshall, possibly has better basics though already.

lurtz

Masterson on trial with Connacht academy. Two young Leinster players reportedly going to a Pro D2 side on trial

RuPi

JagerScout wrote: »

Dave Shanahan confirmed to be joining Ulster's academy. Started up there today.

Will be interesting to see which club he is affiliated too, good signing for Ulster and I wouldn't be surprised to see him push ahead of Heaney in the pecking order.

JagerScout

RuPi wrote: »

Will be interesting to see which club he is affiliated too, good signing for Ulster and I wouldn't be surprised to see him push ahead of Heaney in the pecking order.

really? I would have thought Heaney is much further ahead of him right now.

RuPi

JagerScout wrote: »

really? I would have thought Heaney is much further ahead of him right now.

Personally don't think Heaney is that great, liable to the odd brain fart ala Marshall at times, alot of people would rate Ian Porter ahead of Heaney and with Porter getting a deal until December it could be interesting to see how things work out.

As for Shannahan he seems to have a very sound all round game with a very sharp pass and a lot of potential. Excited to see how he goes.

JagerScout

Heaney would still be a lot further along than him, would be shocked of shanahan leap frogged him this season.

JagerScout

Still no word on Thomas Farrell's future or Ulster's academy.

RuPi

You won't hear anything confirmed about the Ulster Academy until after the inter pros at the earliest.

CGD

JagerScout wrote: »

Still no word on Thomas Farrell's future or Ulster's academy.

There is and will public soon enough

JagerScout

must be abroad then...

FellasFellas

Bay of Plenty Steamers have been in contact with Harrison Brewer about playing NPC B in two years with a view to advance him to ITM in the future.

RobbieRuns

Whats NPC B?........ITM?

lurtz

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Whats NPC B?........ITM?

NPC B is the equivalent of Leinster A,the ITM Development team

schools rugby

FellasFellas wrote: »

Bay of Plenty Steamers have been in contact with Harrison Brewer about playing NPC B in two years with a view to advance him to ITM in the future.

Is this confirmed ?

jamiedav2011

That'd be a fairly strange/impatient move for him, unless he's planning on a permanent return home.

Buer

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

That'd be a fairly strange/impatient move for him, unless he's planning on a permanent return home.

Would he even consider it his home? I'm assuming the family moved when his father left NZ at which point HB couldn't have been more than 1 year old or so. He has been in Ireland for the bulk of his life.

I don't think it'd be a great move for him, to be honest. I'm sure he has family and a good network of people there to look after him there but (and I might well be wrong on this) I have the impression that the U20 or so level in NZ has plenty of superb athletes who are fast tracked when they show the required pace and power. A number of their JWC squad have already made appearances for S15 development sides.

Brewer looks good but not good enough to put himself in contention for real recognition any time soon by those standards. If he was to leave, I assume he'd be giving up his chance to play in a JWC and becoming a small fish in a big pond.

JagerScout

he is far more likely to make it in Ireland, but top athletes usually don't view their career like that.. still assuming he returns to top health and form post injury. I'd expect him to be in the Leinster academy this time next year.

Niallof9

Buer wrote: »

Would he even consider it his home? I'm assuming the family moved when his father left NZ at which point HB couldn't have been more than 1 year old or so. He has been in Ireland for the bulk of his life.

I don't think it'd be a great move for him, to be honest. I'm sure he has family and a good network of people there to look after him there but (and I might well be wrong on this) I have the impression that the U20 or so level in NZ has plenty of superb athletes who are fast tracked when they show the required pace and power. A number of their JWC squad have already made appearances for S15 development sides.

Brewer looks good but not good enough to put himself in contention for real recognition any time soon by those standards. If he was to leave, I assume he'd be giving up his chance to play in a JWC and becoming a small fish in a big pond.

Yeah absolutely stupid move unless he plans to come back after stint. He's on Irish radar, will be on the 20's soon enough. I'd say he has no chance over there to make it. I'm sure his father has connections and it helps...

but I thought Leinster should have offered him a full academy as I thought this might happen. People can say he's hyped but there is a lot of pressure for him to perform as a stand out, plus he changed positions and is still learning the role. Theres been much weaker players than him offered academy roles.

Quint2010

Niallof9 wrote: »

Yeah absolutely stupid move unless he plans to come back after stint. He's on Irish radar, will be on the 20's soon enough. I'd say he has no chance over there to make it. I'm sure his father has connections and it helps...

but I thought Leinster should have offered him a full academy as I thought this might happen. People can say he's hyped but there is a lot of pressure for him to perform as a stand out, plus he changed positions and is still learning the role. Theres been much weaker players than him offered academy roles.

I have it on fairly good authority that Brewer was not offered an academy spot for this year because he will spend a fair amount of it recovering after two operations in the last three months.

themont85

I'm pretty sure he was born in Ireland and his mother is Irish.

lurtz

O'Leary has signed with Grenoble

ormond lad

lurtz wrote: »

O'Leary has signed with Grenoble

yep. confirmed last night when he was training in Nenagh
Best of luck to him. Wonder why he didn't get a shot with Munster..

RuPi

Rumours on twitter that Jerry Sexton and Rory Kavanagh are to join Auch's academy in D2 in France

jamiedav2011

RuPi wrote: »

Rumours on twitter that Jerry Sexton and Rory Kavanagh are to join Auch's academy in D2 in France

Sexton definitely is.